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Persona Community Thread |OT8| Coming Winter 2014

Makio

Member
Those videos are great actually , and some of them looks very smooth with the game HUD (notes) from i can see in Japanese gameplay videos.

Glad they give some of the DLC for free and ones i was really looking forward like the Featherman Suits and the Girl Swimsuits.

PD: Funny i personally dont want a navigator in Persona 5 , i mean the other games work just fine without it.
 

Lusankya

Member
Counting .99 as 1 you have to pay 63$ to get all the DLC (and get the swimsuit DLC in the first week for free).
I think I will get some of then, depending on how often I end up playing it. If I somehow going to enjoy it as much as EBA or Ouendan, then I guess I will get some of these fancy costumes.
 

Zolo

Member
I'd be surprised if we get a male navigator since I'm pretty sure in development, they probably determine more of the players would probably prefer listening to a female voice through most of the dungeon crawling than a male one.
 

QuadOpto

Member
But we've already had a male navigator anyway!

...Technically.

I mean, sure, Teddie was only the navigator for a third of the game but that shouldn't really discount him.
 

Lunar15

Member
We technically don't have to have a nagivator. I kind of forgot about that, though. Curious to see if and how they'll do it.
 

Weiss

Banned
Please don't let there be a new navigator. I don't need anyone to tell me that I'm super low on health and that Yosuke is poisoned.
 
Hashino's statements about P3/4 players feeling "right at home" lead me to believe they won't be shaking things up too much and we'll still have a navigator etc.

But on the other hand, it's been so many years in development I can understand if the team had a ton of new ideas and it ends up being a very different experience. It's all up in the air, considering we've seen like, 2 minutes of actual footage from the game.
 

Zolo

Member
So far, it looks to have everything a sequel should. It's the same type of game as Persona 3 and 4, but it looks to include a fair amount of new ideas while maybe changing some of the gameplay from the previous games without it being completely different (and hopefully are improvements).
 

Makio

Member
The Dungeon navigation this time is a big change compared to the previous games

I think something so small like the gender of the navigator or be or not a navigator is something can be change.

But seriously , Storywise works but what other function have Rise or Fuuka besides telling you how many enemies left or the weakness of a enemy. (Something you do in other SMT games using a menu).
 
The Dungeon navigation this time is a big change compared to the previous games

I think something so small like the gender of the navigator or be or not a navigator is something can be change.

But seriously , Storywise works but what other function have Rise or Fuuka besides telling you how many enemies left or the weakness of a enemy. (Something you do in other SMT games using a menu).
Rise breaks persona 4 golden
 

Xenoflare

Member
Rise breaks persona 4 golden

Yep,

Even though her buffs are random, but having power charge AND mind charge for the WHOLE PARTY is ridiculous.

Also free Samarecarm for senpai, and party wide invulnerability.

Sure, you can argue those are random and limited since it's tied to her S.link, but seriously she makes end game bosses trivial on top of a very easy game to begin with.
 
I've always been kinda partial to the navigators - even with their ability to state the obvious - so I'm kinda hoping they keep navigators in, and just make them relevant without making them overpowered.
 
All this Metal Gear hype has made me happier about the way Atlus has been treating the marketing for P5. I'm incredibly excited for Phantom Pain, but I already know so much about it and have seen so much story and gameplay. It makes me excited to be able to go into P5 fresh without seeing much of it beforehand.

They might go on some crazy info blow-out over the next month or so, I dunno, but at least it will be easy to avoid until release at this point.
 

Makio

Member
All this Metal Gear hype has made me happier about the way Atlus has been treating the marketing for P5. I'm incredibly excited for Phantom Pain, but I already know so much about it and have seen so much story and gameplay. It makes me excited to be able to go into P5 fresh without seeing much of it beforehand.

This

Yeah watch like 1-2 minutes of gameplay and maybe another 2-3 minutes in cutscenes ... for a game i really sure is going to be more than 30 hours long is really amazing and helps with hype.

Fun fact i started playing these games in 2012 , i watch the 16 minutes trailer for P3 after i beat the game and i cant believe they show almost everything ... i mean a lot of spoilers or mechanics without context , but still is kinda like "oh yeah i already see that in the trailer" if you play after watch that

I hate when they show some many things for games or movies...
 
Agreed - I really hope that release isn't too far off now, because I want to go in blind.

(I'll be fine with maybe knowing the party members from an Opening Video Trailer, but not much more than that.)
 

Hatchtag

Banned
I want a navigator. Makes going through dungeons feel more fun with a larger group.
I hope other characters randomly appearing on floors returns, too.
 

Olengie

Member
Im not going to expect anything so i can pleasantly surprised. Although, Im probably thinking about subconsciously
 

NCR Redslayer

NeoGAF's Vegeta
Vanilla Persona 4 was a breeze, it's part of the reason I'm reluctant to play P4G.

As a newcomer to the series and limited knowledge on rpg tactics, it was not.


Thank god for save rotations.
This makes me wonder how easy is gonna be Persona 5 ... easier as f*ck like P4 Golden / P3 Portable
or a little harder like P3 FES or P4.

I bet its the latter.
But it will most likely refine the difficulties so that it can be easier
after you do the hard parts
 

Squire

Banned
Please don't let there be a new navigator. I don't need anyone to tell me that I'm super low on health and that Yosuke is poisoned.

No, but you might want someone in your ears telling you to watch your six when you're out at night, pulling a B&E.

It's a game about thieves. A navigator makes more sense here than P3 or 4.
 
No, but you might want someone in your ears telling you to watch your six when you're out at night, pulling a B&E.

It's a game about thieves. A navigator makes more sense here than P3 or 4.

And with that, I'm now imagining the 'hacker in the unmarked van' trope from more recent spy films. That could be cool.
 

Moonlight

Banned
I think the likeliest thing if there's a change at all is letting you 'choose' your navigator out of your group, so you'd have your regular party composition plus whoever on reserve.

EDIT: 'Hacker in unmarked van' all of a sudden makes me want a designated navigator, though. That's too perfect.
 

Squire

Banned
And with that, I'm now imagining the 'hacker in the unmarked van' trope from more recent spy films. That could be cool.

I think their take on that could be really cool, especially when you consider how SMT has already mixed demons and tech together. It's not even uncharted territory for them.
 
That's kinda how Fuuka is now that i think of it

Replace the word 'van' with 'limo' and thats exactly how she is in arena/ultimax.

But yeah, especially with what seems to be an emphasis of people on their phones/technology from one of the earlier P5 trailers, I can see some sort of 'tech specialist' being involved.
 

daevious

Member
I think the likeliest thing if there's a change at all is letting you 'choose' your navigator out of your group, so you'd have your regular party composition plus whoever on reserve.

EDIT: 'Hacker in unmarked van' all of a sudden makes me want a designated navigator, though. That's too perfect.

Choosing your own Navigator is definitely something I'd like to see in P5.
 

MudoSkills

Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
I had a dream that randomly featured characters from P4 last night. Me, Chie and Kanji were getting beaten up by someone (they weren't using their Personas) while Yukiko stood there crying. Marie turned up (she looked like PJ Harvey for some reason) and stopped the assailant by attacking him with a lightning bolt. I thanked her, and then realised that everyone had her face.

I wish I was making this up to try and be funny but this is an actual dream that I had.
 
I had a dream that randomly featured characters from P4 last night. Me, Chie and Kanji were getting beaten up by someone (they weren't using their Personas) while Yukiko stood there crying. Marie turned up (she looked like PJ Harvey for some reason) and stopped the assailant by attacking him with a lightning bolt. I thanked her, and then realised that everyone had her face.

I wish I was making this up to try and be funny but this is an actual dream that I had.

Obviously the assailant was Atlus who is trying to beat the Persona 4 franchise (and the fans) into the ground, Marie had to appear and save the day, she's perfection after all.

This will probably be the plot of P4A three
 
The Dungeon navigation this time is a big change compared to the previous games

I think something so small like the gender of the navigator or be or not a navigator is something can be change.

But seriously , Storywise works but what other function have Rise or Fuuka besides telling you how many enemies left or the weakness of a enemy. (Something you do in other SMT games using a menu).

Dungeons seem more complex, with stealth and platforming elements. They probably felt the need to provide some amount of guidance to the player because of these new elements which only reinforces the need for a navigator.

Just a guess.
 
Are party members considered spoilers? My friend has already started a P5 blackout, since she argues that knowing about late-joining party members beforehand spoils their subplots before joining.

Examples she gave:
Naoto -
For the first half of the game, she acts like a minor antagonist to the IT, but knowing she joins later allows you to not take this subplot seriously. Also, since you know she gains a persona, you can assume she'll be thrown into the tv eventually, and she's most likely not the killer.
Fang from FFXIII -
For half the game she's presented as an antagonist working for the government, but knowing she joins the party later, you don't have to take her seriously either

I can kind of see her point with Naoto, so does anyone agree with this reasoning?
 
Are party members considered spoilers? My friend has already started a P5 blackout, since she argues that knowing about late-joining party members beforehand spoils their subplots before joining.

Examples she gave:
Naoto -
For the first half of the game, she acts like a minor antagonist to the IT, but knowing she joins later allows you to not take this subplot seriously. Also, since you know she gains a persona, you can assume she'll be thrown into the tv eventually, and she's most likely not the killer.
Fang from FFXIII -
For half the game she's presented as an antagonist working for the government, but knowing she joins the party later, you don't have to take her seriously either

I can kind of see her point with Naoto, so does anyone agree with this reasoning?

I think she has a point, yeah.
 

Lusankya

Member
Are party members considered spoilers? My friend has already started a P5 blackout, since she argues that knowing about late-joining party members beforehand spoils their subplots before joining.

Everything from official sources (trailers, web site, boxart, etc.) is not considered a spoiler.
 

Sophia

Member
Yeah, we basically can't post shit about P5 in here, but for everything new P5 related there is usually a separate thread.

?

The rules in the first post are pretty clearly defined. Don't embed any images beyond like basic character designs, and make sure you're spoiler tagging and clearly marking your plot points. Not really sure how that translates do "we basically can't post shit" :p

Are party members considered spoilers? My friend has already started a P5 blackout, since she argues that knowing about late-joining party members beforehand spoils their subplots before joining.

Examples she gave:
Naoto -
For the first half of the game, she acts like a minor antagonist to the IT, but knowing she joins later allows you to not take this subplot seriously. Also, since you know she gains a persona, you can assume she'll be thrown into the tv eventually, and she's most likely not the killer.
Fang from FFXIII -
For half the game she's presented as an antagonist working for the government, but knowing she joins the party later, you don't have to take her seriously either

I can kind of see her point with Naoto, so does anyone agree with this reasoning?

It's worth pointing out that the original Famtisu DVD for Persona 4 went specifically out of it's way to hide the fact that Naoto was a party member. So yeah, party members can definitely be spoilers.

Mind you, by the time Persona 4 actually came out, Naoto's existence as a party member wasn't a secret anymore. She was on the game's boxart, and quite clearly shown as a playable party member on the back and in the second opening.


See my post below.
 
It's worth pointing out that the original Famtisu DVD for Persona 4 went specifically out of it's way to hide the fact that Naoto was a party member. So yeah, party members can definitely be spoilers.

Mind you, by the time Persona 4 actually came out, Naoto's existence as a party member wasn't a secret anymore. She was on the game's boxart, and quite clearly shown as a playable party member on the back and in the second opening.
Interesting. Since I didn't find out about the Persona series until 2012, I was curious about how Naoto was handled pre-release.
 

Sophia

Member
Interesting. Since I didn't find out about the Persona series until 2012, I was curious about how Naoto was handled pre-release.

Nevermind. Seems I jumped the gun slightly. At 13:41 the trailer does briefly show Naoto as a party member. So her existence was never considered a spoiler at all.
 
I'd say party members - as long as they're shown in promotional info for the game - are not spoilers.

However those who don't want to know anything about them, and want to go in knowing as little as possible, may want to tread carefully these next few months.
 

JCX

Member
Yeah, Naoto
not being in the party yet
spoiled the storyline in the
Void Quest dungeon. I knew the game couldn't be over so I was wondering how they would handle Mitsuo not being the true culprit.
 
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