If it's anything like DFA's, yes, it absolutely will. It's why I try to go for the highest all-digital rewards tier most of the time no matter how much I'm actually paying.
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Pillars of Eternity by Obsidian Entertainment (Kickstarter) [Up: Teaser]
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whalleywhat
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Wasn't it DFA that had to go, "Oh shit, we actually need you guys to pay the shipping on all those physical goods"?
Ehhh. I would, but I have to pay an additional $20 for international shipping and another $150 for the Star Citizen crowdfunding campaign. $300 is about as high as I'm willing to go for 'shit that may never even see the light of the day' in a month.
Make me pay $40+ for the add-on later on, Obsidian, I won't mind! Take my moneyz, take it all!Rawket Lawnchair
Member
I so want to upgrade my 20$ to a 165$ one, but I just can't justify this amount of money for a game I haven't seen yet...
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Careful, you're beginning to sound like those users on the DFA forums that are saying DF should go into debt to make DFA the best game it can be.
Gentleman Jack
Member
I get that a smaller print run is worse for the company than a larger one, but it still doesn't quite sit right with me that doublefine (not necessarily obsidian) spent so much of the kickstarter money on what is effectively marketing materials...to people who already paid for the game. I hope it pays off for them (and obsidian!) with respect to brand awareness and sales outside the orbit of the kickstarter campaign.
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
Guys, I am upping my pledge to 40$ because I also want the expansion. Do I have to write it down somewhere in the process of confirming it? How will they know it's the expansion I want and not something else?
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
They will contact you.
Do as I do. First, force yourself into that "I MUST, THEY CANNOT DO IT WITHOUT MY CONTRIBUTION!!!" state of mind. Then, do a simple "$ per hour's entertainment" calculation. If PE turns out being anything like BG2 in terms of content (or even if it's only half of that), you'll probably spend at least 60 hours exploring & adventuring. 160 $ / 60 = 2,6 $/h. Pretty great value, if you ask me.
Do it. DO ITTT!
Edit: $40 is fine too.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Have they reached $3.5 million? They're not counting paypal yet, I presume?
whalleywhat
Member
You are the first person to make this joke.
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
OK, thanks man.
Just upped it. That's all I can do for you at the moment Obsidian, release a kickass game and I'll buy it again in 2014.
They need 30k more I think. 3.366 million at Kickstarter now, 104k at Paypal.
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
They should be about 30k$ short, but yeah, it'll happen.
CrunchyFrog
Member
25k, go baby go
It still feels really weird to see so much transparency about dollar numbers with Kickstarter games, especially considering how we know less and less about the numbers elsewhere in the industry.
People might not have donated nearly as much without the kickbacks and incentives. It's how charities have attracted large donors for ages. Yes, at some level you'd rather wish all the money just go to the game's development, but as long as the total amount after the prizes are sent is higher than the previous reward tier, you've probably made out well.
TheForceWithin
Banned
The amount of value you get at the $165 digital tier is phenomenal. So I went with that.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I totally had it pegged that they wouldn't make 3.5m. Colour me surprised.
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
Kickstarter alone won't make it, so no need to be surprised.
Edit: Hope I'm wrong though.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
$3.57m with Kickstarter. Rest with Paypal.
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
200k in 20 hours? Sound too much. :-/
hm, so you can actually pick what rewards you want (assuming you pledged the correct amount)?
That and more.
CrunchyFrog
Member
We got 247k in the last 24 hours *shrug* and these things always accelerate towards the end.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Yes.
e.g. Pick $20 pledge but pay $40. They will contact you and ask you whether you wanted Expansion pack or whatnot.
it might happen. for the final few hours there's always a surge for people on the fence.
This is starting to seem like it's really legitimately going to eclipse BG2. Imagine that; Bioware told us we'd never see a game like it again, because it was too expensive to do asset creation and full voice acting on that scale.
Well, they got part of it right.
Well, they got part of it right.
CrunchyFrog
Member
I'm hoping this, WL2, and SRR ushers in a new renaissance of tactical CRPG's.
I never understood why devs and publishers let top down 2D RPGs die. BG1/2 were huge hits and continue to print money even today.
I think Interplay and Atari going to shit was largely responsible for that. If you really look at the RPG landscape, it's not like there were a ton of publisher/developers doing big top down/isometric 2D RPGs back in the day either.
While true, you have to wonder why Atari didn't think of eg. funding Neverwinter Nights 2 (the way it was) and at the same time Baldur's Gate 3 as a 2D RPG (for a fraction of NWN2's budget). It's the fact that no one looked back to that big success story and profit on it that astounds me. NWN1/2 sold well enough though/
Rawket Lawnchair
Member
People should also remember that back then 3D was the next big thing after sliced bread. I still remember that first Bioware ad for NWN and how revolutionary it was. A couple of years later GTA3 came and it all took its course.
The mediocre sales of the BG: Dark Alliance series on PS2 were also influential to the BG name, I guess.
After so many years, the return to 2D is a fairly fresh wind of change.
The mediocre sales of the BG: Dark Alliance series on PS2 were also influential to the BG name, I guess.
After so many years, the return to 2D is a fairly fresh wind of change.
PastorOfMuppets
Banned
The CRPG almost died in the late 90's actually. Computer Gaming World had a year where they gave out no RPG of the Year Award because there were no games released that could be even be considered decent.
Seems like the real problem there is you'll never see a game on BG2's scale with modern AAA standards. It's why I find the path of requiring full VA highly questionable and kind of wish more frequently lower end visuals were accepted on stronger platforms.
Well, that's mainly a console problem, half because of mass market consumers and half because the gate keepers usually deem it unfit, but it doesn't seem to have been a very serious problem on PC at least.
That reminds me of how S-E keeps saying that if they made FFVII today, it would take 10 years or something. Lolol.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Nothing on this livechat beats someone asking on the biochat three years ago if any females work at BW.
The entire BG series has only sold around $5m in its entire lifetime.
That's nothing in today's standards.
EDIT: fix't. i'm a dork.
The entire BG series has only sold around $5m in its entire lifetime.
That's nothing in today's standards.
EDIT: fix't. i'm a dork.
Call me when it legitimately eclipses Planescape.
source?
That's ridiculous, as it's sold over five million copies.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Wow, that was such a typo.