MiguelMexMIstery
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All these juniors joining the day P5 was announced. You guys are so lucky.
I joined the day P4GA was announced.
I was doomed from the start.
I joined the day P4GA was announced.
I was doomed from the start.
Well, we are getting weekly english videos for P4AU.
Eh I feel like this actually describes P3 more than P4. The P4 crew all become very friendly very quickly.I don't agree with this entirely. Like, I think Kou and Daisuke's relationship, and a lot of the interactions involving Teddie and Yosuke are classic shitting between friends. The IT entirely, it's almost sitcom level on being over the top. It's because they aren't joking around is what makes these scenes so absurd and funny.
Also because the group was brought together by circumstance instead of by choice, a lot of their interactions are based on showing their lack of unity/closeness to contrast. By the end of the game they are all friends but I don't think the relationship between each of them is equal.
But the evidence is sort of in favor of what I've said. If Chie and Yosuke weren't close, how would they be calling each other and chatting it up at night?
Seems like they're biweekly, though they won't be showing off much of note or interest for me now that the game's out.
All these juniors joining the day P5 was announced. You guys are so lucky.
I joined the day P4GA was announced.
I was doomed from the start.
Didn't Chie ask him to stop that? Or was it just the dirty jokes?
...Then again, if she was sick of them, why did she still pick up in the first place? Hm...
Also because the group was brought together by circumstance instead of by choice, a lot of their interactions are based on showing their lack of unity/closeness to contrast. By the end of the game they are all friends but I don't think the relationship between each of them is equal.
Eh I feel like this actually describes P3 more than P4. The P4 crew all become very friendly very quickly.
Naoto
Openly respects: Yu
Group acquaintance: Everyone who isn't Yu.
Up until Persona 4 Arena, in which they become friends. Openly flirts with her and doesn't truly understand her until then.
I do remember their interactions were pretty friendly and caring, at least in Yosuke's story, but I think the deciding factor is the fact that Yosuke finally has Yukiko's cell number, since he didn't have it for the whole game (P4).I think your list is a really good summary of the P4 group PK. This line caught my eye though, because I don't remember anything of note happening between Yukiko and Yosuke in Arena. Who's story was that a part of? Both of theirs, one of theirs, or someone else's?
Some of the scenes in Golden where you stumble across them when you go the mall hanging out in odd pairs are amazing.
I love the one with Yukiko and Kanji. Toogood
I would say Kanji, Teddie and Yosuke have a pretty good bro relationship between them, at least a more deep one than Kanji-Rise. They endure a lot of bad moments together and spend most of the time with each other. Heck, they celebrated Christmas just between them. Otherwise that list is pretty accurate, specially the Yosuke and Yukiko relationship.
It's just that in scenarios when you coincidentally meet Kanji while doing something else, Rise is sometimes with him and vice-versa. They also arrive together often during a meet up. This is never the case with Yosuke-Kanji.
I do remember their interactions were pretty friendly and caring, at least in Yosuke's story, but I think the deciding factor is the fact that Yosuke finally has Yukiko's cell number, since he didn't have it for the whole game (P4).
Ah, I guess I just forgot that Yosuke finally got her number. Good for him, making the big leagues. Thanks!
It'll be interesting to see what kind of group dynamics there'll be in P5, whether it's a bit friendlier like P4 or maybe a bit more awkward like P3. Hopefully they'll have a lot of scenes similar to the one Jintor mentioned, with odd pairings doing things.
Well, they are in the same class and both of their relatives' shop are pretty close.. And I don't think them arriving together > guys doing stuff like assaulting the girls' room togetherIt's just that in scenarios when you coincidentally meet Kanji while doing something else, Rise is sometimes with him and vice-versa. They also arrive together often during a meet up. This is never the case with Yosuke-Kanji.
Well, they are in the same class and both of their relatives' shop are pretty close.. And I don't think them arriving together > guys doing stuff like assaulting the girls' room together
I would like to see it like P4, as much as I preferred P3's story, (yes you read that right), the characters felt very disjointed among one another.
I would say Kanji, Teddie and Yosuke have a pretty good bro relationship between them, at least a more deep one than Kanji-Rise. They endure a lot of bad moments together and spend most of the time with each other. Heck, they celebrated Christmas just between them. Otherwise that list is pretty accurate, specially the Yosuke and Yukiko relationship.
I think your list is a really good summary of the P4 group PK. This line caught my eye though, because I don't remember anything of note happening between Yukiko and Yosuke in Arena. Who's story was that a part of? Both of theirs, one of theirs, or someone else's?
Ain't nothing wrong with that.
I could personally go either way. The P4 approach did make them seem tighter as a group, but I found their interactions with each other a little less interesting as a result. The conflict and awkwardness amongst S.E.E.S. was pretty interesting, and made the pay off of them becoming (closer to being) friends with each other more worthwhile.
Just my opinion obviously.
Hmm. I'm still not really convinced. Yosuke and Teddie bring the wild side of Kanji by teasing him to do stuff somehow, they all do all those whacky and stupid plans together. I could also say that Kanji and Rise being seen together often doesn't equal to being close or having a friendship, but then you could say about that NPC that comments she thinks they're dating, but eh, I think the reason of that is because Kanji and Rise know each other outside of school and probably don't have other friends to hang out with during class, as when the "After School" segment starts they inmediantly go back to see Yu and their other senpais.Granted, I am not really that well-versed about guy-bonding and stuff, but you could totally do weird and stupid things together without actually be all that close. It's all about the heat of the moment.
Hmm, I can see your poin there, but most of that is in the beginning of the game, where Yosuke's pretty much scared of Kanji and resorts to make fun of him. And their aggressive comments to each other I can see them just being boys, being confident that they can insult each other. [/QUOTE]I dunno, the fact that they experienced a bunch of (gag) sequences together doesn't exactly make them close. Discounting the fact that Yosuke constantly gets on Kanji's nerves with his comments, the two don't seem to get along all in general. To start, Yosuke's was pretty damn irritated at him for crashing "operation up close and personal." He's pretty aggressive towards Kanji (mostly due to the latter's nonchalant activity during group meetings) and Yosuke pretty much instigates the infamous camp scene and, yet he calls him a "putz" for running off.
Well I don't have Golden so I can't comment, but I have read that they have one of those in-battle dialogue in PQ.(I don't think they have many dungeon conversations either
I can't remember his exact quote, but I do recall Yosuke says that despite his nature, in his inside he's just a fluffy guy, which shows that Yosuke really gets to know him. And after that he says that he appreciates him. He doesn't even mention any issue with him thinking he's gay. It's way warmy than calling Yukiko an airhead.and the way that Yosuke talks about Kanji in arena seems a little less warm than the way he talks about the others (He explicitly refers to him as an underclassmen.)
Heh, I thought about this before. The reason actually Yosuke is scared like that is because in that moment he realized that the people he is battling act like that: Chie tries to eat him, Yukiko acts like of the high royalness, Yu is all Nanako crazy, so of course he figures out that then Kanji would actually act like a Beefcake Emperor, much like his Shadow. I doubt any other party members wouldn't be scared.Can't forget the "BEEFCAKE EMPEROR?!?" sequence either.
And after that, Yosuke gives Kanji tons of yen for him to spend with Teddie.EDIT: Kanji (to Yosuke): Ohhh... I get it. What you're really asking is... Will you please beat the shit out of me, Kanji?
I actually did not enjoy the newly added scenes in Golden as much as I thought I would. I don't know why and as I mentioned earlier I hated the camping scene although that's present in vanilla P4 as well. I don't know if those are meant to make the group tighter together. I think the Fool S.link and the cast member's S.link did a splendid job connecting the cast together. Without dumb comedy involved.
But that's just me.
Thanks for the link PK! That's actually quite a nice description of Yukiko, coming from Yosuke.
To be honest, there are barely any Persona comedy scenes that I actually like, so I'm with you on that.
Hmm. I'm still not really convinced. Yosuke and Teddie bring the wild side of Kanji by teasing him to do stuff somehow, they all do all those whacky and stupid plans together. I could also say that Kanji and Rise being seen together often doesn't equal to being close or having a friendship, but then you could say about that NPC that comments she thinks they're dating, but eh, I think the reason of that is because Kanji and Rise know each other outside of school and probably don't have other friends to hang out with during class, as when the "After School" segment starts they inmediantly go back to see Yu and their other senpais.
Hmm, I can see your poin there, but most of that is in the beginning of the game, where Yosuke's pretty much scared of Kanji and resorts to make fun of him. And their aggressive comments to each other I can see them just being boys, being confident that they can insult each other.
I can't remember his exact quote, but I do recall Yosuke says that despite his nature, in his inside he's just a fluffy guy, which shows that Yosuke really gets to know him. And after that he says that he appreciates him. He doesn't even mention any issue with him thinking he's gay. It's way warmy than calling Yukiko an airhead.
Heh, I thought about this before. The reason actually Yosuke is scared like that is because in that moment he realized that the people he is battling act like that: Chie tries to eat him, Yukiko acts like of the high royalness, Yu is all Nanako crazy, so of course he figures out that then Kanji would actually act like a Beefcake Emperor, much like his Shadow. I doubt any other party members wouldn't be scared.
And after that, Yosuke gives Kanji tons of yen for him to spend with Teddie.
Uh...holy shit. I am so happy I haven't gotten spoiled in all these years.
Spoilers for P4 below.
So I never got a chance to finish P3 but I am hoping to do so after I finish up with Golden.
So I'm in the beginning of the school trip right now in Golden and I really didn't expect any of this. Wtf. So great! Just hearing the music got me excited. Now I don't even know what else to expect...tell me there's more.
The way I see it the fact that Kanji decides to go along with both of them makes him try a lot of different things he has never done before and helps him grow. In the beach scene you see Kanji saying how pleased he is to scenes "out-of-character", so he takes value of the moments he spends/suffer with those guysI'm not sure where you're going with that line of reasoning. When Kanji gets caught up in Yosuke/Teddie's antics, they act as a single unit. It's not like he makes the conscious decision to get involved in their nonsense, he's just going along for the ride because he has nothing better to do. The thing is, they don't become bffs through events,;they're just buttmonkeys for that particular scene. (And it's not like he's always cooperating with them either. He hangs back when Yosuke and Teddie try to peep on the girls in Golden, for instance)
Rise's involved in Kanji's social link? The only thing I remember about is Kanji telling how he showed one of his sewing products to Rise, and then she calling him weird.. Yosuke is also supportive of Kanji's relationship with Naoto, he tries to convince him to go with Naoto during that umbrella scene.Re: Rise & Kanji
It's more than just the fact that they live near each other. They spend time together outside of the investigation group, which is more than you can say about most of the single pairs in the investigation team (including Yosuke/Kanji). You can see them hanging out during one of Marie's social link ranks. Rise's involved in Kanji's social link. Rise looks out for him during the ski trips (sets up Kanji with Naoto). It's reflected in the dialogue too; Rise's a lot more casual towards Kanji than she is towards anyone else. I think there's this unique closeness between them.
Incidentally, Rise has friends at school. Tons of them, in fact.
I was recalling the moment he freaked out in the camp scene to the point of teasing him. Should have worded myself better.He's definitely not scared of him; in the examples I brought up, he's actually quite annoyed at him. Admittedly, their relationship does get better as time passes, but not to a point where i'd call them close in any capacity.
I rewatched the scene. Yosuke just says he's a year younger than him. I don't where you took the conclusion of underclassmen to secondary friend just like that.It's all about tone. Yosuke says "I bet he would love to talk to an upperclassmen like me" doesn't sound like something you'd say about a friend. That line to me, shows that he sees him as a secondary friend; someone who's a part of the same group, but not exactly someone he's particularly close with. I'll concede that he's on noticeably better terms with Kanji in P4A than in P4, but I don't think they're that close. Incidentally, the fact that Yosuke can actually deride Yukiko is a big deal. It shows that he's come a long way from treating her like some goddess.
It's not about Kanji itself, it's because the way he's gonna act according to the video. Of course he would prefer to confront a carnivore, a bear beast, etc. compared to a guy who would try to, um do that stuff.. It's Yosuke. If it was Teddie or Yu or some random guy who were gonna act like that, he would def not want to be alone with them.I'm fully aware of why he's scared. It's basically a gag scene, but it's worth noting because he's noticeably less compliant about finding Kanji than the rest of his friends.
"Noooo, I don't want to be alone with him!" Jesus man...
Guess we percieve the scene differently then.Yeah, because he sees him as a kid who gets into a trouble. Yosuke wouldn't give yen to a friend and say "here, by something" because it would be incredibly disrespectful.
When Break Record.
a boston terrierwonder what the "animal like" team member we will get.....
a red panda?
Guys, apparently there are people who think Yukari is "a bitch" throughout Persona 3. PLEASE tell me you guys don't agree with that D:
(And if you do think this I'd actually be really interested in hearing your argument.)
Perhaps it is the five senses?
Edit: MC already appears to have some sort of sight, looking at the teaser. Maybe I really am on to something...
Don't worry Atlus, we'llfind your missing game for you!not
Well, I guess I'm lonely here but... I'll say it anyway:
I love Persona and Soejima work like no one here but, seriosly, why:
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Lets put it all together:
Something were missed along the way....
Too much generic anime cute curly and shy-nerdy boy maybe?
Oh! And one more thing, the logo... uffff, I'll save you the comparison between P3-P4-P5 cuz... It hurts my heart when I think about it.
I think Soejima did a great job. Glasses-kun is different from the previous protagonists, but still visually appealing.
It also helps we have yet to see Soejima's original art. Remember that the characters always look different in the animated cutscenes.
It also helps we have yet to see Soejima's original art. Remember that the characters always look different in the animated cutscenes.
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