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Pitchfork's Top 50 Albums of 2011
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I agree that Ravedeath is much better.
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Discotheque
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That's ridiculous. Proves Pitchfork knows fuck all about rap.
List doesn't seem too bad at all so far. Just, bad on the hip-hop as usual.
i still cant quite believe that is Midnight City. I've heard it a billion times w/o knowing who made it or wtf it was since my campus radio station plays it twice an hour. i'm can't believe people think its the song of the year. its a decent little tune but the wankery over it baffles me.
guess i'll stick to Cut Copy for my 80s-inspired synthpop fix.
Maleficence
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Midnight City is an amazing tune, not sure I would put it above the beautiful Holocene though.
Great top 2 though imo regardless.
Great top 2 though imo regardless.
Maleficence
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The pitchfork - music snobs thing is really ridiculous when you see some of the pop they put in their lists.
Kesha is in there ffs (admittedly only featured on a track but still!)
Kesha is in there ffs (admittedly only featured on a track but still!)
I mean it has to be, right? They called it "preposterously self-obsessed". That's Pitchfork in a nutshell.
Well at least it beat Mac Miller's 1.0. Mac Miller < Childish Gambino < Lil B
But they insulted my favorite shitty band. What a bunch of pretentious assholes! It's definitely not my taste that sucks.
In fairness, this year sucked for hiphop.
BenjaminBirdie
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Also good? Jeepers creepers, it's a subjective list of preferences by autonomous human beings. You're the one discrediting one against the other. I happen to think they're both exceptional, which I guess makes me the winner since there's two things I like versus your one.
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sixteen-bit
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Sure, you need to be more out of touch.
I love the people in this thread that go into a rage at the mention of Pitchfork. Why? Because they like bands you don't? Because they gave a band you like a shitty score? Get the fuck over it. They are biased just like every other music website on the planet is. Use them as a way to find new music, not as gospel for what people should and shouldn't like.
That said, I like the list so far although I think Fucked Up deserves a top 25 slot. Probably my album of the year.
That said, I like the list so far although I think Fucked Up deserves a top 25 slot. Probably my album of the year.
Well, music reviews are heavily biased and completely shitty anyways, and I'm not quite sure why they even still exist, but Pitchfork is consistently inconsistent with their ratings, with hip-hop especially. When you read their hip-hop reviews and compare them to eachother, their criteria and justifications from album to album weigh heavily on so many different things. Even fundamentally their flawed, which makes them fucking trash before you even start talking about individual scores.
Maleficence
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They don't have a single person review every genre do they?
As a major smog/Callahan fan, consider this another push. Very sublime and haunting. SIWWWAE is lounging on your porch in the summer, Apocalypse is sitting on a mountain in the fall.
Beyond 'Black Up' at #1, I don't think I've really thought about my "list" this year. All the Tim Hecker talk combined with me randomly throwing it on this morning has me thinking it'll be up there.
No idea, but if you have no unified baseline of criteria for a universal score system, your doing it wrong.
Dreams-Visions
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No idea what they're going to put on their top 20, but I loved NPR's 50 best. I picked up some AMAZING music from that thread.
Ballaké Sissoko & Vincent Segal - Chamber Music
Brookly Rider
Demdike Stare - Tryptych
Gretchen Parlato - The Lost and Found
Mahler's No. 2 with the London Philharmonic
St. Vincent - Strange Mercy
Tom Waits - Bad As Me
Julianna Barwick - The Magic Place
Amazing albums, the lot of them.
Oh, and New History Warfare Vol. 2 is much too low on that list!
Ballaké Sissoko & Vincent Segal - Chamber Music
Brookly Rider
Demdike Stare - Tryptych
Gretchen Parlato - The Lost and Found
Mahler's No. 2 with the London Philharmonic
St. Vincent - Strange Mercy
Tom Waits - Bad As Me
Julianna Barwick - The Magic Place
Amazing albums, the lot of them.
Oh, and New History Warfare Vol. 2 is much too low on that list!
Exactly! Even more worrisome, some people are saying my favorite album of the year might get #1 on this list? Madness. :/
PetriP-TNT
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That Ty Segall LP is pretty good but not up to par with the previous ones... if that's on the list Mikal Cronin should certainly be in the top 10
Number 1 will be Bon Iver, M83 or James Blake GUARANTEED. Kind of surprised they went with "Midnight City" as #1. Usually they make a left field pick, but then again they did that with some of the other utter shit they put in the top 10 including EMA, Nicki Minaj, Beyonce and DJ Khaled. Also for that one guy thinking Adele will be in the top 20, they didn't even review her album.
I do agree that pitchfork often gives a lot of weight to things like lyrics and certain other factors that don't have much to do with the actual music. But still, theres no science to reviewing anything. I think pitchfork is more interesting than most other review sites because they often approach their reviews from a different angle than most other music sites.
Grabbing it now after that description, sounds exactly what I'm into. Heard "Drover" earlier and loved it
Dreams-Visions
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pardon my confusion, but are you saying lyrics "don't have much to do" with the music? or did I misread that?
MorisUkunRasik
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aahahhahaha.....no. There have been 10 -15 legitmately great rap albums, I liked more albums from the rap genre than any other this year.
Dreams-Visions
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yes. it really was a "banner year" for hip-hop if there ever was one. a lot of high-quality albums.
blame space
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MorisUkunRasik
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And not just quality and quantity, but variety. Action Bronson, WTT, Shabaz, ASAP Rocky, The Roots, Kendrick Lamar, Doomtree, Elzhi, Raekwon, Cunninlynguists, Danny Brown. None of those dudes put out an album similar to one another's.
Technosteve
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I've never heard of these bands.
BenjaminBirdie
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I do like hearing stuff I may not otherwise have been exposed to.
Julianna Barwick and Jacques Green's jernts on the 100 Tracks list are fucking AMAZING.
doktorpeace
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I don't get Julianna Barwick. You think it's gonna be pretty for a second - maybe even the perfect backing for a forest shrine in a video game?-, and then you're crawling across the floor holding your ears to turn it off as the music just compounds and compounds into horrible choral noise.
Yeah, pretty much if you like a certain kind of hip-hop, there was something, or even more than one thing this year to satiate your tastes.
Not what I'm saying. My wording is a little awkward. Pitchfork likes to take into account external factors like a band's background, current social trends, their look, etc when reviewing music. I don't consider that stuff having much to do with the actual music. Lyrics obviously are a huge part of the music. But I also think pitchfork tends to weigh those a lot more heavily then they should sometimes.
Bulbo Urethral Baggins
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Worst year for music in a long time. (opinion)
kitchenmotors
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Oh look, another Pitchfork albums of the year thread. Lots of bitching already, especially from those that most likely don't even listen to the kind of stuff that Pitchfork reviews.
Anyway, the only list that will matter is Party Pig's Top Albums of 2011.
Anyway, the only list that will matter is Party Pig's Top Albums of 2011.
kitchenmotors
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Any year with 2 releases by The Weeknd could never be the worst year for music in a long time. (opinion)
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