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Persona Community Thread |OT8| Coming Winter 2014
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A Dead Diehard
Member
Too bad
humanity has to basically become enlightened for him to be free.
That or
we make someone else take his place.
we had a disposable Wild Card lying arou-
Ultimax, you beautiful trash!
CrimsonFist
Member
Ok, I'll actually get behind that idea just because of how great it is
Ganzlinger
Member
Agree with Crimson here.
I wonder if they'll follow up on
what happened after Ultimax... The ending is basically a sequel/spinoff hook.
TheMrPliskin
Member
Why would you want to sacrifice a good character for a bad one?
cj_iwakura
Member
They never really confirmed why, but Arena drives a nail in it.
A Dead Diehard
Member
What part of
"disposable"
iirc, Marge also mentions that
Liz wanted to team up with the P3 crew ("the ones her guest had bonded with") for her quest.
Ganzlinger
Member
lmao people are already getting sensitive.
TheMrPliskin
Member
I suppose Yu is pretty terrible.
A Dead Diehard
Member
-_-
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....
And you know what? If they hadn't expanded on it in the first place, I probably would have agreed with you.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Honestly, though? P3 never needed expanding upon and I'd revel in them just dropping the plot forever.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
I've played P3 FES and The Answer, but neither Arena nor Ultimax, and I don't really care about spoilers for them much.
Someone explain.
cj_iwakura
Member
P3MC is keeping the collective malice at bay, and Erebus will be constantly revived despite Elizabeth's constant efforts otherwise, and she's arguably the most powerful Persona user alive right now.
And if Elizabeth has the wild card now, that makes her just about unstoppable.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
See, I knew all this, except
Elizabeth has the Wild Card?
Lol,
he's a Wild Card? Toss him in there.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Crimson gets it, but I've got a friend who also has iwakura's idea.
Yeah, she
gets it at the end of her storyline in Arena.
I'm still opposed to
saving Makoto in any way, shape or form; but this is the closest we'll ever get to an acceptable compromise without completely discarding P3's themes.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
I didn't know this was a thing that could be gained.
Do we know where the Wild Card ability comes from, or what causes it?
Is it Philemon messing with stuff?
I haven't played P1 or P2 either, because I don't have the hardware to do so. :'(
A Dead Diehard
Member
It's basically having a giant anvil dropped on your head by the writers that says "This character is important".
cj_iwakura
Member
Well, him and Elizabeth did get down in FES...
There's crazier theories.
But seriously, yes, probably Philemon.
There's crazier theories.
But seriously, yes, probably Philemon.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
LMAO
I thought there might be actual lore involved!
The shit people come up with, pfft, haha.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Dude, if that's how it happened, I'm pretty sure there'd be a lot more wild cards running around.
cj_iwakura
Member
Dude, if that's how it happened, I'm pretty sure there'd be a lot more wild cards running around.
Yuko confirmed as OP.
I've always thought that the Wild Card ability was just a natural development of having the Fool Arcana. PQ kinda implies this with all of the other party members drawing fool cards being one half of the justification for why everyone can now change personas.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Since it looks like P5 MC will most likely be a Wild Card, I wonder if anyone will bring it up. I always thought it was weird that Yu switches between like 80 Personas and nobody ever thinks to wonder about it. At least Mitsuru was like, "and now we have someone who can use multiple Personas, what's going on?" for like one line.
CrimsonFist
Member
So much we still don't know about Persona 5's mechanics. All PV3 really told us on that front is that you can still acquire new personas.
Hopefully everyone will be customisable this time around, and I wouldn't mind if they just drop the wildcard stuff altogether and just have it so that anyone can switch personas, no story justification needed.
Hopefully everyone will be customisable this time around, and I wouldn't mind if they just drop the wildcard stuff altogether and just have it so that anyone can switch personas, no story justification needed.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
This would seem to make sense, except that apparently
Sho is a Wild Card, but the Wiki says his Arcana is Sun/Moon?
I like the way PQ handled this. But I also like how Wild Cards affect party planning. I'm good with anything, I guess, lol.
CrimsonFist
Member
Does Sho
A return of the sub persona system would be good, since it would keep people who like keeping the starter persona happy too.
actually acquire the wild card, or is it just suggested that he has the potential to?
A return of the sub persona system would be good, since it would keep people who like keeping the starter persona happy too.
Quick Persona 4 Golden late game spoiler question for the persona community here:
Is there a way to skip
Is there a way to skip
Maire's dungeon? I took a break from the game thinking I wanted to do it, but now that I am back playing I just want to see the ending. Seems like the game throws me into it automatically on the ski trip.
I don't think so but it's pretty short so just plow through it, the dungeon and boss music is good and you'll get to see the scenes afterwards.
A Dead Diehard
Member
"He'll surely have many more experiences and battles on his journey from here on... as a new guest of the room." -Margaret,
Not a lot of room for interpretation there.
CrimsonFist
Member
You missed your chance to skip it by finishing her social link
You don't really want to skip it anyway, because
You don't really want to skip it anyway, because
beating it is required to unlock the epilogue
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Sho as a main character in Persona :Warriors!
Welp, I guess I know what I'm doing tomorrow. Hopefully it doesn't take too long. I'm not exactly a high level, although I am playing on an easier difficulty.
Wanted to beat this before Dancing All Night.
StarSketch
Banned
Hey, guys what's going-
-reads the last page or so and bursts into Yukiko style laughter-
-reads the last page or so and bursts into Yukiko style laughter-
A Dead Diehard
Member
Remember to be mindful of spoilers.
The concept of a Persona/MegaTen action game just sounds like it could be so cool. I'm reminded of Capcom's Chaos Legion where you could summon monsters to fight alongside you.
I need to get around to playing the Raidou games. >_>;
Elizabeth having the wild card is a late game spoiler for Arena, for example.
The concept of a Persona/MegaTen action game just sounds like it could be so cool. I'm reminded of Capcom's Chaos Legion where you could summon monsters to fight alongside you.
I need to get around to playing the Raidou games. >_>;
I'd pay a disgusting amount of money for a warriors game based on the first SMT alone, anything else is a sweet bonus.
I've only played the first game, thanks to King Abaddon not releasing in Europe and Australia, but I do remember enjoying it's aesthetics enough to power through the gameplay being below par. The manual for Soulless Army is absolutely amazing as well.
A Dead Diehard
Member
P3's ending is P3's ending. Only way they can "ruin" it is by making what's suggested an epilogue for P3 Definitive.
My post was mainly directed towards to the
revive makoto via spinoff game
It certainly is missing the point. To me it would undercut all of the impact that P3 earned by the end.
"Nevermind, we saved him. Humans are all better now." Yay?
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Every time I get to November in P4,
I get annoyed that I have the option to tell Dojima everything, but I can't shove my hand in a TV to prove it. Like, I get they don't want the story to take that path, but having the option to confess everything paired with a TV right there in the interrogation room, and not to do the incredibly obvious proof is just so...dissonant. Just remove the television from the room or something.
somotodsyo
Member
Yeah, that was a little frustrating.
I believe that TV was necessary later, though.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
It's really not.
Unless I've forgotten something that happens with it at a later date, all that happens is Yu sees that Nanako is the one on the Midnight Channel. That could be reworked, really.
properpropaganda
Member
Didn't
Adachi throw Saki in with that tv?
In P3, is there any penalty from not completing ALL of Elizabeth's requests? I didn't realize I needed to actually accept the particular request and now it's too late.
afreaknamedpete
Member
P3's ending is P3's ending. Only way they can "ruin" it is by making what's suggested an epilogue for P3 Definitive.
P3 ending was amazing. It's technically sad and tragic but I found it to be a happy ending of sorts (until FES at least).
The final few days were almost written as a funeral/eulogy, the whole sequence has a "life well lived" kind of feeling to it, which thematically fits with all the memento mori stuff they shove down your throat. It's sad that the MC died but it felt like the game was trying to emphasize all the good the MC did with his limited time.
If it's one thing I'm hoping P5 does well it's the commitment to theme that P3 did.
It's amazing that everyone and their dog (except Fukka) had some family or loved one die in story or be a major component of their backstory. P4 did it too with it's emphasis on like hiding the truth and whatnot, though the theme was less straightforward. P5's theme sounds to be in between, a little less specific than P3's theme but at least more focused than P4's.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Oh, maybe? I don't remember, and I haven't gotten far enough again this playthrough to see the more thorough explanation.
Still could be solved by
having more than one interrogation room!