truestatic
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Fantastic game.
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Pikmin 3 |OT| Starvation, Slavery, and Savage Creatures in a Cute, Colorful Package
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Fantastic game.
Pikmin3 too good.
One point. The bosses. I feel that they are much more friendly to not destroying a lot of your Pikmin. When I feel I can battle without loosing too many Pikmin, I play around and experiment more. Which is the over all feeling that puts Pikmin3 over the previous two. Not just on the bosses but all of other aspects in the design. The dichotomy between efficiency and keeping your buddies alive that would always tumble into me being an over protective parent in Pikmin1/2. In 3, the balance is actually a balance to me. The pragmatics of the ant like goal checking and whatever personal worth you assign to the wonder of nature, and your minions are layered together so well I never feel the two are at odds.
Again. Too good.
One point. The bosses. I feel that they are much more friendly to not destroying a lot of your Pikmin. When I feel I can battle without loosing too many Pikmin, I play around and experiment more. Which is the over all feeling that puts Pikmin3 over the previous two. Not just on the bosses but all of other aspects in the design. The dichotomy between efficiency and keeping your buddies alive that would always tumble into me being an over protective parent in Pikmin1/2. In 3, the balance is actually a balance to me. The pragmatics of the ant like goal checking and whatever personal worth you assign to the wonder of nature, and your minions are layered together so well I never feel the two are at odds.
Again. Too good.
I think there are three.
My hope is we will see a similar cycle going from Pikmin 3 to 4 as we did going from 1 to 2. I'm beyond excited for the possibilities if they go as balls-out with 4 as they did with 2 in terms of adding cool new stuff to do.
I think Pikmin 3 is dramatically better than Pikmin 1, so 4 should be absolutely amazing. The jury's still out over which of 2 and 3 are better (they each have individual strengths and weaknesses, IMO), although I personally prefer the final product of 3 compared with 2.
KojiKnight
Member
We know Pikmin 3 is DLC enabled (from comments) the question becomes whether Nintendo has a team working on it or not. Hopefully so and hopefully it won't take a year for it to come out like NSMBU.
Maybe this secret code will offer a nice DLC discount... Could be awesome if Nintendo set a precedent that way "Play and enjoy our games, exploriong them fully and we'll give you a discount on future adventures in it".
blitzwolf215
Member
Yeah, I'd love to see what they do with 4, this game just has a charm about it. It's definitely my favorite pikmin game.
CrimsonCommie
Member
Trying to beat Twilight River in one day is tough! Has anybody here been able to do it?
blitzwolf215
Member
Just finished the last boss, sad to see this game end. I really hope there is DLC for this game. This game is amazing.
FaintDeftone
Junior Member
Just picked the game up today finally. About to give it a spin.
The Librarian
Banned
It is frankly unpossible to beat the final boss without losing any pikmin.
:Motorbass
Member
It's just a matter of strategy. For example, the brutal picking attack is useless against rock pikmin. They won't die from that. It may be hard but not impossible.
There is an odd imbalance between some enemies being quite lenient, and some being brutal. Eg some will be chomping on pikmin, but you still have time to attack em and make them drop the pikmin, and they won't die. But some (like the hairy walking thing) can just stomp a pile of pikmin into mush with one wrong move. I just came across one in an area that was quite tight, so the camera wasn't helping, and it squished half my pikmin so I had to restart the day. It is generally a pretty easy enemy too
I'm guessing not since doing it successfully should be a reward in itself.
MoogleWizard
Member
Just finished the game. Although I thought it was a great, unique game I feel this is probably the first Nintendo game I've bought that wasn't worth full price. It's just way too short, there's not enough content.
I finished it in 7 hours 15 minutes. I didn't collect all the fruit but still that is very short for the single player campaign.
And this is my first Pikmin game, I felt like I was going slow because it took a while to figure everything out and then all of a sudden "The End". I wonder why this of all their games took so many years and delays to make. I hope they make some free DLC or something.
I finished it in 7 hours 15 minutes. I didn't collect all the fruit but still that is very short for the single player campaign.
And this is my first Pikmin game, I felt like I was going slow because it took a while to figure everything out and then all of a sudden "The End". I wonder why this of all their games took so many years and delays to make. I hope they make some free DLC or something.
It is easy. He can't
kill Rock Pikmin with his usual attacks, so all you need to do is be careful about the things it spits out.
MadOdorMachine
No additional functions
I just started playing this today. Is there a way to do off-screen play or disable the gamepad instead of constantly having to look back and from it to the TV?
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
Are you sure it#s your play time? I'd recommend checking it in the Wii U's statistics, because 7:15 seems really fast to me.
What does it say in your activity log?
KennyLinder
Member
Anyone got the link to the game being completed in 10 days?
grap3fruitman
Banned
I've had this game for a week and it's still sealed...
MoogleWizard
Member
7:15 is my clear time from the "final report" screen you get after finishing the game. It probably doesn't count the days you restarted? I'll check the activity log later.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
That timer is weird; nobody really seems to have understood it. Check the activity log.
Press the "-" button on the gamepad to switch to off screen play and no you can't disable the Gamepad feature.
MadOdorMachine
No additional functions
I'll try that thanks. Does playing off-screen allow you to switch to a pause menu to see the map?
The clear time on the final report is the in-game time when you beat the final boss. So you probably beat him fairly early in the morning. At least, that's what the theory is right now (no one knows for sure).
MoogleWizard
Member
What? Why would they do this, seems really random...
Well, I still think the game is very short. Could have used some more levels, especially with the time it took to develop.
Stop worrying about that hedgehog and find those fruits!
Chaplain
Member
Agreed. One of the best games of the past decade. Nintendo should have launched the Wii U with this game.
Are you using lock on/charge? That boss is seriously a breeze if you charge it.
JasoNsider
Member
Seeing people chime in with Pikmin love is great. This game just oozes class. If I ever make a game even a fraction as polished and tightly put together as this I'll consider my career a success.
Any other devs saw the juicing effect at the end of day and think "what in the flying hell!?" That is basically a dynamic 2D fluid simulation. It's got dynamic mesh and the colours that get poured in do a realistic blend as it swirls about (per-pixel as far as I can tell). These are the kind of tech things Nintendo's engineers do that make it look so easy that you just accept what you see and smile.
Any other devs saw the juicing effect at the end of day and think "what in the flying hell!?" That is basically a dynamic 2D fluid simulation. It's got dynamic mesh and the colours that get poured in do a realistic blend as it swirls about (per-pixel as far as I can tell). These are the kind of tech things Nintendo's engineers do that make it look so easy that you just accept what you see and smile.
thecouncil
Banned
I'd be very interested in how many hours you played according to the activity log. I really would.
Really? I thought it was okay length. I played all Pikmin games and beat Pikmin 3 in 15 hours, without restarting days (according to activity log). Now I'm only 1/3 through Mission Mode and I've clocked 25 hours by now.
I really recommend the mission mode. I'm normally not the one to play challenge modes and time attacks and things like that (in fact, I rarely touch them) but it really clicks for Pikmin 3. There are 3 different modes with each 5 stages but so far I like "Collect treasure!" the most. You have to collect everything in a fairly small stage within a time limit (ranging from 7 to 10 minutes iirc). It's really high paced, very challenging and really fun
. If you have a co-op buddy and a spare Wii Remote around, all challenges can be played co-op as well and it's a blast!What amazes me is that Miyamoto and Co. Were able to actually keep engaging gameplay in their first full scale HD game. Other developers have been on the HD twins for 7 years, and their games are still riddles with shortcuts like QTEs and corridor level design.
What an amazing game.
Hardware limitations aside, Nintendo has been lapping other developers in water or "juice" effects since 1996. I would really like to know their secret with this.
Chaplain
Member
I would like to add that the main thing that Nintendo has over other developers is that gameplay is king. Pikmin 3 gameplay exemplifies the reason I started playing games: fun, fun, fun.
EsotericManiac
Banned
how does the co-op work in this game. would love to have the wife use one of the other characters to collect for me
MoogleWizard
Member
Just checked. 12:04, so whatever that clear time is, it's not the actual clear time of the game lol.
Really? I thought it was okay length. I played all Pikmin games and beat Pikmin 3 in 15 hours, without restarting days (according to activity log). Now I'm only 1/3 through Mission Mode and I've clocked 25 hours by now.
I really recommend the mission mode. I'm normally not the one to play challenge modes and time attacks and things like that (in fact, I rarely touch them) but it really clicks for Pikmin 3. There are 3 different modes with each 5 stages but so far I like "Collect treasure!" the most. You have to collect everything in a fairly small stage within a time limit (ranging from 7 to 10 minutes iirc). It's really high paced, very challenging and really fun
Sounds great, I'll try Mission Mode. Is that where you can use the purple and white Pikmin? They are listed in the manual but I haven't encountered them in-game.
I was just talking about the story, which I felt was short. But still, great and charming game, and surprisingly good looking in places, the last desert level was particularly impressive.
Its split screen and its glorious. I got my non gamer wife involved over the weekend and she made me late to work this morning because she wanted to play a few rounds.
The amount of planning and the low margin of error makes it a really intense and addicting experience.
EsotericManiac
Banned
so I CAN play the campaign mode co-op?!
i really should have read the manual this time
no you can't, just mission mode...
Although, playing co-op in the story mode is possible, if one person takes the wiimote+nunchuk, and the other the map. It's actually a very interesting exercise in cooperation if only one person can see the map and has full access to it, while the other needs to execute everything.
Me and my girl played the game coop like this:
I had the controls (wiimote and nunchuck) and she had the map (tabet). It takes a bit of team work and coordination but it was a very rewarding experience.
edit: zeeroid beat me to it and nailed what I was trying to say. Listen to him.
EsotericManiac
Banned
no you can't, just mission mode...
Although, playing co-op in the story mode is possible, if one person takes the wiimote+nunchuk, and the other the map. It's actually a very interesting exercise in cooperation if only one person can see the map and has full access to it, while the other needs to execute the actions.
Doesn't that pause the game though? My son tries to do this to a point always annoys me as it just pauses the game.
I do, however, have him help me find missing pikmin so they don't die at night
Yeah, I didn't mean panning the map while the other person is playing. But you can imagine how the two "players" would need to work together to accomplish all the necessary tasks and plan out the day if only one of the two can see (and pan) the map. It's surprisingly enjoyable.
You can think of it like a three-legged race, where you're taking what one person could do on his own and forcing two people to work together to accomplish the same task. It makes it more challenging, in a way.
Only time she would really touch the map and pause is when I would aske her to look for fruit, the next place to go, send a captain back to base to gather pikmin, etc. Its like they are working for you kind of thing....