Given how FES added in the Answer and Aigis is central in that, its not that surprising she'd be prominent.
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Given how FES added in the Answer and Aigis is central in that, its not that surprising she'd be prominent.
A Dead Diehard
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So according to Gematsu, the character featured in the Project Re Fantasy artwork "isn’t necessarily the hero".
So... still a chance? *shrug*
http://gematsu.com/2016/12/first-details-atlus-new-fantasy-rpg-project-re-fantasy
Ouch.
So... still a chance? *shrug*
http://gematsu.com/2016/12/first-details-atlus-new-fantasy-rpg-project-re-fantasy
Ouch.
They're still going over concepts, so nothing's really clad in stone. If Japanese consumers respond positively to the concept idea of a female protagonist, they might decide to go that way though?
Looks like the protagonist was identified.
RIP elf girl protagonist ;_;
Anyways:
So I guess we will still learn about that "will be finished in three years" game they talked about two and a half years ago.
TurnipFritters
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Dang and I was expecting something concrete but it turns out the game isn't even out of the conceptual stages yet.
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She's this week's covergirl
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She's this week's covergirl
Dang and I was expecting something concrete but it turns out the game isn't even out of the conceptual stages yet.
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She's this week's covergirl
At this point, I just want this character to be in the game at all. It's such a good design but I'm worried that Atlus isn't going to capitalize on how this image is going to shape public opinion/discourse from here out.
TurnipFritters
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She's* featured in all of the concept art in the famitsu article except one piece, so I figure it's a design that Soejima is partial to.
*A red haired woman in scale mail anyway
The blonde haired kid on the back of the horse is likely the protagonist - the subtitle of the game is apparently A Fool's Journey Begins and he shares iconography of the Fool tarot card.
But who knows what'll happen between now and six years from now when the game is finally released.
*A red haired woman in scale mail anyway
The blonde haired kid on the back of the horse is likely the protagonist - the subtitle of the game is apparently A Fool's Journey Begins and he shares iconography of the Fool tarot card.
But who knows what'll happen between now and six years from now when the game is finally released.
A Dead Diehard
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Welp! Time to draw parallels to past works!
So she's the Chariot?
TurnipFritters
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An alternate take might be that Red is the protagonist/player character and the Fool is someone she's protecting/escorting somewhere (she is, after all, the one driving the horse while the Fool sleeps).
There's a piece where several characters are sitting in the back of a wagon - there's a dog (the studio zero logo features the fool and a dog), and Red, and a character who could be The Fool, and two older fighter looking dudes. So even with the tarot motif, it's sort of distinguishing itself from the Persona series.
This is a lot of reading into concept art for a game that isn't even really in development yet, but surely Hashino and pals have some idea of what they want the game to be like and including concept art to that end.
There's a piece where several characters are sitting in the back of a wagon - there's a dog (the studio zero logo features the fool and a dog), and Red, and a character who could be The Fool, and two older fighter looking dudes. So even with the tarot motif, it's sort of distinguishing itself from the Persona series.
This is a lot of reading into concept art for a game that isn't even really in development yet, but surely Hashino and pals have some idea of what they want the game to be like and including concept art to that end.
TurnipFritters
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The meaning of "We haven't decided on a platform":
- Normal End: We want to do a PS3/PS4 game but budgetary concerns may mean it ends up as a Vita game
- Bad End: We're making a smartphone game
- Nier Ending D: It's a browser game
TurnipFritters
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Her outfit in the horse picture does have puffy sleeves like the logo, and it's seemingly her spear the bag is tied to...
Bad and Nier Ending D are impossible; Hashino described it as a "challenge" so it's incredibly doubtful he'd half ass it. He even assembled the 3 amigos.
I think Meguro will only be partially involved. I don't think he'll be the primary composer. If the concept art isn't being deceptive, the game is full on medieval fantasy, which Meguro has no experience with. He rarely uses real instruments, and has no real experience creating string-based songs, which would absolutely be necessary.
I think he'll be doing things like the opening theme, battle themes etc.
Seems like Soejima is entrenched in it though. Which is lovely.
Why is that Nier Ending D? Ending D was at least ingame content. Nier Ending E would be much more appropriate since that one is exclusive to a guide book, but possibly the one that Automata is based on.
TurnipFritters
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I'm excited for this, if only because it lets them try something new. There are a lot of restrictions as far as what a Persona game is and must include (you're a high school transfer student who shows up at the beginning of your second year, you go through the calendar, you operate in one city, etc etc) and while that's not necessarily a criticism of the Persona series, it'll be nice to see what they can do outside that framework, especially if this is more ambitious than Catherine.
This is all assuming it won't just be Fantasy Persona, and if it is then they damn well better make new designs for the Personas/Demons because like half of what they're using are over twenty years old at this point.
It erases your save file.
This is all assuming it won't just be Fantasy Persona, and if it is then they damn well better make new designs for the Personas/Demons because like half of what they're using are over twenty years old at this point.
It erases your save file.
I know that, I just don't see how that correlates to a browser game.
A Dead Diehard
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Because it's bad?
TurnipFritters
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Because forcing the player to get 100% then deleting their save file is worse than just a glorified game over sequence, hope that helps.
CrimsonFist
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Remember when Etrian V was announced without a platform, and then in a shocking and unexpected development it turned out to be for 3DS.
I don't know, I really didn't mind that Nier erased my save file.
That's pretty good for only having one proper reference image. I'm impressed with how you got the detail to her hair on point.
That being said, I think the eyes are a bit off. Elf lady's eyes narrow a bit more as they reach her ears.
A Dead Diehard
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I mean "bad" as in "depressing". I totally get the appeal of that ending.
So, looking at the images that we have, I think the order is horseback > cart > cover image. The scalemail tunic is the only consistent piece of clothing, so I feel like it might have some significance.
If the images mean anything, I think they show her growth as a character (albeit very broadly).
The first one has her setting off for her journey, the second has her having fallen in with a group of bandit-types, whilst the cover image has her having joined some sect of knights.
The outlier is the dragon image, and I'm unsure how it ties in.
Also, the images are distinct and focused, so I think the game is further into development than some people may be thinking (as in, not only just starting).
Also I love that Soejima is maintaining the painting style. Looks wonderful.
If the images mean anything, I think they show her growth as a character (albeit very broadly).
The first one has her setting off for her journey, the second has her having fallen in with a group of bandit-types, whilst the cover image has her having joined some sect of knights.
The outlier is the dragon image, and I'm unsure how it ties in.
Also, the images are distinct and focused, so I think the game is further into development than some people may be thinking (as in, not only just starting).
Also I love that Soejima is maintaining the painting style. Looks wonderful.
Im surprised is not Naoto in armor or with elf ears . Good piece
Idk why people still so fixed about this being a phone game , Hashino say the game is made for people who loves home consoles and Atlus games in the worse case scenario this ends up in 3ds or Vita (hahaha) .... seems like a Switch / PS4 game knowing Atlus
(But there again phones are the "future" so i wouldnt be surprise)
Huh? Meguro's composition for Strange Journey was largely string based. Honestly most of Strange Journey's OST could pass quite well in "medieval fantasy" setting. He's perfectly capable, imo.
Not sure about the real instruments part though, lol. But I don't know a single Atlus composer that ever really uses real instruments.
Would be sweet if this new RPG gets a beautiful blend of guitar + symphonic orchestra that Bravely Default was blessed with.
I... guess? I think of Strange Journey's OST to be primarily drums and chanting. It uses strings in a weird way. I'm not saying you're wrong, but it's not really what I meant.
Also Kitajoh used real unstruments on all of his P4 Never More remixes. Maybe the solution is to have Meguro compose tracks and then Kitajoh arrange them. I'd be down with that.
CrimsonFist
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Well apparently whatever the video of the game we're getting during the stream tomorrow will be, it will have Meguro composed BGM.
Meguro seems to enjoy trying new things, ala Strange Journey and Catherine. I would personally love to see him tackle this new theme as well.
You can definitely tell my bias here huh lol. And I'm not a fan of Kitajoh's works at all :-( Maybe I'm just basing him off of the P4A OST.
Mediking
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Dang and I was expecting something concrete but it turns out the game isn't even out of the conceptual stages yet.
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She's this week's covergirl
Best case scenario for me.....
This is a PS4/Switch game.
Coming 2018-2019-2020.
Female protagonist.
Persona 5 expansion in 2018. Yes, I really do want a P5 expansion. I'd pay money for a extra dungeon or hidden secret plot line.
1. I see is gonna be one console or other for some reason i cant feel this be multi plat my money in PS4
2. If not delays feels like a late 2018 in Japan to me
3. Would love had her as protag , include talking personality fixed character , Vincent is great for this reason i dont want another blank "im in the game" character ... no matter if is the chick or the blonde dude.
4. I feel they gonna throw some spinoff before, but there a full PS4 version of P5 is a given at some point since the
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I really trust Meguro in this if he is the main composer , but i get Dantis point for a game it looks like that you can expect the soundtrack sounds something like this
But pretty sure Meguro or the other Atlus composers can do better than some random guitar solos which i dont mind at all , but can be unfitting for a fantasy setting.
They gonna deliver , curious about the music and battle system (hopefully action based not turns).
Mediking
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Hey, Makio!!!!
After being blown away by the awesome Nier Automata demo... I gotta agree on hoping this is action based. I hope this new game is action based but still has Atlus' high class turn based charm.
Also agree with everything else you said too.
If I'm remembering correctly, they only do that for MegaTen games, and this doesn't belong to that franchise. It feels like it's been forever since Altus has done a game outside of MegaTen and EO, so I'm excited.
That would be great if that the case, unless there some character creation feature like in the last FE or Mass Effect i dont care much about those "blank" insert mc ... love to see a complete / established MC like in the majority of games
Being like that or being that elf lady is the first step to distance the game from SMT - Persona comparisons since the series are ruled by male MC (Hi Maya and NC Minako)
And yeah i was really excited where they announce this because i was dead sure their next game announcement was gonna be the next Persona "remake" or spinoff so it was a great surprise see they trying something new hopefully diferent and stay away of already established series , trends and such in a lot of things
CrimsonFist
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Via Atlus USA
So sounds like Hashino is off Persona for the near future at least.
I kind of read that as "Hashino is doing other stuff, but the Persona Team is still on hand to do updated versions, spinoffs, and the like until he's ready to do Persona 6."
I don't think Hashino is coming back guys. Just like he isn't coming back to mainline SMT.
We'll maybe see him listed as producer for P6 but I honestly believe this is him moving on from the franchise in a directorial role. We'll see.
It's fucking crazy that we're talking about this and P5 is still months away from an English release.
We'll maybe see him listed as producer for P6 but I honestly believe this is him moving on from the franchise in a directorial role. We'll see.
It's fucking crazy that we're talking about this and P5 is still months away from an English release.
CrimsonFist
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I don't think this is an ingame character, but linking just to be safe:
Antagonist of a real world Persona 5 themed treasure hunt in Tokyo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0R8ecwUUAAvFbY.jpg
Antagonist of a real world Persona 5 themed treasure hunt in Tokyo: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0R8ecwUUAAvFbY.jpg
A Dead Diehard
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the_sun_king
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I kind of read that as "Hashino is doing other stuff, but the Persona Team is still on hand to do updated versions, spinoffs, and the like until he's ready to do Persona 6."
Same.
I feel like the direction of the Persona series is going to go down a much less interesting path over the next few years.
But that's fine, because we at least know why and what Hashino and co. are doing.
I'll play the spinoffs, but man, the bad stories are going to cut me deep.
But that's fine, because we at least know why and what Hashino and co. are doing.
I'll play the spinoffs, but man, the bad stories are going to cut me deep.
the_sun_king
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I just hope it's not another 8 years of spinoffs/milking of one title before we get the next mainline entry.
I don't think I want a main title by the B Team.
At most, a side-sequel would be what I'd want. Persona 6 deserves better than the Shadow Operatives.