A Dead Diehard
Member
"Who the hell are you?"
"Mitsuru Kirijo, director of the Kirijo Group."
"Ah."
"I'm here to talk to you about the Shadow Operatives."
Not sure how I'd feel about something like that.
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Persona Community Thread |OT9| SPOILER TAGS OR DIE
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"Who the hell are you?"
"Mitsuru Kirijo, director of the Kirijo Group."
"Ah."
"I'm here to talk to you about the Shadow Operatives."
Not sure how I'd feel about something like that.
Theodoricos
Member
Hah, just reading that makes me nauseous. Atlus, please let P3 and P4 die in peace! (Keep in mind I say this as a fan who loves both of those games to death.)
Mediking
Member
I don't wanna play a first person Persona game that's a wannabe Etrain Odyssey game. That's one of my big problems with Persona Q. The second big problem is the crazy high difficulty that's a huge turnoff then there's how Aki isn't the same.... hahah we've been through this before. And Persona Q-2 should hopefully be on NX because better hardware.
Morning Star
Member
The shadow operatives need to stay in the shadows. I don't want to see any more of them.
I really don't care about the stories in the spinoffs. I get fun gameplay with characters I like in PQ and the Arena games, that more than makes up for poor stories that will never have a major impact on the main games.
It's not really an EO wannabe when it's the EO team making the game, haha. If anything, I'd want to see them give the characters EO style skill trees plus the sub Persona system if there's ever a second game.
EO is the best turn based RPG gameplay Atlus has, and best dungeons, so more of that would always be nice.
Satsuya K.
Neo Member
The main casts of P1 and P2 were able to summon multiple Personas (in Innocent Sin, Eikichi even mentions seeing Igor to switch Personas late in the game), it might be due to Philemon directly giving them the power and doesn't do so with the others in 3/4/5
A Dead Diehard
Member
I guess I should add that I don't really want crossover with P3/P4 in any P5 spinoff games, at least not right away.
Give me a P5 Arena with Xrd graphics and just the P5 cast plus a few unique characters for the story. That would be a fine starting roster.
The main reason only the MC can summon multiple Persona in 3/4/5 is likely for gameplay balance. It would be stupidly overpowered if we could change all our party member's skillsets to have the weaknesses we need in the One More system.
I would be surprised if they ever really go into it with how loosely connected 1 and 2 are to the modern games.
Give me a P5 Arena with Xrd graphics and just the P5 cast plus a few unique characters for the story. That would be a fine starting roster.
The main reason only the MC can summon multiple Persona in 3/4/5 is likely for gameplay balance. It would be stupidly overpowered if we could change all our party member's skillsets to have the weaknesses we need in the One More system.
I would be surprised if they ever really go into it with how loosely connected 1 and 2 are to the modern games.
Mediking
Member
What's your favorite EO game?
Or they would have to make the games much much harder if everyone could switch personas, and I don't think most people are down for that.
Connections to past games should remain oblique references or very quick cameos in my opinion. I'm not somebody who wants to wallow in fan service, I'd prefer new things. Since they spent a lot of time on getting all the art assets created for P5, I don't think we'll be waiting as long for the next console SMT or persona game, though.
TurnipFritters
Member
I've said this many times, but I really, really, really hope they've considered how they want to expand on the P5 cast in the inevitable spin-offs so they don't end up just spinning in their wheels like the P4 characters (or, god forbid, devolve into one note meme characters).
A Dead Diehard
Member
"It seems to challenge the Shadow Operatives... is to court death."
*Erebus turns around, grins*
*Erebus turns around, grins*
THAT'S gonna go over well. :/
Mediking
Member
The only two people who I would invite from the Investigation Team to help with the Phantom Thieves are
time skip Chie and time skip Naoto
They can't put more shit before the epilogue of Golden. I have had enough of the P4 cast honestly. I can do with more games that reuse all the new demon assets from P5 to make more console games faster.
Mediking
Member
A Dead Diehard
Member
Chie was too stupid to become a cop and proceeds to slum it as Naoto's bodyguard.
Seriously though, the more I look at this, the more I want them to stay the hell away.
Mediking
Member
But senpai...
Good time skip designs shouldn't go to waste and should be used at least once. But yeah... Hahahha I do get where you're coming from
Overall, EOIII. EOIV has stronger combat though thanks to better class balance.
Difficulty really isn't the problem, everyone with multiple persona would allow for four All Out Attacks in a row, or three and leaving the enemies dazed. Watching all those AoAs be very tedious. There are other problems, but it becomes not so different from the Press Turn system I guess.
Yeah, these assets are going to get reused for a long time. Maybe they will quickly move onto a P6 after this, I wouldn't mind it at all.
The fighting game fan in me will always want to see things I like get brought into the genre though, so I wouldn't say no to seeing the Persona Arena series continue with a P5 coat of paint.
Hate to (probably) break it to you: With the theme of getting society to change their ways and fight back what oppresses them, this is definitely going to be a test to see if humanity deserves to survive.
The phantom thieves can't keep doing this forever, so it'll probably end in a way where the thieves say "yeah, humanity was weak before, but we've inspired them to stand up for themselves. We stole the future BACK! YEAH!!!" and then they'll beat the final boss and not have to use their powers again.
Until the next high quality Arena story.
Goes without saying.
As much as I love the P3 and P4 cast, I agree it's time to move on. We've had about a decade with them. Everything has its time. That being said, I still wouldn't be surprised to see them in future spin-off stuff.
I agree that
I agree that
Chie and Naoto's are the best of the bunch. Yukiko... just because you decided to stay at the inn doesn't mean you gotta become a middle-aged housewife overnight! Yosuke went full giraffe... and Kanji... oh Kanji why... like, I understand the story reasons but did he have to change that dramatically? lol
KoroEunectes
Member
I don't mind the spin offs but I think they should just stop with making them all canon to the series.
Would rather see something that is pretty self contained & doesn't really have an impact on the story of future mainline games.
I do.
It's stupid.
Agreed.
Honestly I think they are one the worst things that they introduced in Arena.
Now every Persona game that involves shadows has people wondering why the shadow operatives don't show up and solve the problem themselves.
At least stuff like PQ is self contained and most of the plot points are solved within the game itself.
A Dead Diehard
Member
This chat about the Shadow Operative made me wonder about if some hint about the Kirijou/Nanjou group is going to be in the game. Would be nice, but if there is nothing, I will be okay anyway.
The best outcome to avoid have a crossover with the Shadow Operative, in any case, is to know they were defeated/disabled time ago.
A Dead Diehard
Member
That's not good at all!
"Hey, everyone you know from the previous games? They got wiped the fuck out! Have fun."
CrimsonFist
Member
The best way for P5 to handle the shadow operatives is
To completely ignore them
They'll pull a Chrono Cross and we'll just see all their ghosts on a beach.
Speaking of returning characters, when do I get my game with
Or not, I haven't given it much thought honestly. 
grown up, gun-wielding, chain-smoking Nanako, a rookie detective who moves to the city to solve a case her father had been working on before his mysterious disappearance? As Nanako gets closer to the truth, will she be able to find her father and learn to master her strange new powers?!
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Would someone gif that Title screen, please?
Also, I kinda found the talking to be a little annoying.
Also, I kinda found the talking to be a little annoying.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Christ, man! It's only been four years!
Just in case somebody wants to know what the marquee says:
"This story is a work of fiction."
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Well...Thereitis.gif
Persona 2, red vs red. The jokers shall finally meet.
Probably something lame like a mish-mash of 3 and 4 characters like someone else already suggested.
You guys sleeping on Persona 5 Dancing in the Rain though. Those moves in the first trailer were clearly them practicing for the big stage.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
Oh shit! we're OT9.
If they waste their time on another dance game, I will fucking riot.
Mobile Suit Gooch
Grundle: The Awakening
They should try Muosu or whatever.
Morning Star
Member
I could see that working to some extent. With a similar vibe to P4GA's version of Yu's awakening.
I prefer Persona 5: Stealing the Dance Floor.
Not sure if known already but P5 will have NEO support
That's not what that image is about. It's showcasing upcoming PS4 titles.
I'm coming with you.
For any one who'd be interested, here's a long ass Hashino interview about Persona 5.