TheMrPliskin
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Now I want the protagonist to be silent for the whole game and then he finally speaks at the end but he has a super thick scouse accent, it would be glorious.
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Persona Community Thread |OT6| Where 6 Comes Before 5 (No PQ or P4U spoilers!)
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Now I want the protagonist to be silent for the whole game and then he finally speaks at the end but he has a super thick scouse accent, it would be glorious.
You're good at this. Really good.
MysticDistance
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I'm glad people like it. I'll be adding more. Currently, I'm using some photo shaders and other tools to find out what some of the Japanese text says, as it's barely readable from the angles in the trailer.
Vox Chaotica
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We believe in you, Mystic~
Mostly because we're just thirsty for anything related to Persona 5. :V
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Yar, artwork and animation design are not really comparable. For the sake of fairness, the protagonists in their respective premiere animated trailers:
I forgot how messed up P3Hero looks in the cutscenes vs artwork.
I'll have to give Mystic's post a read at some point. It's a big 'un.
Hahaha that would be amazing.
Ahahaha. Everyone that isn't Aigis looks messed up in the cutscenes for Persona 3. They're really awful.
Yukari is the worst of the bunch, however. Looks nothing like the Soejima art.
TheMrPliskin
Member
The newspaper clippings are interesting as that first half or so seems like just general bad occurrences but they gradually escalate to the point of physical violence, maybe this will be a key focus of the game in that things will continue to escalate unless something changes which would be where the the protagonist would come in.
Pretty much. I appreciate that they've maintained Naoto's distance to him. Would have been lame if they'd paired them off in later media to appease a certain part of the fanbase.
Is it a contest?
I think it's a great design, personally.
That was interesting to read, Mystic. Your avatar really did it justice
So the school emblem says "Shujin" and not "Shuujin"? If it is then I have to change my school emblem drawing then
You did this? It's great!
GamingBird
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TheMrPliskin
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This only confirms that scouse accents should be in every form of fiction if not just to see peoples confusion as to what is being said.
Scrooge McDuck
Member
Impressive work!
Five teasers is also my guess, though I prefer that they'd not spread it that far apart. Maybe once every two weeks? *bargaining*
Then they'd have some three months to actually do media blowout, fleshing out plot and gameplay details and the like.
I am still not convinced that the mobile phones are conscious decision tied to a theme rather than simply visual choices that make sense. It is a modern Japanese big city, after all. P4 intro has the protagonist using phones. The P3 intro also features many people using their phones in the city.
The same goes with the idol ads. They're just things that make sense.
Considering the name and the apparent theme, I think Shujin High School would be your typical public prep school with really strict regulations. That uniform design also screams uptightness to me.
From the beginning, I thought this teaser is supposed to show the character's first accidental Persona awakening, with other teasers showing other party members' respective awakenings. I haven't given any thought to the possibility of it being another person's Persona. If that's the case, maybe the other party members are actually there on the crossing, too, unwittingly witnessing the same Persona summoning event.
Yes I did. It was a request from Vox for his cosplay.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
What an amazing post.
Holy shit, Bloodborne and Persona 5 releasing the same day and same week as the birthday. Based god why are you doing this to me I don't deserve this gift.
It's a great post by Mystic, but let's not go over our heads here...if not we might have another P5Hero thing going on. It's just speculation at this point.
MysticDistance
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Thank you. This is just speculation. I don't want people taking the release date theory as fact.
TheMrPliskin
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February seems possible as it still falls into the winter season meaning that the mention of 2015 in the trailer just narrows it down to next year, I'm pretty sure Catherine's release date was a similar situation.
Vox Chaotica
Member
And I specifically requested "Shuujin" instead of "Shujin", so it's perfectly alright in my case. I'm going for a visual pun with my cosplay, even if it's as subtle as the wording of the insignia. You did well, Arue~
EDIT: I guess this is the post where I admit that I'm an avid cosplayer, and create my own clothing. I'm guessing the Glasses-kun ensemble will take me a few months to make by hand, the majority of the time going into the high school insignia/patch.
MysticDistance
Banned
Alright. I finished writing the theory. It's on page 235 if anyone else is curious.
I want to give one little disclaimer before anyone reads it. Please do not take it as anything else but speculation. I don't want people assuming that I know something, or am claiming to have insider information. It's just a simple theory, is all. I hope everyone enjoys it.
I want to give one little disclaimer before anyone reads it. Please do not take it as anything else but speculation. I don't want people assuming that I know something, or am claiming to have insider information. It's just a simple theory, is all. I hope everyone enjoys it.
animaSerah
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Using Mystic's analysis, I think I figured out where our protagonist is in the overhead shot:
Also, though I'm not 100% about this, in that scene, the protagonist is the only person who isn't moving, until the P5 logo appears and we see the "time stop" or whatever happens to everyone else. The fact that he does stop to look up is the only reason I was able to find him in the above image.
Secondly, I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but as the scene of the reflection in the protagonist's glasses fades out, we see "persona5.jp" appear with something inside:
Does anyone else think that this looks like a pair of flaming eyes among blue flames? Could whatever the protagonist is staring at be staring back at him? If that's the case, then whatever this thing is, combined with what looks to be bodies strewn about at its feet, makes me think this is some kind of Shadow, and not a Persona; typically, antagonist Personas have been engulfed in red flame, while this one has blue. Obviously that's not enough to make any kind of real judgment, but it's the feeling that I'm getting from this.
Anyways, excellent work on dissecting this trailer, Mystic!
EDIT:
Something else that occurs to me as I watch the trailer... this is all happening during the day. In what appears to be the real world. If both of those things are actually true, then this is a rather huge departure from P3 and P4. P3's Dark Hour happened at midnight and fundamentally altered the real world, and P4's Midnight Channel appeared at midnight, and the action took place in another world entirely. Perhaps Persona 5 will be different, and whatever "time stop" that we see in this trailer will be the only thing separating the supernatural from the everyday, which might mean that innocents could be more directly at risk this time around (both story-wise and in combat), as evidenced by the bodies that appear to be at the feet of the blue-flame creature.
Also, though I'm not 100% about this, in that scene, the protagonist is the only person who isn't moving, until the P5 logo appears and we see the "time stop" or whatever happens to everyone else. The fact that he does stop to look up is the only reason I was able to find him in the above image.
Secondly, I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but as the scene of the reflection in the protagonist's glasses fades out, we see "persona5.jp" appear with something inside:
Does anyone else think that this looks like a pair of flaming eyes among blue flames? Could whatever the protagonist is staring at be staring back at him? If that's the case, then whatever this thing is, combined with what looks to be bodies strewn about at its feet, makes me think this is some kind of Shadow, and not a Persona; typically, antagonist Personas have been engulfed in red flame, while this one has blue. Obviously that's not enough to make any kind of real judgment, but it's the feeling that I'm getting from this.
Anyways, excellent work on dissecting this trailer, Mystic!
EDIT:
Something else that occurs to me as I watch the trailer... this is all happening during the day. In what appears to be the real world. If both of those things are actually true, then this is a rather huge departure from P3 and P4. P3's Dark Hour happened at midnight and fundamentally altered the real world, and P4's Midnight Channel appeared at midnight, and the action took place in another world entirely. Perhaps Persona 5 will be different, and whatever "time stop" that we see in this trailer will be the only thing separating the supernatural from the everyday, which might mean that innocents could be more directly at risk this time around (both story-wise and in combat), as evidenced by the bodies that appear to be at the feet of the blue-flame creature.
we.are.the.armada
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Love it.
I dig the uniform too, I like the (2) button and the section sign § on the emblem.
Sure those are things that definitely happened, but I fail to see how that somehow makes Yosuke 1-1 bond with Kanji stronger. A lot of that is just IT group excursion stuff. He's valuing the group in its entirety, not Yosuke.
Dude, don't omit happens after next to support your argument. Immediately after saying it's weird that he does those things, she's supportive of his hobby, which in turn gives him a confidence boost. I mean she took the time to drop by his place in the first place! How many times has Yosuke visited or talked to Kanji alone? Damn, I cannot believe we're having a pissing contest...
There's a pretty obvious difference between the [harmless] nicknames that Rise gives to Kanji and Yosuke's harsh teasing. Kanji is seriously bothered by Yosuke's jabs (Chie has to specifically point that out to Yosuke) but it's pretty obvious that he isn't bothered at all by Rise's silly nickname. Because that's what Moronji is. A silly nickname.
Just her personality, in conjunction with her comment during the Valentine's day scene makes me think that. She wouldn't go out of her way to buy and give out chocolates to "rabid Rise fans" and she explicitly says that they're those chocolates are for friends.
I don't even want to want to get into this, lmao.
The fact that he didn't badmouth him is cool, but it just represents his change in disposition towards him. Does not badmouthing a person you used to dump on make their friend?
If you say so. I'm convinced that Yosuke wouldn't hesitate to find Yu or Teddie, even if their titles were like Kanji's, but that's an argument for another day.
Here's 10 bucks, get yourself something nice. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
What's the differences between P3P and P3FES?
ispendtoomuchmoneyongames
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P3P has all of the non-dungeon interactions in a visual novel/point and click format. It also has a female protagonist route and lets you control the other party members directly in battle (like P4), neither of which FES have.
FES has an epilogue mode (the Answer) which fills in some story stuff after the ending of P3, plus you can run around the map like in P4.
MiguelMexMIstery
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Most of the things that happen in the IT group excursion, he spends with Yosuke and the guys.
We don't even know the reason why Rise visited or talked to Kanji alone there, Kanji just says she stopped by their store. Maybe she was just shopping or on an errand? And we don't get to see what happens to others all day, maybe Yosuke and Teddie visit Kanji frequently too.
And actually, she doesn't say he's weird, she says he's CREEPY. and then Kanji says it hurt him. Then Rise says "Maybe you're an amazing guy after all". She says "maybe" and "after all". I don't know how Kanji got a confidence boost or if Rise is supportive of that when Kanji was more agitated than happy in the outcome.
How in the heck is "Moronji" silly and harmless? Kanji shows to be seriously bothered by it, just like with Yosuke. In the skii trip scene he tells her stop. Teddie and Naoto during the cutscene also call him Moronji because Rise called him that, and I doubt Kanji would want that, specially if it's Naoto.
I fail to see it. She was just being nice with people probably.
That's just the way I see how Yosuke went from "oh my gosh don't get near me" to "isn't he cute, Kanji?" My point of view, of course.
Yeah, it shows your relationship with them better. And you forgot to note that Yosuke feels bad for Kanji's situation and thinks of him as a great guy.
If you say so. I'm convinced that Yosuke wouldn't hesitate to find Yu or Teddie, even if their titles were like Kanji's, but that's an argument for another day.
Yosuke just can't be friendly, huh.
Is being able to control other party members and a FeMC worth it? Seems like FES is the better version otherwise.
ispendtoomuchmoneyongames
Member
The FeMC route is pretty cool and being able to control other party members definitely helps, but I like FES better overall. I have both because I like playing on my Vita because I travel a lot, but if you were only going to get one I would choose FES.
Love Deterrence
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Excellent analysis, MysticDistance and TheTrueSelf!! Wow!
Cannon_Fodder
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Fantastic analysis MysticDistance and TheTrueSelf! Really enjoyed reading it.
My personal theory is that the scenes from that P5 visual aren't a trailer in the standard sense, but rather a collection of cutscenes from the final game (train scenes for the protagonists arrival, crosswalk for his awakening). So on that basis, I'm hesitant to call those cut ins on the billboard character cameos because that would be really out of place and in a regular cutscene.
My personal theory is that the scenes from that P5 visual aren't a trailer in the standard sense, but rather a collection of cutscenes from the final game (train scenes for the protagonists arrival, crosswalk for his awakening). So on that basis, I'm hesitant to call those cut ins on the billboard character cameos because that would be really out of place and in a regular cutscene.
Hey so I know that the timing of this is terrible with the P5 reveal, but hey we recorded a podcast with indie developer Bill Stiernberg from Zeboyd Games. He's one half of the folks that Breath of Death VII, Cthulhu Saves the World, and is currently working on the highly anticipated Cosmic Star Heroine. We talked about Persona and Chrono Trigger n'stuff.
Armada made the title card... lol
Armada made the title card... lol
I didn't mind not controlling the party. You can still give them tactics to follow so it's not like you have no control at all. I don't think I ever died and felt like it was the party AIs fault... though the final boss is a huge pain and is probably much easier with full party control.
I think the best way to do it is:
P3 FES > The Answer > P3P FeMC route
If you don't mind getting two versions and playing through the game twice.
That's true, if this was a cutscene from the actual game. Something weird's going on with the area at that point, though, so maybe it affected that billboard too.
Worldwide release required.
I feel that Atlus might prepare something special for their 25th anniversary on November 24, 2014.
ispendtoomuchmoneyongames
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Nice! Can't wait to listen! The last one was probably my favorite one yet.
I have a soft spot for the fanfic one though, my friends and I play a drinking game where we read horrifying fanfic to make each other laugh
TheMrPliskin
Member
I think you're right about the protagonists position as it certainly matches up but now that must mean that something was cut out, after the time stop and the protagonist looking around we get a cut to the platforms and the release window followed by this shot:
This shot seems like it would be from the protagonists point of view as the position match up, in this shot we can see that the flame is a distance away and is surrounded by a large crowd but then we have the final shot:
Now in this shot the protagonist looks like he is looking directly at the fire which wouldn't have been possible before not only due to the distance but also the people that are in the way, so I feel like something was cut out and that something would probably help the scene make more sense hence it being cut.
Hot Coldman
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Cannon_Fodder
Member
It'd be really cool if they did do something around that date, because as you said, it'd be their 25th anniversary and almost exactly a year since the first P5 reveal. Only time will tell if anything happens, but I'd be up for watching another stream if there was one.
MysticDistance
Banned
I definitely agree. I feel the red banners that appear (Staff members, game logo, and site text) are there in place of things that are cut, or to make it look less like a spliced together scene. This is definitely not the full version of whatever this cutscene is.
A list of info/things I want
1. To hear at least one song. I need that asap.
2. See how they changed the battle system.
3. See how they changed the dungeon system.(not necessarily how we access it though)
4. See how they changed social links
5. Some other party members.
6. And in game graphics of course.
and that is all the info i need on the game. Having MC design though will hold me over for awhile. I expect Atlus to focus on Dancing until it releases.
I maintain that if we're not going to get this in the states until the second half of next year (read: a full year away), then I'm perfectly fine with getting as little info as possible. Any influx of info in 2014 is just going to be annoying.
I'm glad they released this little tidbit in order to lessen our concern, though.
I'm glad they released this little tidbit in order to lessen our concern, though.
UltraGunner
Banned
I'm wondering what the importance of the section sign in the corner is.That was interesting to read, Mystic. Your avatar really did it justice
So the school emblem says "Shujin" and not "Shuujin"? If it is then I have to change my school emblem drawing then
Ganzlinger
Member
Mystic is our Detective Prince. Great work! lol
But what if Atlus is trolling us and the boy who seems to be the P5MC isn't the MC but one of his friends? I know there's no chance.. but I was thinking about this because I always imagined the P5MC to be represented by the chair in the center. lol
But what if Atlus is trolling us and the boy who seems to be the P5MC isn't the MC but one of his friends? I know there's no chance.. but I was thinking about this because I always imagined the P5MC to be represented by the chair in the center. lol
I considered this, but I feel fairly confident he's the MC.
By the way, was anyone able to grab a translation of Hashino's blog post?