Sakura
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I'll believe it when I see it.
Persona Localization interview with Yu Namba
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I'll believe it when I see it.
Thanks for the clarification!
Silver Arrows
Banned
Agreed. When it's been said that JPN office doesn't believe or trust the US office to do anything, and considers them, for all intensive purposes, stupid babies who deserve no respect, what Hardin says doesn't instill much confidence anymore.
It's pretty obvious that the only reason Hardin keeps saying 2015 is because he knows that Atlus JPN will have his hide if he says anymore. For that, I really believe that 2015 is the release date, and NA will get it in the first three months of 2016.
Seriously. And I never understand the "they haven't shown anything" aspect. We've seen everything in the US that people in Japan have seen. It's not like we are waiting for a commercial on TV or something.
this is both why I come to GAF and what I was secretly hoping for when seeing this thread earlier.
Coffee Dog
Banned
Cool, thanks for clarifying!
Well, technically everything except for PV02 and the developer magazine interviews.
Sakura
Member
They haven't shown any video or even a single screenshot of an English build as far as I am aware.
You'd think the trailer they showed at E3 just last month could've had footage from an English build, or at least the screenshots on their site.
I'm not saying it definitely won't be out this year, but it doesn't exactly instil confidence that this is a game supposedly coming out in less than like 5 months or so.
All games are on track for their scheduled release until, you know, they aren't any more.
Silver Arrows
Banned
And the trailer that was shown at E3 was essentially PV01 but with the English screen crawls translated. Nothing else.
Atlus JPN has handcuffed USA, that much is certain.
Sakura
Member
Exactly.
Which is why I am not confident in a 2015 release for NA.
Hell I'm not even entirely confident in a 2015 release for Japan, it was already delayed once.
cj_iwakura
Member
Atlus JPN not giving PV02 to Atlus USA for E3 just to push copies of P4D was the height of stupidity.
I believe it may come out 2015. but be realistic. It's a game. It's a game still in development. Things happen.
I believe it may come out 2015. but be realistic. It's a game. It's a game still in development. Things happen.
Silver Arrows
Banned
Japan certainly is coming along faster then the US build is. If I had to guess, with 5 months in the year and the stuff we've seen, They're probably at a 75-80% completion rate.
But still, this entire episode of Atlus JPN basically saying fuck you to any sort of chances they've had to advertise and get the word out (culminating in the complete no-show at E3, bar a barely translated trailer) has soured my opinion on them.
And more people should be giving them shit for it. A golden opportunity pissed away for a game that frankly, nobody except diehards care for. And even then, the spinoff fatigue presented by P4 is growing mighty fast.
semiconscious
Member
yeah, while i'm happy for those who continue to believe 'atlus as usual', nothing whatsoever about a major game only 5 months away? i don't think so...
Because Atlus Japan has consistently failed at marketing their biggest game of all time.
They announced it nearly two years ago. We should have a release date by now. We should have a pretty firm idea of what the game is going to be about. Instead all we've gotten in the last six months are two teaser trailers, one of which hasn't been officially revealed yet because Atlus was insistent on selling a few dozen more copies of some shitty dancing game.
petethepanda
Member
Not entirely on topic, but have they said whether or not they're sticking with a silent-ish protagonist again? I've been hoping they don't go that way for a while now but it'll be particularly hard after Catherine.
Haha, man, some people get pretty ridiculous when it comes to this.
P5 is coming this year. How many fucking times do people have to be told 2015 before they accept it?They've clarified 2015 Japan and US many, many, many times already.
I literally won't fully believe it until it comes out.
Because as time goes on it gets harder to believe them. We're down to 5 months for them to announce and release both the JP and NA releases, and that assumes they're ok with a late Dec release. Realistically, it's more like 4 months. P5 is likely to be one long game, and JRPGs aren't known for quick localizations. It's possible that there's going to be an unusually quick localization or the JP release will be some quick release, but the simplest, and in my opinion most likely explanation is that the US branch hasn't been given the ok to officially delay it yet, so they can only give the last official answer: 2015.
MikeE21286
Member
Have they ever states when they started working on P5?
I mean P4 came out in 2008 and it obviously wasn't right after. But man it's been a long time....
I mean P4 came out in 2008 and it obviously wasn't right after. But man it's been a long time....
P5 is coming this year. How many fucking times do people have to be told 2015 before they accept it?
Because no one will accept it and will continuously say "bullshit" until they see proof.
So far from what we have seen he is silent.
I'm pretty happy about the low-key approach, personally. I'd rather go into the game knowing as little about it as possible. But then I obviously don't place as much importance in marketing as you do.
This is a company that does cool special editions for its games, slathers its remakes with love and attention, and localizes EVERYTHING. I'm willing to cut them a little slack for their silence until they're ready.
2016
I've said this in the past and I'll say it again: I've tried preordering Persona 5 at gamestop four different times the past two months and each time they keep telling me it's not in their system at all. Can't preorder it. For a game supposedly coming out within five months, you'd think retailers would have it in their systems as something to preorder.
So, intil I see a release date for 2015 that I can preorder for, I'm calling BS on it coming this year.
P5 is coming this year. How many fucking times do people have to be told 2015 before they accept it?
I've said this in the past and I'll say it again: I've tried preordering Persona 5 at gamestop four different times the past two months and each time they keep telling me it's not in their system at all. Can't preorder it. For a game supposedly coming out within five months, you'd think retailers would have it in their systems as something to preorder.
So, intil I see a release date for 2015 that I can preorder for, I'm calling BS on it coming this year.
2010. History of Persona 5 reports from July 20, 2009 to March 17, 2013.
Between 2008 and now, P Studio have worked on:
- Catherine
- Persona 4 Golden
- Persona 4 Arena
- Persona 4 Arena Ultimax
- Persona Q
- Persona 4: Dancing All Night
- Persona 1 Portable
- Persona 2 IS Portable
- Persona 2 EP Portable
- Persona 3 Portable
- Persona 5
Huh? The only time we've heard any of the characters speak is during the battle sequence in PV02, and he talks there like the rest of his teammates. Hell, Persona 5's PV01 was introduced by the main protagonist screaming at the crowd at Persona Super Live.
From what we've seen, it would be the opposite of what you're saying.
DannyDanger
Member
Yo bro, localize yakuza 0 next
meltingparappa
Member
If there was ever a need to change an alarmist title thread, this would be it.
Or the topic just slowly dies because there's no news to be had here.
And yet, I'm aware I'm bumping it.
What a life of contradictions I lead.
Or the topic just slowly dies because there's no news to be had here.
And yet, I'm aware I'm bumping it.
What a life of contradictions I lead.
Silver Arrows
Banned
P5 is coming this year. How many fucking times do people have to be told 2015 before they accept it?
Considering that if anybody says anything else means they probably get their ass fired by Atlus JPN, I don't think that's to be believed anymore.
The US branch essentially has no power, from what I've gathered that isn't revolving around EU and NA advertising, and localizing. So if there is a delay, it will be coming from only the JPN branch.
SatelliteOfLove
Member
Pretty much.
cj_iwakura
Member
Did you miss the ex-Atlus staffer who said Atlus JP constantly gave them the shaft? There's conspiracy theories, then there's cold hard facts.
You must be sick having to say 2015 over and over again, haha. Everyone is so unbelieving, but I have faith in you guys!
Persona 4 was announced (barebones announcement, no info other than platform) in December 2007 and released in July 2008. They didn't show the first media or trailer until March 2008. That's a 4 month promotional window. As to how this pertains to the English version, well, they're not going to show much from the English version when promotion hasn't even ramped up for the Japanese one. There's no reason at all to doubt Atlus employees telling you over and over that it'll be out this year.
zerokoolpsx
Member
Only 5 months left in 2015. My belief is dwindling fast.
cj_iwakura
Member
Japan, sure. But localization? That's a different story. I believe them too,but still, it's a tall claim. Catherine took a LOT longer after launch, and it wasn't even an RPG.
OuterLimits
Member
Eh. I don't have much faith in the 2015 release, but I'm hoping it happens. Considering even P4 Dancing All Night has a 3 month gap between Japan and NA release. Persona Q had a 5 month difference.
Sakura
Member
Sure. But we also got the release date in March too, 4 months before the game came out.
Meanwhile there are only 5 months left in the year, and not only do we not have a Japanese release date yet, but we're supposed to believe the NA release will be out this year too?
It's hardly impossible, but I think the NA release not coming until 2016 is a very real possibility.
Simultaneous localization is not such a mysterious thing. Plenty of companies manage to do it with every single game they release (Assassin's Creed games release in 10+ languages simultaneously every single time), and even Atlus USA is not a stranger to it. Trauma Team was released in NA a whole month before it was released in Japan, and up to that point, it had more voice acting than any game they had released by far, including a fully-fledged adventure game with tons of text.
It's definitely prudent for them to do it for their largest release in ages, and if it's worked into the process from the start, there's no reason why they couldn't.
the_sun_king
Member
Persona 4's North American release was officially announced at Anime Expo back in July of 2008, only a few days before it was released in Japan. Here's a recording from the panel when its release date was revealed.
I don't think (well, hope) we'll get a five month gap in between the JPN and NA releases for P5 as Atlus and the times have changed significantly since 2008. The fact that we've gotten a window (i.e. 2015) for P5 in NA is proof that things are different. Look at the shortened gaps between JPN and NA releases of other Atlus titles like Shin Megami Tensei IV within the last few years... It's also a lot more common for English localizations to occur these days during production of a game before it's even released in Japan.
Anyways, I agree with a post above that the thread title should be changed.
Relax. How is what you're saying at all related to what I replied to?
See, this is exactly what I mean. It's like you guys are Atlus investors, and I'm the one who's supposed to be obsessed about everything concerning them. I discuss this stuff, but some people get so emotional about it, it's just funny.
I wouldn't be surprised if this gets delayed to late Q1 in the US, the timings for a game supposed to be coming in a few months are a bit off and that's why people are so negative, but this is a japanese publisher used to deal with fans of their titles (which usually are not mass market games) in their own way.
I'd wait until september, TGS time, before making conclusions. Also I think that OP is reading too much in the interview, I'm not seeing any evidence of the fact that localization work is still not started. English trailer is already a first form of localization for example. But probably they still have a lot of the work to do.
I'd wait until september, TGS time, before making conclusions. Also I think that OP is reading too much in the interview, I'm not seeing any evidence of the fact that localization work is still not started. English trailer is already a first form of localization for example. But probably they still have a lot of the work to do.
cj_iwakura
Member
Because it's a clear sign that Atlus JP doesn't want to help this get the publicity it should. They're too concerned about the JP market, and not the global.
Sure, that's a perspective. It doesn't mean we should have a release date by now. It doesn't mean we should know more about the game by now (in fact, it's fairly refreshing that so little about the game's been shown). It doesn't mean that the dancing game is shitty (most people who have actually played it instead of talking out of thin air have enjoyed it) or that the P5 bonus disc sold only very few additional copies.
cj_iwakura
Member
Of course not, I think it looks great. Do you really think it justified sitting on a trailer instead of widely releasing it?