Maybe, but it's the system we agreed to. That's what makes it so damning. Regardless of anything else, this is the ruleset we as a people agreed to follow.
I'd willing to throw out those rules to prevent a Trump presidency, but I acknowledge it would be illegitimate as fuck.
I signed it with less than zero percent chance that this will happen.
Could you imagine the violent protests if it went down?
Fuck off, stop crying and move the fuck on.
Imagine the amount of blood spilt in this country if this were to happen. Riots in mass would happen across the country, and the public's trust in the system would come to an end.
No, it's asking for the EC to do their fucking jobs and their entire fucking purpose that is preventing a demagogue like Trump that does not have the popular vote from becoming president.
They won't though, and that just confirms how much of a shit system the EC is. It has no purpose to exist.
good god @ the complacency in this thread.
"Trump won according to a broken ruleset that was devised to protect slaveholders? Well, better just accept it then, no choice."
Wouldn't it be much more easier to impeach him?
Look at all the stuff he said during the debate, surely Americans can try him there.
But regardless, you're still going to end up with a Republican. If Trump steps down, then Mike Pence is going to be president regardless.
As we reminded people over and over when Obama and the Democrats took back the government in 08' - elections have consequences.
Democracy is only okay when it goes my way.
That means revolution and that means immediate violence and possibly civil war.
That seems like a great precedence to set. No Thanks.
What indication do you have that Trump will suspend elections? I'm sure we'd be talking about that quite a bit if realistic people thought this was a possible outcome.ANd I get that.
The problem is that the consequences of this election might end up with no election in 2020. Trump is a fascist. A fairly elected democratic fascist, but that will not stop him from leading the country to ruin.
If this was romney or another republican, I would totally agree. But I do not see a future with the foundation of democracy shaken to it's core to be a worse future than one lead by President Trump.
good god @ the complacency in this thread.
"Trump won according to a broken ruleset that was devised to protect slaveholders? Well, better just accept it then, no choice."
You didn't agree to that system. You where simply born in it. Its a bad system and it caused controversies before (outside of USA too)
Every bodies vote should be equal but it is what is it, and only the government can change that rule (can't see it happen under Trumpy though)
You can apply that to a whole lot more than our electoral system. Should we throw everything away? Burn it to the ground and hope the victors of the bloodbath fashion together something better?
Yeah, screw it, let's just allow abortion to become illegal again, let's just rescind gay marriage, Trump won fair and square after all.
Fuck the environment, climate change isn't real anyway. Everyone should just stop whining.
You wouldn't have seen me on board with this for President Romney. Or President McCain. Or second term Bush.
None of them made civil rights violations a foundation of their platform, nor did they have a history of flagrant criminality.
Donald Trump is not generic R, and we're not just pissy because "our team lost"
So my girlfriend should stop crying because the government assistance her mom and sister depend on is about the get blown away?Fuck off, stop crying and move the fuck on.
Imagine the amount of blood spilt in this country if this were to happen. Riots in mass would happen across the country, and the public's trust in the system would come to an end.
This has been the mentality of Republicans for years so why can't Democrats do the same?
It would be civil war.
I mean you think the riots are bad now, this would make people that have never rioted before lose their **** and go to war.
yes.
still probably less violent than a Trump presidency.
The people opposed to this are the same who think minorities should take the treatment they are now experiencing laying down. That the disabled should take their services being stripped laying down. That LGBT groups just shut up when Mike Pence takes everything from them. It makes me fucking sick. You should all be ashamed.
I signed it with less than zero percent chance that this will happen.
Could you imagine the violent protests if it went down?
Trump already set foot in the White House, talked to Obama, is preparing for a transition of power and Clinton has conceded. It's not gonna happen, no way around it
So why not use this most undemocratic of our institutions to ensure a democratic result?
What indication do you have that Trump will suspend elections? I'm sure we'd be talking about that quite a bit if realistic people thought this was a possible outcome.