Funyarinpa
Member
WHAT KIND OF FRIGGIN SORCERY IS THIS, TATSUYA WAS MY P4G CHAR'S NAME, WHAT THR HELL IS GOING ON WITH THE MMO SLINK
I know it's a coincidence lol
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Persona Community Thread |OT8| Coming Winter 2014
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MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
It's not a coincidence,
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Tatsuya and Maya are characters from P2
Funyarinpa
Member
Figures, it being called Innocent Sin Online and all.
Fun Fact: The original Japanese version of that S-Link referenced the original Megami Tensei series. Atlus USA changed it because it would have been way too obscure for an English speaking audience.
Tatsuya = N-jima (Nakajima, the protagonist, who created the demon summoning program to deal with bullies harassing him.)
Maya = Y-ko (Yumiko, the heroine and reincarnation of Izanami)
Innocent Sin Online = Devil Buster Online (This one's a reference to Megami Tensei II's game-within-a-game that serves as the tutorial dungeon.)
CrimsonFist
Member
Although at that point, Innocent Sin wouldn't have been available in English either
A Dead Diehard
Member
Which version are you playing, Golden or the Original?
Funyarinpa
Member
Oh my sweet summer child...
On P3P:
Just ended Floor 26 (the floor after the first trio of tough enemies in Block 2). I miss P4G's polish and 3D environments whatnot, but I love the music and somehow managed to get immersed in the combat. I need a bigger cast dammit, so far there's no character interaction at all. Not as in "P4G level amazing character interaction"- the characters simply do not interact between each other. It's pretty annoying but will hopefully be rectified when Akihiko's healed. Is there really no S. Links for individual party members or do those appear later? I wanna get to know Kirijo better, man.
Reanimatoin
Member
S.Links for the girls appear later on, none for the guys on Male route though.
Make sure you have Academics, Courage and Charm maxed out, otherwise you cant start the girls S.Links.
P3's male path has S.Links for the female party members (most of them require a certain amount of courage, knowledge, etc.) while the female route has S.Links for everyone in your party.
The group dynamic in P3 isn't nearly as good as in P4, if you ask me. It's one of the aspects that get mentioned the most when people compare the two games.
Funyarinpa
Member
Thanks! What's the most effective way to farm Cha/Aca/Cour?
I know there are places (burger shops, desk, library, part time work, etc.) but which ones are better?
Will I know when S. Links start?
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Café for charm and arcade for courage and academics was the most effective for me.
If you're gunning for Mitsy, you gotta wait until
November
have max academics
And have fun with your Kenji SL because Junpei doesn't want anything to do with you.
I am playing Golden.
Green Mamba
Member
P3 dripfeeds you S.Links at a slower rate than P4 does and has more S.Links that require you to get to a certain level in another before you can start them.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Soooooo....Um.....
Even FeMC's home girls made the movie?!
Man, Xenoblade X has totally tempered my Persona 5 hype. If one of my all time favourite games can get a sequel that is pretty fun, great even, but not amazing then it stands to reason that Persona 5 may well similarly be a good game but not spectacular like 4G.
I mean, it's not that I didn't already know that; but I guess it hadn't sunk in. Persona 5 will almost certainly be great; but is it even possible for it to live up to 3 and 4?
I mean, it's not that I didn't already know that; but I guess it hadn't sunk in. Persona 5 will almost certainly be great; but is it even possible for it to live up to 3 and 4?
To be fair, XBX is barely a sequel to Xenoblade. They were going for extremely different concepts, and only a few elements carried over. P5 is a lot closer to what P3/P4 established.
That said, yeah, there's always a chance it's not going to be as amazing as either of those games. So much of why we like things has little to do with the game's actual quality. Sometimes you're just never going to top your first experience with something.
Also, expectations color the way you approach something. If you're anything like me, P4 was a surprise: I hadn't read anything about it and just bought it on the brief reccomendation of a friend two years after it came out. With P5, however, I now have a set of expectations from my time with P4/P3.
They're also stylistically different, and there's a chance that style won't click as much as P4's did. P4 has a really nostalgic tone to it, something P5 doesn't appear to be chasing. Just like some people who prefer P3's tone to P4, P5 could be just the same. I think that works in the game's favor, but there's always a chance I might not prefer it to the others.
Putting aside the fact that I don't think X executed its concept nearly as well as the original executed its own; my disappointment comes from expecting the same thing as going from P4G to P3P. I figured I'd initially miss the setting and characters I loved but enjoy the new stuff after a few hours. I ended up, just from the way X was structured, really disappointed in the setting and characters I was waiting forever to start really liking.
I feel really wrong for saying this; but I really don't want P5 to be fresh and experimental now. I hate to speak out against innovation; but I think what I actually want from the game is for it to be as P4 is to P3. I mean, overhaul the presentation and graphics and battle system all you want but I'm really hoping they don't mess too much with the structure that works so damn well. I kinda feel burdened by all these expectations of what I want it to be now.
Ultimately, I guess I'm just scared that they'll go for some kind of fresh ambiguity, or SMTesque storytelling through world development in sidequests, or something else I haven't thought of and I won't enjoy it. I suppose the only thing I can do is be realistic about what I'm excited about; because I won't do myself any good expecting a third Persona 3 if that's not what this is going to be.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I've played through 3 and 4 so often and analysed them so thoroughly that I've stopped enjoying them as much as I used to, so I'm really just beyond ready to take P5 as its own thing. I'm not expecting as big a leap as 2-3, but I'm hoping they really shake it up in a big way.
ShadowSoldier89
Member
xenoblade was already a slap in the face coming off of xenosaga, but persona 5 doesnt seem to be taking many risks. Which is a good thing. Everyone in the RPG genre is slapping together boring as fuck open worlds and shitty combat with 2/3rds of your party AI controlled (stupid P3). The fact that P5 is still a turn based rpg, still has full party control, and isnt chaining together awful open world fetch questing makes it easy to stay hyped for it.
NotDreamcast
Member
Can't go wrong with the color red.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Red is my favorite color.
I dont see why people made a fuss about (not you) but people in tumblr and stuff , i mean that made a lot of sense.
They exist in that
reality
social links
But seeing how
theo and them
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Theo
the most neglected Velvet sibling
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
He means PQ.
Not in the movies, but he was in Ultimax and Q.
I also have no idea why we're spoiler-ing these things.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Oh. That is unfortunate. Spoilering Theo's presence there doesn't make any sense.
This is the main reason I'm excited for Persona 5, it's going against several current RPG trends (albeit by sticking with what they know) that threaten to overtake the entire genre. I'm excited to see if Persona 5 becomes influential and what other developers take away from it's potential success.
and yet...
At the end of the day, all I want out of Persona 5 is sick-ass phantom thieves styling all over my screen and I'll be satisfied five times over.
Long as P5 has what is shown in the trailers so far and more then I'm good, I just want fun and familiar combat with tons of style. I mean thats pretty much what I got into Persona for, lots of style music to listen to during work and familiar combat, If I wanted super hard or different I would've delved into the harder RPG on 3DS and stuff.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
P5 already seems to be treading the line of new and familiar very well. "Innovation" is a bullshit buzzword anyways, so let's hope we never hear any complaints about that kind of nonsense.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Yeah, Innovation is pretty much overrated I guess.
orthodoxy1095
Banned
To clarify, I like games that try new things, but when people (particularly reviewers) complain about a lack of "innovation," it never seems to me that they know what they want. It's a lazy way to critique. Hell, it's a lazy way to push your game when devs start blabbing about their game being "innovative."
Hence, a lousy buzzword.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Olengie
Member
My feelings exactly. Been waiting for that different RPG.
somotodsyo
Member
That's why it's taking me quite long to get through P3 for the first time. I almost immeditately liked the characters in P4 and I think the story also starts better. With P3, I don't have the motivation of great characters to keep me going, though I will say I start to appreciate the battle gameplay a bit more as a result. I know it gets better from the point I reached in FES, but it takes a little while to get there.
I would have suggested Female MC only. The Male MC is god-awful (imo anyway, I really do not like his writing at all, it's a huge step-down from how Tatsuya was written in P2 to compare male Persona protags.....tho P3 and P4's writing is overall a huge step-down for me upon experiencing P2 but that's another topic) and playing through the whole game once as him and then again just feels like way more effort than it needs to be if you really want to just compare the two. I would honestly just suggest doing FeMC and watching some videos on the male MC. There's no need to play the whole game twice over really. Especially since P3 starts to drag on in length as it goes on. It's still a good experience but it drags on at a point. Plus FeMC changes the whole P3 experience (for me at least) and elevates it to levels comparable to P2 anyway.
As I pointed out earlier, FeMC was a rarity for Atlus. They've barely had any lead females ever in any of their video game releases.
Edit: 6 in total to be exact....and depending on how you look at The Answer (what with it just being an addition to the main-game and not it's own game itself), Maya is the only canon female lead in a mainline Atlus game who isn't selectable but is purely meant to be the lead of her own game.....that's a bit depressing considering Atlus's long backlog of games.
It's highly unlikely they'll do anything with a female lead for a long while. That said, the Persona series has had half of the female leads that Atlus has ever created. So anything is possible.
Funyarinpa
Member
You might be right but I clocked eight hours on P3P already. Don't want to start over.
And also hey, a legit excuse to replay a Persona game, I'll take it ¯\_(ツ
_/¯Ludger Kresnik
Member
I told you about those SLs bro I told u
Aadrian1234
Banned
I played off of P3MC's apathetic "personality" cause i was in a depression when i played P3, and the game helped me in many ways that would probably be too long to post here. I have quite the emotional attachment to the character, so even though i like FeMC, P3MC is the definitive protag for me
Funyarinpa
Member
Goddamnit.
Restarting as FeMC. Better have those 8 hours wasted than wasting my first P3 experience.
edit: Man, the style. THE FUCKING STYLE. The OST changes are pretty nice for the most part (battle music is still as good but the school theme was a bit better for P3MC) but the best changes are in the battles. That leg shake thing at the beginning of every battle. That critical hit combo. That victory gesture finger shake. HNNNNG.
Just lost 3 floors of progress but it was so worth it to restart.
Restarting as FeMC. Better have those 8 hours wasted than wasting my first P3 experience.
edit: Man, the style. THE FUCKING STYLE. The OST changes are pretty nice for the most part (battle music is still as good but the school theme was a bit better for P3MC) but the best changes are in the battles. That leg shake thing at the beginning of every battle. That critical hit combo. That victory gesture finger shake. HNNNNG.
Just lost 3 floors of progress but it was so worth it to restart.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Got any ideas why? Maybe out of creative reasons?
Here's an excerpt from this interview with Masayuki Doi, the character designer for the Trauma Center series, SMT4 and its sequel as well as couple of other things:
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
They can't even do a Bifauxnen...?
SMT4F's protagonist confused many, so maybe that was Doi's compromise.
To be fair, so did SMT IV's.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
well, that sucks!