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[Sentenza]

Apparently they already edited the official artwork.

The important lesson today is that bitching can get results.

 

[EndcatOmega]

The important lesson today is that bitching can get results.

But... now what do I bitch about?

I feel empty and confused.

 

[EatChildren]

Time to go back to whatever Mass Effect thread you like most, please.

Never.

 

[SquiddyCracker]

Much better.

And I like it that they'll probably try to sexualize the female characters less in the future (unless it makes sense, like a female rogue assassin).

 

[Trigger]

But... now what do I bitch about?

I feel empty and confused.

It's time to bitch about the lack of things to bitch about. Obviously.

 

[Hargenx]

People get me wrong...

The problem is not a woman with a gun, is just the gun, in DS3 the gun is just overpowered, that's the point, I hope this time they balance it better.

 

[EndcatOmega]

It's time to bitch about the lack of things to bitch about. Obviously.

Where the hell is the next update Obslowdian?!!

People get me wrong...

The problem is not a woman with a gun, is just the gun, in DS3 the gun is just overpowered, that's the point, I hope this time they balance it better.

By the sound of it, guns are weaker than bows at everything but killing mages.

 

[Sentenza]

People get me wrong...

The problem is not a woman with a gun, is just the gun, in DS3 the gun is just overpowered, that's the point, I hope this time they balance it better.

While the balance problem could exist, I'm not sure how comparing this game with DS3 could have any relevance, considering how we are talking of entirely different combat systems.

One was an action game that gave the player control of a single character, this is a tactical party based game.

 

[Hargenx]

I'm not comparing with DS3(I don't even like the game LOL), I'm just showing a game where the problem exist, and Obsidian work on it!

 

[zkylon]

MCA is old <3

 

[ArjanN]

The important lesson today is that bitching can get results.

I liked the old design better.

 

[Sentenza]

I liked the old design better.

Yeah, well, you missed the train for that, sucker!

Spoiler

No, seriously. Can't really say I did.

 

[Zeliard]

Lipstick on a pig. Like the previous Random Human Male Fighter #251265, it's just a snore-inducing character concept.

 

[xenist]

Lipstick on a pig. Like the previous Random Human Male Fighter #251265, it's just a snore-inducing character concept.

Fuck yeah! Her left leg, right arm and belly should be unarmored for no reason at all. Also she needs to have a hairstyle that wouldn't have been out of place in Paris Fashion Week and enrgy goo slowly seeping out of her eyes.

And shoulder armor. More shoulder armor.

 

[inm8num2]

I want to have children with her.

 

[Trigger]

I wonder how this game will approach morality.

 

[Sentenza]

I wonder how this game will approach morality.

Carefully?

 

[Mister_Bubbles]

if she's using a gun why is she even wearing heavy armor? Just put her in chain mail or leather armor.

JE Sawyer said on the forums that her melee weapon is a 'military hammer', they just chose to leave that out of this concept art. Remember that guns in this game are pretty much one-shot only.

 

[The Technomancer]

Fuck yeah! Her left leg, right arm and belly should be unarmored for no reason at all. Also she needs to have a hairstyle that wouldn't have been out of place in Paris Fashion Week and enrgy goo slowly seeping out of her eyes.

And shoulder armor. More shoulder armor.

Its possible to be interesting without being "random" or "wacky". This isn't a bad style but I would like them to push it a bit further in terms of looking "like what we expect...but not quite", just seemingly realistic deviations that might arise from a parallel culture.

 

[Ledsen]

No boob armor please. Keep it away from this game. And if she's using a gun why is she even wearing heavy armor? Just put her in chain mail or leather armor.

I thinks its funny that when I google knight and then female knight you get two completely different styles of armor.

Pretty sure some knights in real life did use guns in meelee. Not huge rifles but still.

 

[Sentenza]

Its possible to be interesting without being "random" or "wacky". This isn't a bad style but I would like them to push it a bit further in terms of looking "like what we expect...but not quite", just seemingly realistic deviations that might arise from a parallel culture.

Yeah, I mean...

This is an interesting character design:

This isn't:

 

[Kurtofan]

We don't know anything about the characters besides how they look.

 

[WorstUsernameEver]

I can't unsee the fact that Roche is holding a chest on his belt.

 

[Famassu]

Yeah, I mean...

This is an interesting character design:

This isn't:

Your example really isn't much better. And what's with the medieval fanny bag?

 

[Kurtofan]

Yeah if I didn't know Roche, that would just look like a generic medieval guy with a turban and a chest.

 

[Sentenza]

Your example really isn't much better.

Yes, it is, by FAR.
Vernon Roche's appearance has a very recognizable outfit without being exceedingly over the top.
It also has its fair amount of details adding an even more distinctive feel.

Edair looks like "Anonymous NPC on the side of the street #2346" from any random adventure module for D&D.

We don't know anything about the characters besides how they look.

Aaaand that's all we are talking about, in fact. So i can't se how that could be an issue.

 

[subversus]

THIS I LIKE

 

[Fjordson]

Just watched the latest update from Avellone.

Apparently we take the same brand of fish oil pills. Yeah...that's all I have to add.

 

[Exuro]

And now I need to go look at some Roche screens. Looks so good in game. Love The Witcher 2 designs.

And after looking for shots I remember how awesome Iorveth looks.

 

[WorstUsernameEver]

I like Roche's design by the way, but it's puzzling insofar as I'm not sure what CDPR was trying to do with it. Is he meant to be trying to disguise as a merchant? You'd expect someone like him (essentially a medieval secret agent) to try and not stand out.

 

[Sentenza]

And now I need to go look at some Roche screens. Looks so good in game. Love The Witcher 2 designs.

Delivered:

I like Roche's design by the way, but it's puzzling insofar as I'm not sure what CDPR was trying to do with it. Is he meant to be trying to disguise as a merchant? You'd expect someone like him (essentially a medieval secret agent) to try and not stand out.

He's actually the leader of a commando unit, Blue Stripes (Royal Special Forces, essentially).
Not a secret agent.

He occasionally deals with spies, sure, but he's not a spy himself.

 

[subversus]

I need to replay The Witcher 2. Or should I wait for mods with new areas?
I think so...

 

[fizzelopeguss]

Here's an interview with Adam Brennecke on the PA Report.

Also, new concept art:

Ouch, this game is gonna look like crap.

 

[Exuro]

He occasionally deals with spices,

Just had to fix this.

 

[WorstUsernameEver]

I need to replay The Witcher 2. Or should I wait for mods with new areas?
I think so...

Just play it on easy, that way you won't have to bother with its combat and can get to the stuff that matters, like story, quest design, etc.

Not sure if mods are going to be worth it, The Witcher 1's mods were.. subpar. I doubt the sequel will be any different.

 

[Sentenza]

Just play it on easy

Don't do it. It would be a huge mistake.
The game tends already to be annoyingly easy after a while, even on the hardest setting.

 

[Lancehead]

Ouch, this game is gonna look like crap.

The game's...isometric. There's no logical way to say how the game could look based on that character concept art.

 

[WorstUsernameEver]

Don't do it. It would be a huge mistake.
The game tends already to be annoyingly easy after a while, even on the hardest setting.

It's never fun though, so he might as well make it easy from the beginning.

 

[Sentenza]

It's never fun though

Opinions.
Despise balance issues it's actually better than most action RPGs around, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[WorstUsernameEver]

Opinions.
Despise balance issues it's actually better than most action RPGs around, as far as I'm concerned.

Of course it's an opinion, but he asked for opinions like that in the first place, so I didn't see the point of putting a huge disclaimer in front of it. And personally, I felt it tried to be too many things at the same time and to fit both consoles and PC with a single interface, which hurts the pace of the combat a lot. It's gotten better after the patches but still not there.

Anyway, if you enjoy it, all the more power to you.

 

[Sentenza]

Of course it's an opinion, but he asked for opinions like that in the first place, so I didn't see the point of putting a huge disclaimer in front of it.

Yeah, and I simply stated that I don't agree at all with your claim, so why are you so defensive about it?

 

[WorstUsernameEver]

Yeah, and I simply stated that I don't agree at all with your claim, so why are you so defensive about it?

I don't know, was I defensive? Regardless, I'm not sure how much of a bearing my tone has to the discussion.

 

[jim-jam bongs]

Yeah, I mean...

This is an interesting character design:

This isn't:

yes but Broche is the coolest character in modern gaming. you've set the bar too high.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

Is "boob armor" really a big deal? I'd rather have characters appear as differnetly as possible and that's part of it. This game, and genre, is not about realism and never has been. I want the girls to look different from the guys, it's not a matter of sexuality, in a game what does it matter, it's about variety. I want characters to look different from each other. While I love Fallout, I don't like how every character looks the same based on armor, and I'd rather that not be the case here.

edit: and yeah, Witcher 2 designs aren't any better than what's been shown

 

[Lancehead]

edit: and yeah, Witcher 2 designs aren't any better than what's been shown

They need to fill in some colours, and I think a lot of the complaints would be gone.

 

[Sentenza]

edit: and yeah, Witcher 2 designs aren't any better than what's been shown

You people need better glasses.

Those are all highly distinctive designs.
Characters that definitely have a easily recognizable look, some degree of originality, a lot of style and an amazing amount of details.

That's the very definition of good character design for you.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

You people need better glasses.

how is it better?

Like the guy above said, all the art needs is some color, aside from that what makes the witcher 2 stuff better?

 

[DiscoJer]

You people need better glasses.

I dunno, christmas tree ornaments around the belt and a weathervane as a staff? A lunchbox? The redheaded woman looks good enough, but does she really need two belts? (Both at different angles)

 

[Lancehead]

Those are all highly distinctive designs.
Characters that definitely have a easily recognizable look, some degree of originality, a lot of style and an amazing amount of details.

That's the very definition of good character design for you.

Maybe we should stop comparing art of important characters in the game with art that's represents a class. When Obsidian releases concept art of an important character, we can do all sorts of comparisons with Witcher.

 

[Count of Monte Sawed-Off]

I dunno, christmas tree ornaments around the belt and a weathervane as a staff? A lunchbox? The redheaded woman looks good enough, but does she really need two belts? (Both at different angles)

Don't forget stripes. Stripes can define a character.