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[Dural]

What? This thing doesn't run FSR4? Launching after a DLSS3 Switch? LOL DOA!

For whatever reason AMD doesn't seem to want to put RDNA4 in their APUs, it's not on any of their roadmaps. Makes no sense as a mobile device would benefit from FSR4.

 

[analog_future]

Phil's white cheddar cheeto fingers all over that thing

 

[Ozriel]

Microsoft doesn't need new hardware to launch a new handheld UX. There are plenty of existing handhelds that could accomplish that.

They're using a new, 'hero' device to seed it out.
Lenovo has their Legion Space. Asus uses Armory Crate. MSI has their own overlay too. Going this route gives them a chance to ship a default launcher, vs hoping folks install it on their older handhelds.

 

[Tunned]

That is one ugly handheld... I'll be waiting for the Lenovo Legion Go 2 thank you (or if Steam announces the Deck 2 this year (which is doubtful).

 

[clappedcheeks]

Switch 2 is released in a month and this leaks out. Pure coincidence I'm sure.

 

[Topher]

They're using a new, 'hero' device to seed it out.
Lenovo has their Legion Space. Asus uses Armory Crate. MSI has their own overlay too. Going this route gives them a chance to ship a default launcher, vs hoping folks install it on their older handhelds.

That's fine, but if they are using Asus to launch an "Xbox" handheld and then later an official Xbox handheld (as stated in the post I replied to) then that is what I'm saying is overcomplicating things from a consumer standpoint. If this is just Rog Ally with a new Windows UX then that is a different scenario than what I'm talking about.

 

[Bioshot]

Legion GO still looks better than this, Although 64 gigs of memory would be a heaven sent right now.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

Day 1, and this thing is no more or less ugly than any other handheld on the market.

You need some glasses homie

 

[twilo99]

Rog Ally 2 running the new XboxOS?

I have no interest in handheld PCs but im curious to see how/if Microsoft makes a lean Windows OS for these handhelds and if itll be possible to use the OS on desktops.

Windows NT doesn't like to run all that lean and it really didn't like to run on battery …
They've been struggling with this for decades, but that being said it will likely work well enough, just don't expect XNU type efficiency

 

[dgrdsv]

For whatever reason AMD doesn't seem to want to put RDNA4 in their APUs, it's not on any of their roadmaps. Makes no sense as a mobile device would benefit from FSR4.

RDNA4 has worse perf/area than RDNA3. You could argue that FSR4 allows to win that back by upscaling from lower resolution but maybe they don't think it's true for resolutions as low as what you get on a Deck-like device.

 

[Astray]

They're using a new, 'hero' device to seed it out.
Lenovo has their Legion Space. Asus uses Armory Crate. MSI has their own overlay too. Going this route gives them a chance to ship a default launcher, vs hoping folks install it on their older handhelds.

It's basically Microsoft's gaming handheld version of the Google Nexus phones, if you remember those.

 

[twilo99]

"Our sources indicate that it won't be quite as cheap as the base model Steam Deck, but it won't be as expensive as the Lenovo Legion Go RRP. It'll be somewhere in the middle, with a base model price range of between $499 and $599 potentially."
~Jez

$800 confirmed

These handhelds only make sense in the sub $500 range imo

 

[jshackles]

These dusty photos are like... lore accurate to how they'd look in your house after not being picked up in forever since Xbox has no games

 

[Bruno_Arrais85]

good luck with that

 

[Trogdor1123]

I know it's a draft design but those angled buttons look really cheap, just their design.

 

[Astray]

These dusty photos are like... lore accurate to how they'd look in your house after not being picked up in forever since Xbox has no games

The "dustiness" is due to the plastics not being fully colored through pigments I think. This is a prototype that Asus likely shipped out in advance because regulators take quite a bit of time to certify things.

 

[CobraAB]

Looks like a PC handheld!

 

[HeisenbergFX4]

These dusty photos are like... lore accurate to how they'd look in your house after not being picked up in forever since Xbox has no games

As you show a Vita

 

[mckmas8808]

Yeah this looks HORRIBLE!

 

[alphachino]

This is one of those rare cases I don't care how it looks.

The fate of this device will be determined based solely on the experience offered by the software.

 

[CobraAB]

Woah, and 64GB of RAM? Damn, now I am interested.

64 GB?

A tad overkill?

I guess a way to justify the likely insane high price.

 

[Little Chicken]

I'm happy XBOX put ergonomics and power before aesthetics like some companies do.

Oh this is just the Xbox branded ROG Ally 2. Looks ok.

 

[hououinkyouma00]

As you show a Vita

My Vita still gets more use then any other handheld I own.

 

[Ozriel]

That's fine, but if they are using Asus to launch an "Xbox" handheld and then later an official Xbox handheld (as stated in the post I replied to) then that is what I'm saying is overcomplicating things from a consumer standpoint. If this is just Rog Ally with a new Windows UX then that is a different scenario than what I'm talking about.

Yeah, there's plenty daylight between 'ROG Ally 2: Xbox Edition' and 'Xbox Playboy' (I made that name up). Especially with 2+ years between them.

This won't be named an Xbox, and the market for PC handhelds isn't really the casual, mass market folks. The branding will clearly be ASUS

The official one would be named an Xbox.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

Looks like it sells for about $100 on Temu.

 

[AJUMP23]

Looks bulky and big. I don't think that could be the final.

 

[Matchew]

I love my ROG Ally. I don't get the complaints about the look of the thing. The thicker the better I say.

 

[Darsxx82]

 

[K' Dash]

why does it look like a 90's laptop? lol

 

[Alebrije]

Isn't that a ROG ? I don't understand

its an Xbox

 

[keefged4]

It looks more fisher price than the ally did already, how could they fuck this up so much hahaha

 

[Hohenheim]

Looks a bit weird, but should be very comfortable. Which is all I care about.
The Switch 2 might look more "stylish", but that flat design is hell for comfort.

 

[Matt_Fox]

 

[Topher]

Yeah, there's plenty daylight between 'ROG Ally 2: Xbox Edition' and 'Xbox Playboy' (I made that name up). Especially with 2+ years between them.

This won't be named an Xbox, and the market for PC handhelds isn't really the casual, mass market folks. The branding will clearly be ASUS

The official one would be named an Xbox.

We will see. Plenty of confusion in this thread already. Somehow I doubt Microsoft's absurd marketing is going to be any clearer 2 years from now.

 

[Bry0]

Looks kinda weird. Not what I expected. I have a deck OLED and a newly acquired legion go. Aside from the trash battery life the legion go is absolutely killer. I'm super interested in legion go 2. This looks wack.

 

[Nonehxc]

Stop, Whorren. It's dead.

As will be your career once they get rid of the last remaining paid zealots on payroll.

Unless someone, somewhere between the cogs of Redmond suddenly develops neurosyphilis and decides MS needs an obnoxious fundamentalist Azure Evangelist.

Which I would bet NOT since Azure works good and doesn't need obnoxious marketers throwing shit through the window at passersby.

 

[cinnamonandgravy]

its like MS hires people and puts them in the wrong departments for fun

otherwise i just dont understand how they do what they do

 

[ZoukGalaxy]

Design is more like Conan than Kennan

 

[Crayon]

Quite a project, it seems. All those logos and stickers they'll have to come up with.

 

[Haint]

"Our sources indicate that it won't be quite as cheap as the base model Steam Deck, but it won't be as expensive as the Lenovo Legion Go RRP. It'll be somewhere in the middle, with a base model price range of between $499 and $599 potentially."
~Jez

$800 confirmed

"Base model" doing all the heavy lifting in that quote. The base "Z2 Go" APU was rumored to be Zen 3 and RDNA2(i.e old AF designs), and very likely slower than the existing years old Z1 Extreme powering all the current windows handhelds. The Ally X with a Z1 Extreme and 24GB is $799 USD, that was the pre tariff trade war price. A Z2 Extreme 64GB model will absolutely be at least $999. Sale priced, open box, and secondhand values on the various Z1 Extreme models are way below the $500-$600 mark they're targeting with this likely worse "base model".

 

[Thabass]

So, a ROG Ally with Xbox grips. Meh.

 

[Boo Who?]

I'll say it again. Anyone who thinks that MS is going to make a proper gaming Windows 11 OS is out of their mind. They cant even make a normal OS.

 

[Audiophile]

In terms of the chassis design, all these PC handheld thingies look like old janky knockoff toys you'd see twenty years ago. I get function over form, but a little form would still be nice.

 

[Gamezone]

Feel like skipping this just beacause of the ugly design. The Z2E Lenovo looks so much better.

What's the point with "Xbox branded handheld"? If that's the case I would just install Bazzite on the thing out of the box.

 

[ReasonBeing]

These things aren't pocketable anyways, so I prefer they lean into the ergonomics.

 

[mopspear]

That's not Kenan.

This one is correct.

 

[KeplerL2]

What's the point of doing a partner one if you are doing an official one?

Because the proper handheld SoC won't be ready for a few years but they don't want to miss the handheld hypetrain/bubble.

 

[Imtjnotu]

 

[poppabk]

They are all ugly, steam deck, switch, legion etc. Even Sony couldn't make the Portal look like anything other than a bad photoshop mock-up.
Then again, I laugh every year when a new rectangular brick phone gets released and people are gushing over how beautiful it is and how much better it looks than another near identical rectangular brick because the chamfer on the edges is 2 degrees different and they shaved off a few microns of bezel and it has a new exclusive shade of blue.

 

[Dr. Suchong]