Ludger Kresnik
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The game will let you go back a week if you let her die, if you don't mind doing some stuff over.
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The game will let you go back a week if you let her die, if you don't mind doing some stuff over.
cj_iwakura
Member
Imagine if Golden made it possible to continue on after party members die. That would've been more remarkable than scooters and skiing.
Visualante2
Member
If the game expects me to grind on every day then pretty much normal won't be for me. I am struggling to get Yukiko below half health.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
You definitely don't need to grind every day, it's best to go on rainy days and try to make as much progress as possible each time. The game gets a lot easier as it goes on, and it's entirely possible to clear some of the later dungeons in a single go. As for Yukiko, it helps if Chie has Mabufu and to have a persona with Red Wall. (Slime learns the skill, fusing it onto a better persona is recommended)
but ofc if you really wanna restart on easy then you should
Visualante2
Member
I use Mabufu until about half health. But once she summons her knight and casts ice resistence it's just out of control. I have one party member healing, and the other two switching between physical attacks and debuffs.
Mabufu is of questionable use in Persona 4 Golden against Shadow Yukiko. In the original version of Persona 4 it was useful for Chie to cast it once to get an extra turn off the prince (then using a single target to not damage the prince any further), but in Persona 4 Golden the prince's weakness was changed to Electricity. And while Shadow Yukiko has a weakness to ice, she will very likely have White Wall up most of the fight to make exploiting this pretty difficult. That being said, the Prince is more dangerous in Golden due to having a higher magic stat (more potent heals) and Makajam, so it's generally a good idea to keep it in dizzy status with electricity attacks if you can.
The persona Senri is exceptional for this fight in both versions of the game. It has a resistance to fire nullifying some of Shadow Yukiko's strongest attacks. It comes with the healing skill Dia out of the gate, and when leveled up a few more levels it earns Media making your protagonist the ideal healer for this fight. It can also inherit Red Wall, Resist Physical, and Tarunda from the persona Slime too, allowing the protagonist near perfect immunity AND giving him some decent supporting options alongside that healing.
Remember tho, Visualante. Persona 3 and 4 are generally not games where you need to grind. Most of the time, simply switching your strategy around and bringing out new Personas can make all the difference in the world. You can definitely still finish the dungeon with one day left thanks to the new SP restoring mechanics from Shuffle Time and the help feature. It's also possible to farm SP restoring items on the lower floors, although it's tedious. And as noted, you can simply let time pass and travel back a week in order to get a fresher start.
The persona Senri is exceptional for this fight in both versions of the game. It has a resistance to fire nullifying some of Shadow Yukiko's strongest attacks. It comes with the healing skill Dia out of the gate, and when leveled up a few more levels it earns Media making your protagonist the ideal healer for this fight. It can also inherit Red Wall, Resist Physical, and Tarunda from the persona Slime too, allowing the protagonist near perfect immunity AND giving him some decent supporting options alongside that healing.
Remember tho, Visualante. Persona 3 and 4 are generally not games where you need to grind. Most of the time, simply switching your strategy around and bringing out new Personas can make all the difference in the world. You can definitely still finish the dungeon with one day left thanks to the new SP restoring mechanics from Shuffle Time and the help feature. It's also possible to farm SP restoring items on the lower floors, although it's tedious. And as noted, you can simply let time pass and travel back a week in order to get a fresher start.
Aadrian1234
Banned
You don't really need to grind, just try and fuse as much as you can to get the next best Persona as soon as possible
Jeez...imagine beating the game with basically just Yu alive...
Personagelion 4.0: You Are [Not] Alone. >_>
A Dead Diehard
Member
Get in the fucking TV, Yu.
Spectrasonic
Member
Ideally, you'll want to be level 15 by the end of the first dungeon, and gain +10 levels in each dungeon after that.
The first dungeon is definitely the hardest due to the lack of Personas available to you. If you're feeling underpowered, usually fusion is the answer instead of grinding.
BassForever
Member
Considering Rise fights with a microphone stand and her stand they could easily give Fuuka like a frying pan and just have her attack people with bad food and stand attacks.
I really don't think that
Shadow Mitsuo
There's also the fact that it came out after Persona 4.
A Dead Diehard
Member
There's also the fact that it came out after Persona 4.
Then maybe the reference is the other way round?
HappenstanceUK
Member
Was the Persona 3 Movie 1 ever on Netflix? I'm just watching 2 at the moment (saw 1 elsewhere when it first came out) and it just seemed odd that 1 wasn't listed.
Then maybe the reference is the other way round?
It seems most likely that they're both just referencing 8-bit RPG heroes in general...
Then maybe the reference is the other way round?
Shadow Mitsuno
It is definitely not a reference to 3D Dot Game Heroes. Five seconds of research on the writer's part would show that Atlus didn't even publish that in Japan.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Don't think it ever was, no. Which is more than just a little odd.
A Dead Diehard
Member
I did hear that the introduction text once you enter the first floor is a reference to that.
Who knows, maybe
Shadow Mitsuo
Green Mamba
Member
Atlus didn't make 3D Dot Game Heroes, and in fact they only published it in North America.
I imagine Atlus did not reuse assests from a game they did not even develop or publish, no. Especially not one which came out almost two years after Persona 4.
A Dead Diehard
Member
I imagine Atlus did not reuse assests from a game they did not even develop or publish, no. Especially not one which came out almost two years after Persona 4.
Mental note. Don't say anything. Or at least bother with fact-checking.
Also, not that it matters now, but I meant the older assets getting reused. Even I'm not stupid enough to think they reused stuff from the future, Sophia. :|
Ludger Kresnik
Member
Yukiko is pretty neat.
WRONG.
A Dead Diehard
Member
That's the sound my shovel's going to make against your head if you keep that up!
Ludger Kresnik
Member
I can't believe what I am reading and hope you find God immediately.
You can ignore Dantis-kun here. Yukiko is indeed pretty neat!
Andrefpvs
Member
And when you do, make sure you kill it in true Megaten fashion!
She's the worst.
As the years have gone on, I've grown less and less fond of her.
It's gone from "Eh." to "Eurgh.".
I really don't see any redeeming qualities to her outside of her design. I even dislike her voice.
I really only dislike Yukiko's weird laughing fits. It just doesn't make sense and really carry over to video game/VN cutscenes. It's like they wanted to give her an endearing character trait or something.
Chie's steak obsession in everything after P4 is pretty much like that, too.
Chie's steak obsession in everything after P4 is pretty much like that, too.
Ludger Kresnik
Member
That's Spinoff Writing in action. Chie likes meat. Yukiko laughs. Kanji is stupid. Teddie is a pervert. Akihiko likes protein. Their characters are nothing else now.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Yosuke is unlucky, Aigis is protective of P3MC, Mitsuru makes execution threats...
Are there more of these?
HappenstanceUK
Member
It's such a shame most of the characters get reduced down to one note characteristics or jokes outside the main games. What I always love about the Persona games is how fleshed out everyone feels.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Exactly. Laughter is the best medicine, after all. Why wouldn't the main healer use it?
That's fine! Just not fine when I have to press X to hear more laughs.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Aadrian1234
Banned
I never saw Aigis nearly as flanderized other than a few moments, though.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Yeah. She got off easy.
I did mention Arena has my favourite depiction of Aigis, yes?
"Me going into a laughing fit at something funny, recovering, hitting the button, watching Yukiko go into a laughing fit, and me going into a second one" was a regular occurrence during my original playthrough of Persona 4. I woke up my parents one night because I was laughing too hard.
Aigis was definitely flanderized, but in a good way
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Yukiko's laugh is adorable. No one can convince me otherwise.
It's like the sitcom cycle.
I've always liked Yukiko's laughing fits as well because it shows off that underneath her "unapproachable" appearance, she's as dorky as the rest of the investigation team.