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Phil Lord & Christopher Miller To Direct ‘Martian’ Author's New Novel ‘Artemis'

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Inferno313

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EXCLUSIVE: Phil Lord & Christopher Miller have signed on to develop to direct Artemis, the novel by The Martian author Andy Weir that Fox and New Regency acquired in a splashy deal in May. Simon Kinberg and Aditya Sood will produce through Genre Films and Steve Asbell is overseeing for the studio. The book will be published November 17 by Crown, and Lord & Miller will work with the studio to set a writer to turn Weir’s latest sci-fi entry into a script.
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Morts

Member
Wow, the book isn't even out yet. I really enjoyed The Martian but i dont know what to expect from Artemis.
 
Grizzlyjin

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Hmm. Interesting that they're directing but not adapting the screenplay. Maybe everyone just wants to find someone more experienced with that. Weird choice. Maybe they're trying to pull an Adam McKay.
 
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NealMcCauley

Member
Plot sounds like something Lord and Miller can have fun with.

Crown describes Artemis as an adrenaline-charged crime caper that features smart, detailed world-building based on real science. It centers on Jasmine Bashara, aka Jazz, just another too-smart, directionless twentysomething chafing at the constraints of her small town and dreaming of a better life. Except the small town happens to be named Artemis—and it’s the first and only city on the moon. She’s got debts to pay, her job as a porter barely covers the rent, and her budding career as a smuggler isn’t exactly setting her up as a kingpin, much to her disappointment. So when the chance at a life-changing score drops in her lap, Jazz can’t say no, and she finds herself in the middle of a conspiracy for control of Artemis itself.
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Shadowhelper

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Inferno313 said:
... Am I missing something?
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With the right film makers, the original source can be exceeded. Its pretty common.

Those Mathew Vaughn movies are much better than the nightmarish Mark Millar comics.

The book Martian itself is way more boring and tedious than the movie. Its because its way more hard sci fi than the movie. The book is like 75% mathematical resource management and 10% Nasa. The movie was completely different. Much more about the people and not the boring math.

I am sure this book will be another endurance test of boring and irrelevant details.
 
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Prophet Steve

Member
Shadowhelper said:
With the right film makers, the original source can be exceeded. Its pretty common.

Those Mathew Vaughn movies are much better than the nightmarish Mark Millar comics.

The book Martian itself is way more boring and tedious than the movie. Its because its way more hard sci fi than the movie. The book is like 75% mathematical resource management and 10% Nasa. The movie was completely different. Much more about the people and not the boring math.

I am sure this book will be another endurance test of boring and irrelevant details.
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You are aware that there are a lot of people that think otherwise right? And a lot of people that even enjoy the science in The Martian.

Hell, even a lot of people that prefer the book.

And uh... how is hard scifi morally bankrupt?
 
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Shadowhelper

Banned
Prophet Steve said:
You are aware that there are a lot of people that think otherwise right? And a lot of people that even enjoy the science in The Martian.

Hell, even a lot of people that prefer the book.

And uh... how is hard scifi morally bankrupt?
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The only people who prefer the book are the variety who tend to believe the book is always better. The science in the books is interesting at first, but the mathematical minutae makes up the bulk of the book. It's an absolute nightmare of a book. A punishment. A lot of people enjoying it doesn't make it good story telling.

I think most people would certainly concede the movie is far superior.

Well it doesn't have to be morally bankrupt, but yes, of course hard sci fi tends to be morally bankrupt. How could it not, being concerned with technology and scientific accuracy rather than people.

But hard sci fi is mostly a disgraceful genre that is extremely tedious and obsessed with stupid details, all of which tends to reflect the detached morals of its readers, more concerned about endless scientific details and the future of technology than humanity.

I think the Martian movie versus the book is a perfect example. The movie Martian is more a celebration of coming together and is how you can survive with perseverance. The book is how you have to be great at math to survive. The worst part of the book is how extraordinarily boring it is. It's almost objectively bad. But I get it appeals to some people. Just don't claim its good.
 
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iamcool388

Member
hydruxo said:
Yep! He's been attached for ages but it was kind of in development hell until recently when Judi Dench got cast a week or so ago.
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That is great news! I wonder who she could be playing, searched online but didnt find anything. Could she be playing a female Root?

Either way... cant wait, I have faith in Branagh!

P.S. The Butler vs Troll scene is going to be epic!
 
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Ignatz Mouse

Banned
News flash-- the novel The Martian has all the same human character stuff as the movie.

News Flash pt 2-- Andy Weir wrote a great "soft" sci-fi short story which is pretty much just about the nature of people.
 
Falchion

Falchion

Member
I was going to say I hadn't even heard of this one but then I saw it wasn't even out yet. Interesting to see what this will look like.
 
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Boem

Member
Shadowhelper said:
Yeah they probably could.

But the book sounds like absolute hell. Based on real science? Good grief. Is there anything more tedious or morally bankrupt than hard sci fi?
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I don't think the term "morally bankrupt" means what you think it means.
 
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wetflame

Pizza Dog
Shadowhelper said:
The only people who prefer the book are the variety who tend to believe the book is always better. The science in the books is interesting at first, but the mathematical minutae makes up the bulk of the book. It's an absolute nightmare of a book. A punishment. A lot of people enjoying it doesn't make it good story telling.

I think most people would certainly concede the movie is far superior.

Well it doesn't have to be morally bankrupt, but yes, of course hard sci fi tends to be morally bankrupt. How could it not, being concerned with technology and scientific accuracy rather than people.

But hard sci fi is mostly a disgraceful genre that is extremely tedious and obsessed with stupid details, all of which tends to reflect the detached morals of its readers, more concerned about endless scientific details and the future of technology than humanity.

I think the Martian movie versus the book is a perfect example. The movie Martian is more a celebration of coming together and is how you can survive with perseverance. The book is how you have to be great at math to survive. The worst part of the book is how extraordinarily boring it is. It's almost objectively bad. But I get it appeals to some people. Just don't claim its good.
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What does doing math have to do with morality? The entire point of the story in both book and film form is "I need to work out how i'm going to survive, and I'm a scientist, so I'm going to use science to fix this". I really don't think that morally bankrupt is the argument you're looking for, sounds like you just thought the book was boring because of the main character explaining the calculations he was doing or something?
 
nekkid

nekkid

It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan.
Shadowhelper said:
With the right film makers, the original source can be exceeded. Its pretty common.

Those Mathew Vaughn movies are much better than the nightmarish Mark Millar comics.

The book Martian itself is way more boring and tedious than the movie. Its because its way more hard sci fi than the movie. The book is like 75% mathematical resource management and 10% Nasa. The movie was completely different. Much more about the people and not the boring math.

I am sure this book will be another endurance test of boring and irrelevant details.
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This is exactly why I liked the book. Maybe not everybody shares your opinion - which would explain why it was so popular.
 
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HStallion

Now what's the next step in your master plan?
wetflame said:
What does doing math have to do with morality? The entire point of the story in both book and film form is "I need to work out how i'm going to survive, and I'm a scientist, so I'm going to use science to fix this". I really don't think that morally bankrupt is the argument you're looking for, sounds like you just thought the book was boring because of the main character explaining the calculations he was doing or something?
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Numbers and science are the devil.
 
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Morat

Banned
Shadowhelper said:
Yeah they probably could.

But the book sounds like absolute hell. Based on real science? Good grief. Is there anything more tedious or morally bankrupt than hard sci fi?
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What on earth are you on about? If you don't like hard sci fi, fine - many of us do, but it's a matter of taste. However, either you don't know what morally bankrupt means or your just making a really really silly statement.
 
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More_Badass

Member
Shadowhelper said:
The only people who prefer the book are the variety who tend to believe the book is always better. The science in the books is interesting at first, but the mathematical minutae makes up the bulk of the book. It's an absolute nightmare of a book. A punishment. A lot of people enjoying it doesn't make it good story telling.

I think most people would certainly concede the movie is far superior.

Well it doesn't have to be morally bankrupt, but yes, of course hard sci fi tends to be morally bankrupt. How could it not, being concerned with technology and scientific accuracy rather than people.

But hard sci fi is mostly a disgraceful genre that is extremely tedious and obsessed with stupid details, all of which tends to reflect the detached morals of its readers, more concerned about endless scientific details and the future of technology than humanity.

I think the Martian movie versus the book is a perfect example. The movie Martian is more a celebration of coming together and is how you can survive with perseverance. The book is how you have to be great at math to survive. The worst part of the book is how extraordinarily boring it is. It's almost objectively bad. But I get it appeals to some people. Just don't claim its good.
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I...huh....there’s a lot to unpack there

Not sure I even want to touch that with a ten foot pole

Go read Rendezvous With Rama would be my advice
 
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Magic Mushroom

Member
Shadowhelper said:
The only people who prefer the book are the variety who tend to believe the book is always better. The science in the books is interesting at first, but the mathematical minutae makes up the bulk of the book. It's an absolute nightmare of a book. A punishment. A lot of people enjoying it doesn't make it good story telling.

I think most people would certainly concede the movie is far superior.

Well it doesn't have to be morally bankrupt, but yes, of course hard sci fi tends to be morally bankrupt. How could it not, being concerned with technology and scientific accuracy rather than people.

But hard sci fi is mostly a disgraceful genre that is extremely tedious and obsessed with stupid details, all of which tends to reflect the detached morals of its readers, more concerned about endless scientific details and the future of technology than humanity.

I think the Martian movie versus the book is a perfect example. The movie Martian is more a celebration of coming together and is how you can survive with perseverance. The book is how you have to be great at math to survive. The worst part of the book is how extraordinarily boring it is. It's almost objectively bad. But I get it appeals to some people. Just don't claim its good.
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What a load of bullshit. There are tons of very well-written hard sci-fi novels.
 
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Ignatz Mouse

Banned
I like this book better, but only because the back half of the movie loses all sense of drama as the cut a couple of obstacles.

I didn't find the book boring at all. It's such a short read. Unless maybe you hate math and science and can't stand to read about it.
 
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