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Not really? but like theme as the P4D music playing in the background. Which is pretty cool.
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Not really? but like theme as the P4D music playing in the background. Which is pretty cool.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
I got Hardcore Risette Fan on my first try lol. The one I keep missing is to read all the books.
Modest Mauser
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Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
The first time I played P3, I went through the centre part while I was sick and pretty out of it, which was great because I was in the sort of mood to just level and focus on minutiae and stats and try not to feel sick. The second time I played through the centre, I realized just what a ridiculous amount of dead space there is in the middle of the plot.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
P3's pacing is atrocious. That game is in dire need of some fluff to make it seem less dead. P4's wasn't that much better, but it had more stuff going on between plot points.
and better written social links
Modest Mauser
Member
It's the Atlus tax.
Though there were a few Vita games at $50, Uncharted Vita was that price at launch I believe.
Lucky you
I've tried to get the last trophy I need (Hardcore Risette Fan) 3 or 4 times, full playthroughs as well, & I just cannot get it.
So infuriating not being able to platinum my favourite game. Alas.
Maybe I'll get it in ten years when I go back to see how P4 holds up to P6
If you haven't gotten it after playing through the game that many times, you're doing something wrong. Are you rotating your party? Talking to Rise during dungeons w/ different costumes? That's the quickest and most efficient way of getting it.
Modest Mauser
Member
Talking to Rise outside battle doesn't count.
Benzychenz
Member
Yeah the only lines that count are the ones that have text pop up during battle and are voiced.
There's a lot of misinformation online about this trophy, a big one is saying not to overlevel to miss the 'enemy is tough' etc lines, but they don't count anyway because they appear when you scan and there's no text on screen. In reality you miss like 3 lines by overleveling which is easily made up elsewhere.
The trophy annoyed me but it's pretty simple really.
I just ran through the game with Yosuke/Chie/Yukiko until I unlocked Naoto, then went through Heaven with Kanji/Teddie/Naoto, then ran through some older dungeons with them.
Then did some cleanup, get all the party members to die, get lines for escaping from battle, lines for stat debuffs (dice in the lab cast Debillitate), then finally ailments. Trophy popped when I'd done poison/rage/silence/fear (fear is two lines per party member because they flee) with everyone (in addition to whatever else happened naturally earlier on).
Just make sure when you have a debuff or ailment you click in and out of scanning an enemy until the line actually pops up.
There's a lot of misinformation online about this trophy, a big one is saying not to overlevel to miss the 'enemy is tough' etc lines, but they don't count anyway because they appear when you scan and there's no text on screen. In reality you miss like 3 lines by overleveling which is easily made up elsewhere.
The trophy annoyed me but it's pretty simple really.
I just ran through the game with Yosuke/Chie/Yukiko until I unlocked Naoto, then went through Heaven with Kanji/Teddie/Naoto, then ran through some older dungeons with them.
Then did some cleanup, get all the party members to die, get lines for escaping from battle, lines for stat debuffs (dice in the lab cast Debillitate), then finally ailments. Trophy popped when I'd done poison/rage/silence/fear (fear is two lines per party member because they flee) with everyone (in addition to whatever else happened naturally earlier on).
Just make sure when you have a debuff or ailment you click in and out of scanning an enemy until the line actually pops up.
Every guide out there I've followed. Advice won't help me much now lol, I've no intention of trying again anytime soon.
I assume I achieved it at some point in those playthroughs but it didn't 'pop' at the time. So it registers as me having completed the requirements for the trophy but I didn't actually get it.
A couple of Vita game trophies have not 'popped' exactly like that for me in the past (Hotline Miami the other most annoying one) so that's why I think that. Just a theory.
I assume deleting the game data delete & reinstalling might help. Maybe I'll do that next time I try.
ErkieFresh
Neo Member
Is there a GAF consensus about what the best spinoff is? I'm talking amongst Q, Arena, Ultimax, and DAN. I ask because I've finished 3 and 4 and I sort of don't know where to go next.
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
I don't know if there's a consensus, but PQ is great if you like labyrinth crawling.
Edit: Bear in mind that's the only one I can vouch for; I don't have the others.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Not sure about best. Ultimax seems to be the whipping boy, but even that has its defenders.
ErkieFresh
Neo Member
Ok cuz the labyrinth crawling is sort of what put me off on Q. If it has a similar ratio to P4G of crawling to story, then I'm probably onboard. But gameplay videos I've watched have made me feel like it may not be for me.
Because gameplay wise it's still really good.
It's the plot of Ultimax that gives it whipping boy status.
People who actually play the game and not just go through its story mode generally like it, which is why that game has the highest Metacritic score out of all the spin-offs (MC referred to for consensus and not objective quality).
ErkieFresh
Neo Member
Interesting. Thanks for all the feedback guys. In terms of plot then, what separates Ultimax from Arena? Is one better than the other?
Inquisitive_Ghost
Member
Oh, no, it's got a far lower ratio of story:dungeon crawling. Lots of little party interaction moments, but the main story gets a hefty amount in the beginning and then only sparse amounts until just before the final dungeon. It may not be for you, then.
I'm not sure I would really want to get into any of the spin-offs if you're primarily seeking their story component rather than the gameplay, although their stories are lengthy, anyways.
Persona 4 Arena Ultimax is a direct sequel to Persona 4 Arena. The latter's story is included in the former as paid DLC.
Persona Q sounds like the worst game to do that with, tbh. But I guess if one doesn't mind watching way more hours of dungeon crawling and mapping than there is story...
ErkieFresh
Neo Member
Yeah. Maybe this will be a good game to watch someone play through on youtube.
ErkieFresh
Neo Member
I see. Ok thank you. The gameplay of the fighting games and DAN at least appeals to me enough that I wouldn't be actively disliking the gameplay and just biding my time until a cut scene or a social link. I think maybe I'll start out with Arena and DAN.
Nah, you've got it wrong: I was referring to the quality of those stories. If you just want more of the Persona 4 cast, I guess they do that, though. P4A and P4AU's stories are pretty much 90% reading and 10% gameplay. P4D is probably 80% reading and 20% gameplay.
They're all pretty lengthy, too, so if you just want story and don't mind the quality of them—keeping in mind that they were formed around the gameplay and genre, and not the other way around—go for it.
There are no Social Links in any of these games.
Modest Mauser
Member
I love Persona Q, but if you're worried it may have too much dungeon crawling, it's probably not something you will enjoy.
ErkieFresh
Neo Member
Ok great. Well despite all my confusion, you have kind of confirmed my hopes. I appreciate your vast Persona knowledge. Thanks for all the clarification.
Really i personally liked Ultimax story over Arena , maybe because it feels like a only one story and not like 12 diferent ones (thanks for the concept). But still since i dont play it Q and still waiting for my Dancing All Night to come (no live in USA) i cant say which one is better
I kinda spoil myself with the first 5 minutes of the story of Dancing All Night and i love it , great way to start that story
dark as fuck
power of bonds
A Dead Diehard
Member
Ultimax's story mode had a better structure than Arena's, I'll give it that.
I'm guessing Q turned out so well cause being an RPG let it spread out its story moments?
Hard to say
The fighting game enthusiast in me loves Ultimax. The story sucked, but I got plenty out of the super duper roster (Freaking Margaret is playable) and the various game modes were pretty great. At the end of the day, it's a fun day.
The rpg fanatic in me adores Persona Q. The story was decent and the character interactions were great. Getting access to 17 fairly unique characters and building your own party with them was a blast. The game does drag at times, but if you can power yourself through those slow moments, you'll do fine. At the end of the day, it's also a fun game.
I haven't played DAN yet, so....
On chapter 2 of DAN
I'm confused. Why are some people defending this story. I feel like it insults my intelligence in the nonsense it pulls in a way thats SAO levels. The premise starts with Yu saying (I mean, I guess I'll tag this)
Am...I supposed to take him seriously? Or Naoto questioning a midnight show as a possibility...again?
Oh and er
-The beatmaps don't always match the songs.
- The UI, and more specifically the scratch notes- aren't the easiest to read, in the badly designed sort of sense, not in the "we made this difficult for gameplay!" sense.
I'm confused. Why are some people defending this story. I feel like it insults my intelligence in the nonsense it pulls in a way thats SAO levels. The premise starts with Yu saying (I mean, I guess I'll tag this)
girls got kidnapped and are gone? No, don't report that to the police, it's not like they'd even listen to us...
Oh and er
-The beatmaps don't always match the songs.
- The UI, and more specifically the scratch notes- aren't the easiest to read, in the badly designed sort of sense, not in the "we made this difficult for gameplay!" sense.
A Dead Diehard
Member
In an alternate universe, a certain game would have been featured in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcQr__0DfUU
I mean sure, but they had more context.
Also wait, they were barely gone, that's early to file a police report. I guess thats my first issue. The second one being not necessarily that they didnt file one, but that they didn't because cops wouldnt listen
Also wait, they were barely gone, that's early to file a police report. I guess thats my first issue. The second one being not necessarily that they didnt file one, but that they didn't because cops wouldnt listen
also via flandy, probably has been posted here before?
what http://www.bestbuy.com/site/persona...vita/9025026.p?id=1219698528101&skuId=9025026
"AGE 15: Common Sense Media Says: Slightly mature dance game promotes being true to yourself."
I not want to get into the story mode yet ... but after see the first chapter the dub is good as always.
Ashly Burch Rise is pretty good , i mean sure the change is kinda hard to get when you are fan of Bailey's , but im suprised her voice actually fits the character and dont sound way too diferent to the previous one.
Kanamin needs to work in her delivery but she got a good voice.
And even the Kanamin Kitchen girls got good actress ,if i got it right i think goes as :
Tomoe Sayama : Wendee Lee (i recognize her voice everywhere)
Tamami Uesegi: Sounds like Metis , Stephanie Sheh was her name i think
Sumomo Ujima : I gonna say Cassandra Lee Morris but i dont sure.
And i dont know who voice Nozomi , but damn that voice is so sexy, sounds familiar but i dont got any idea who it is.
Ashly Burch Rise is pretty good , i mean sure the change is kinda hard to get when you are fan of Bailey's , but im suprised her voice actually fits the character and dont sound way too diferent to the previous one.
Kanamin needs to work in her delivery but she got a good voice.
And even the Kanamin Kitchen girls got good actress ,if i got it right i think goes as :
Tomoe Sayama : Wendee Lee (i recognize her voice everywhere)
Tamami Uesegi: Sounds like Metis , Stephanie Sheh was her name i think
Sumomo Ujima : I gonna say Cassandra Lee Morris but i dont sure.
And i dont know who voice Nozomi , but damn that voice is so sexy, sounds familiar but i dont got any idea who it is.
Scrooge McDuck
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Customer Questions & Answers
Question: Can you imagine the step?
Answer: It's Genius!
A Dead Diehard
Member
Not sure if she ever confirmed it herself, but that's who everyone says voiced her.
Soooo... is that good or bad?
When get sounds "excited" or rise her voice sounds exactly like Metis battles quotes ... to me is her.
Oh i forgot about Ochimizu another "familiar" voice too ... but i think she not from a previous Persona game , someone says Cindy Robinson but Robinson have so many "voices" (range) im not sure to deny that.
PD : Patrick Seitz as Tanaka is frickin amazing , sounds so unfitting hahaha
Patrick Seitz is amazing , maybe my actual favorite male VA out there but damn for a character as Tanaka his deep voice dont go well at all ,plus if you compare to the japanese one.
Still is great see him getting roles in Atlus , more chances to hear him in Persona 5 .
Same with the other voices of this game : Burch , Rena Strober , Lee Morris , and Nozomi VA i wouldnt be surprised if they land a role in 5.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Maybe the same reason they had Mignogna as Igor in Ultimax?
Or not. At least Tanaka had the excuse of not having an English VA before now. :/
Yeah like seriously , you can put Dojima's VA or the guy who voices Rise's Manager and i think they fit better.
Sometimes i wonder how would be Seitz as The Phantom , i mean he can kill it as
but he not suited to voice a 16 year old in my opinion.
Really wonder who is going to voice the MC in persona 5 , i mean with the other characters i have options / wishful choices here and there but for the Phantom no one came to mind.
Sometimes i wonder how would be Seitz as The Phantom , i mean he can kill it as
Arsene as show in the pv02
Really wonder who is going to voice the MC in persona 5 , i mean with the other characters i have options / wishful choices here and there but for the Phantom no one came to mind.
Aadrian1234
Banned
My first impressions with P4 DAN aren't the greatest. Beatmap notes seem inconsistent throughout the songs, and scratch notes are really messing me up
Scratch notes are comparable to basically what is normally a background visual effect. It doesnt help that real notes have a circle too. But yeah, they're easy to miss.
(Miku for life)
This is my dream as far as far as dub actors go. There's really no one else, IMO, within the vocal age range of the role who can match Swaille for his range in going from 'meek and grounded' to 'absolutely theatrically nuts'.
Absolute worst case scenario is JYB doing Lelouch.
Dim the background.