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[RadioactiveLobster]

Have a key (Quote to reveal)

 

[Smash88]

Last key I'll give to lurkers or anyone.

Enjoy!

29TE-R96N-RXAT-K2JR-FF77

 

[mr_nothin]

Seems like they'll be launching with 3 continents in 2012
Also, metagame post from Higby is expected tomorrow/later on today.

http://forums.station.sony.com/ps2/index.php?threads/state-of-the-game-important-news.32576/

 

[Jezabel]

servers down at the moment? logged on for the first time and there was no servers running

 

[mr_nothin]

servers down at the moment? logged on for the first time and there was no servers running

Lol, this will never get old
Servers go down for 6 hours every weeknight from 12am PDT/3am EST until 6am PDT/9am EST. On weekends, servers go down for only 2 hours from 12am PDT/3am EST until 2am PDT/5am EST

 

[Tik-Tok]

Have a key (Quote to reveal)

Someone took it without saying anything... thanks anyhow though

 

[Tik-Tok]

I have 3 Planetside 2 keys.

First to quote gets one.

Here are instructions:

To Redeem:
1. Go to www.PlanetSide2.com and enter your key.
2. Go to www.PlanetSide2.com/download and login with your Station name and password.
3. Download Launchpad and run/install.
4. Login with your Station name and password to start downloading.
5. When download is complete, press Play.

I would also like a key if theres one available still please

 

[MrBig]

Seems like they'll be launching with 3 continents in 2012
Also, metagame post from Higby is expected tomorrow/later on today.

Good to hear. The non static warpgates will really do a lot in getting rid of the boring stalemates, especially when we get more than the home 3 conts

Lol, this will never get old
Servers go down for 6 hours every weeknight from 12am PDT/3am EST until 6am PDT/9am EST. On weekends, servers go down for only 2 hours from 12am PDT/3am EST until 2am PDT/5am EST

no one reads the op

 

[Liberty4all]

Ok, any particular reason?

They hit harder ... lots of one shot kills. I don't play NC but I'm sure somebody here can chime in on why NC sniper rifle is godly.

 

[Wes]

They hit harder ... lots of one shot kills. I don't play NC but I'm sure somebody here can chime in on why NC sniper rifle is godly.

Not saying this is correct but isn't the NC rifle bolt action rather than semi-automatic? Maybe you can unlock bolt-action varieties for TR ans VS too and they are all one headshot kill?

 

[Disheveled_Zen]

Still toying with picking this up. Keeping an eye on it to see if it'll fill the gap that BF3 was unable to do after BF2.

I do love me some vehicle action.

 

[Makoto]

I've found that treating PS2 as a replacement for Battlefield is not particularly prudent and it's better to treat it as it's own game. For instance, the aerial vehicles don't have the same satisfactory control of the Battlefield franchise. They feel like babby's first flying machine. The more I keep comparing the feel and control between the two franchises, the less and less I like PS2, but having been able to keep BF off my mind while playing PS2 over the past few days has led me to enjoy it much more.

 

[MrBig]

Still toying with picking this up. Keeping an eye on it to see if it'll fill the gap that BF3 was unable to do after BF2.

I do love me some vehicle action.

Fill the gap? PS2 makes any BF game (really any round based MP game) look like a joke, in tactical/teamplay requirements, and of course in scale; not completely comparable though.

 

[Disheveled_Zen]

I'm more just in the market for a large scale, competitive shooter. They have always been the go to fps style gameplay for me and I have never overly enjoyed arena style death match fps games.

Played the hell out of BF2, only have like 20 hours or so in BF3. Not really concerned about how they match up to each other, more concerned with PS2 being a great large scale FPS game.

 

[mr_nothin]

New Update from Higby:

Hey all -

One of the issues that's been consistently brought up by our beta players is "where's the metagame!?". Good question!

We've been looking very closely at what Planetside 2 needs to have a solid metagame that we can continue to grow from and enhance for years. A lot of your feedback as well as our own observations of how the gameplay of Planetside 2 has evolved is directly shaping where were going with the metagame systems, and a lot of these decisions have required us understanding how the game will play with thousands of players actively fighting, what will motivate them? what will encourage better fights? It's hard to design these types of systems without knowing what gameplay 'needs' must be filled, so a lot of these systems simply weren't possible for us to fully design until we had a few months of beta testing to learn the answers. The improvements we're working towards are across several systems and different scales, but they're all designed to provide a more meaningful, rich, and understandable metagame experience. These changes are going to be coming over the next few weeks, they won't all come at once, but they're all on the way.


Spawning Mechanics and Squad Cohesion

Planetside 2 is a team game, it is simply more fun to play when you're in a cohesive group, communicating and working together with your allies. We want to make sticking with your squad the 'path of least resistance' for respawning into the game. To do that we're adding some mechanics and modifying others.

Spawn beacons will no longer cost resources or use up a tool slot
Squad leaders who are actively leading a squad and have unlocked the beacon cert will be able to place a beacon on a timer
The nearest "hard spawn point" to your squad leader will be available to all squad mates to spawn at regardless of their location on the map
Squad vehicles like Sunderers will be available to be spawned at regardless of distance
Players will be able to "Instant Action" to their squad leader as long as the instant action timer is available.

We're also going to make Sunderers available at more outposts so that a push isn't halted by lack of spawn logistics if your sunderer gets destroyed during the course of capturing an outpost. Along with this we will be putting in radius checks for deploying Sunderers in proximity to others. We want players to be able to get access to spawning logistics when they need them, but not have those spawning logistics be so spamable that bringing 20 Sundys to each fight is the guaranteed path to success.


Base Capture mechanics and communication

Since the start of beta we've been continually iterating and refining on base capture mechanics. Our next round of iterations is going to simplify some of the base capture routine by removing the ticket system. Currently to capture a base you 'flip' a point and then wait for your capture tickets to count up, this is a passive process which currently allows people to flip a point and then move to another base, or flip a point and camp somewhere in the base. We're going to make it so that the time to flip the point is the time to capture the base, that way you know if a base is being captured there are players actively there converting the point. As part of this change we'll also be increasing the radius for capture by quite a bit so you don't have to just stand within a 5 foot radius of the point, but can move around within the outpost of facility to a greater degree. This will convert the current 'race to the finish' system into more of a 'tug-o-war', controlling the point will pull the facility towards your empire. Influence will still impact the time it takes to convert the point, and be really important to successfully capture the base. For multi-control point outposts a similar system will be in place with the control nodes each pulling on the rope. Up to 12 players will be able to influence a single control point, increasing the strength that it converts from 1x to 3x. This should encourage attackers to actively defend control points and the rooms they're in, and remove some of the feeling of 'wack-a-mole' that currently exists in the multi-control point bases.
This change should make the result of the base capture be closer tied to the action of capturing. No longer will base capture event end even when you have the upper hand in the fight due to a ticket flipping over for the defenders. You will win if you have the leverage to win, period.


In addition to the conversion from a race to the finish to a tug-o-war we will be changing how some of the rewards work for facilities.

Defenders will earn bonus experience for actions taken during the base capture, repairs, heals, revives, kills, etc.
Attackers will earn a large XP bonus upon successful capture.

These competing reward goals should give everyone a strong incentive to both attack and defend bases. We're going to make the reward dynamic so the longer the base remains owned by an empire the larger the bounty is for attackers and the more the bonus for defenders grows, this should help to give some real motivations to hold and assault key territories and also to move around the map a bit and not just fight over the same stale base. Large facilities will have a higher cap for both rewards, and they'll scale down with the facility size.


Another key addition will be tactical base benefits. You've been asking for them, and we're going to add them. Empires who maintain an unbroken line of territory control will be able to receive these benefits at any connected facility, outpost or towers. Here's what we're thinking for the facility benefits, you guys who played the original should be familiar with these ideas, but we want to hear your feedback on if you think these will work or ideas for cooler or better benefits if not:

Biolab: Reduced respawn timers at connected facilities / outposts
Amp Station: Overcharged base turrets, longer overload times on facility generators
Tech Plant: Access to MBTs - yes, facilities will be unable to spawn MBTs without a connected tech plant

Another piece of the puzzle will be better communication of the tactical situation on your continent. We are going to be making some enhancements to the map to show the capture status of the region, and better convey security ratings of areas. This is an area we need to make a lot of improvements on so that can easily know where to go to find the fight.

Finally, we need to make Instant Action / Hotspots work better. We're working on the heuristics for instant action to ensure that it's not only taking you where it says it will, but so that the options available are more relevant, with real "action" that you can instantaneously access. This is another tool to help newer players more easily find and participate in big battles.


Intercontinental Warfare

As we continue to add continents to the game, our goal is to make intercontinental conquest a central aspect of the metagame. The back and fourth of campaigning across a network of massive scale continents in enormous empire vs empire clashes is one of the cornerstones of what makes Planetside such a unique game. With our initial three continents we will be laying the foundation for this global conquest gameplay by adding things like continent locks for total continental domination, continent benefits from locking continents that carry over globally, and mechanics to support retaking locked continents.


With the release of Amerish in the next couple weeks (fingers crossed!) we will be adding specific and unique continent benefits to the game, things like reduced vehicle timers or resource costs, increased ammo capacity, faster respawn times, etc. We want these benefits to provide strategic incentives to holding a continent, and as we expand out form the backbone for empire wide prioritization and targeting. This is another area where we're really interested in your input. What type of benefits would you like to see on continents? What would you NOT like to see there? Let us know.


In closing

Finally I want to thank you guys for your support, ideas, angry rants, bug reports and everything inbetween. This game is very unique (in the MMO world and elsewhere) in that making it great is simply not possible without a dedicated and passionate beta community that can not only provide insights into what is missing, test our assumptions, break our game systems and, perhaps most importantly, hold out feet to the fire about issues we're not paying enough attention to. You guys have been fantastic with all your feedback and we heartily appreciate it, and we hope you continue to be our partners in making this the best MMOFPS game in the world for years to come.
Thanks!
-
mh

 

[MrBig]

Higby's meta game post went up

some key points

Spawn beacons will no longer cost resources or use up a tool slot
Squad leaders who are actively leading a squad and have unlocked the beacon cert will be able to place a beacon on a timer
The nearest "hard spawn point" to your squad leader will be available to all squad mates to spawn at regardless of their location on the map
Squad vehicles like Sunderers will be available to be spawned at regardless of distance
Players will be able to "Instant Action" to their squad leader as long as the instant action timer is available.

Currently to capture a base you 'flip' a point and then wait for your capture tickets to count up, this is a passive process which currently allows people to flip a point and then move to another base, or flip a point and camp somewhere in the base. We're going to make it so that the time to flip the point is the time to capture the base, that way you know if a base is being captured there are players actively there converting the point.

Facility Benefits, connected hexes required to receive the benefit:

Biolab: Reduced respawn timers at connected facilities / outposts
Amp Station: Overcharged base turrets, longer overload times on facility generators
Tech Plant: Access to MBTs - yes, facilities will be unable to spawn MBTs without a connected tech plant

You'll always have access to all vehicles at the warpgate

With our initial three continents we will be laying the foundation for this global conquest gameplay by adding things like continent locks for total continental domination, continent benefits from locking continents that carry over globally, and mechanics to support retaking locked continents.


With the release of Amerish in the next couple weeks (fingers crossed!) we will be adding specific and unique continent benefits to the game, things like reduced vehicle timers or resource costs, increased ammo capacity, faster respawn times, etc.

The intention of locking the continent isn't to kick all the players out, it's to give a benefit to the empire that manages to lock it down. As long as the empire keeps the continent locked down, with no other empire owning a base the benefit will continue, the benefit will probably last for a fixed period of time after the 'lock' has been broken by the invading empire pushing out as well. We have discussed the idea of disabling spawning into the warpgate and transiting to the continent as well as zeroing out influence from the warpgate (So near by territory can't be captured) for a short period of time to allow the dominating empire a chance to relish in their victory before the continent becomes contended again as well.

e: damn it mr_nothin

 

[cripterion]

On which EU server is the Neogaf TR outfit?

 

[Wes]

I like the base capture changes and the fact that defending is actually worth it.

On which EU server is the Neogaf TR outfit?

We seem pretty spread out which sucks. I'm playing on US East as I thought most of GAF would end up there but I haven't got an ingame message from anyone!

Lag hasn't been an issue for me.

 

[fifasnipe2224]

Spawn beacons will no longer cost resources or use up a tool slot
Squad leaders who are actively leading a squad and have unlocked the beacon cert will be able to place a beacon on a timer
The nearest "hard spawn point" to your squad leader will be available to all squad mates to spawn at regardless of their location on the map
Squad vehicles like Sunderers will be available to be spawned at regardless of distance
Players will be able to "Instant Action" to their squad leader as long as the instant action timer is available.

My favorite update thus far. Keeping squads close and allowing more spawn points will really boost the fun while playing in a group.

Base Capture Mechanics: Having to stay on a point, larger points, faster cap with a larger group, and "Defenders will earn bonus experience for actions taken during the base capture, repairs, heals, revives, kills, etc.
Attackers will earn a large XP bonus upon successful capture."

This is what the game has been missing for quite some time. Better caping system and an actual reason to att / def.

Instant Action / Hotspots work better

Il believe it when I see it.

Intercontinental Warfare: Total continental domination, continent benefits from locking continents that carry over globally, and mechanics to support retaking locked continents

Jaw dropping stuff. Cant wait to see the new 3rd continent and this well tie the game in very nicely in a larger scale.

All in all these, sound VERY impressive and I cannot wait to see them implemented. I see so much potential here: especially with better spawns for squads and base capping.

 

[Deadly]

What happened to hacking, is that still in?

 

[MrBig]

What happened to hacking, is that still in?

Yes, infils can hack terminals and turrets

 

[Wes]

The current "shooting whilst cloaked" bug is incredibly annoying. Infiltrators running around with shotguns just popping people off with ease.

 

[KidGalactus]

Anygaffer playing the NC?

 

[MrBig]

Anygaffer playing the NC?

http://goo.gl/1QPfu

 

[Jhriad]

Tech Plant: Access to MBTs - yes, facilities will be unable to spawn MBTs without a connected tech plant

Too bad this will work poorly with their current base setup on Esamir. It worked in PS1 because there were multiple Tech plants on every continent. Only having one tech plant gives too much importance to Eisa especially when the base is a pain to take with how open the surrounding area is and those rooftop turrets.

 

[mr_nothin]

So much PS1 vet whining going on at the forums....about every single little thing. It's getting a little out of control over there. You'd think this wasnt a good game with the amount of whining going on.

 

[Moaradin]

Every official forum in a nutshell. It's a cesspool of crap.

 

[MrBig]

Beta key:

 

[mr_nothin]

Every official forum in a nutshell. It's a cesspool of crap.

But before the big influx of new comers, it was a cool community with people making relevant suggestions and reporting bugs and things of that nature. Now it's filled with threads demanding stuff like "FIX THE FUCKING FRAMERATE/LAG SOE!" and saying "THIS ISNT PLANETSIDE, I QUIT". It's annoying and it's getting in the way of real feedback. I mean we have people complaining about HS damage being too high when it takes like 3 headshots to kill someone....come on!

 

[mr_nothin]

Well in other news, we get some good fixes/tweaks this week
Yay at them taking out implants for right now, should really help tone down vehicle spamming. We're actually going to have to wait for vehicles now! D:

First a couple known issues we'll hotfix asap:

Weapons are not purchasable in the marketplace, but are in the Cert trees
The Dalton and Tank Buster, Liberator weapons, are not purchasable from Cert trees

Headlines:

Infantry and vehicle weapons are unlocked with cert points instead of Auraxium
Auraxium rewards were removed from the game
Cert points are earned with every 250 experience points instead of 1000 experience points
Gameplay implants were removed, will return later as a loadout slot
Weapon medals grant cert point rewards


Top Player Bugs Resolved:

Frame rate shouldn't affect fire rate
Infiltrators should not be able to fire while cloaked
Ability system improvements to help protect against abilities getting stuck on or off
Ammo boxes and mines should be more responsive
Fixed an issue where players would get into a semi-dead state
Resolved an issue where players would log in or spawn at a location in the middle of the zone
Platoons should no longer get in a broken leaderless state
Players should no longer spawn at zero health
Removed a case where players could get weapons into an unusable state
The heal and repair tools now have sticky targeting


Weapons:

All shotgun damage and range has been reduced
TR shotgun rate of fire is a little slower, but it is still the fastest shotgun
Projectile drop was slightly increased


Vehicles:

Damage of Rocket Pods, Lightning 75mm, 40mm Grenade Launchers and Liberator 105mm cannon increased against Main Battle Tanks
Flak damage reduced by ~5%
Repair tool is now 25% slower on vehicles
Liberator health increased by 10%
A tuning pass has been done on tank turret controls. They should feel more responsive.
Range of Scout Radar on Flash has been reduced
Galaxy acquire timer is now 20 minutes instead of 30


Certs:

Scout Radar certification is now 4 ranks. Maximum range reduced to 200 meters
Galaxy acquire timer certifications now capable of reducing timer to 5 minutes
Mineguard certifications are now 4 ranks


Misc:

Queues for logging in to full servers or zones (no more having to spam the play button or warp button)
Client performance optimizations

 

[docbon]

Beta key:

Forwarded this another gaffer. Thanks MrBig!

Well in other news, we get some good fixes/tweaks this week
Yay at them taking out implants for right now, should really help tone down vehicle spamming. We're actually going to have to wait for vehicles now! D:

Wish I spent my 6k auraxium before the server went down.

I was already owning tanks with my hellfire rocket pod equipped mosquito, but I'll gladly accept this buff. Say goodbye to your magrider tank walls, vanu skum.

 

[Liberty4all]

http://goo.gl/1QPfu

I'm actually bamelin1 on east server.

 

[Moaradin]

2GB patch seems pretty big for what the patch notes say. Maybe they are laying out the ground work for Amerish.

 

[Vigilant Walrus]

I don't know if it's my computer or my connection, but when I play it seems very floaty, quirky and laggy (not low framerate laggy) just like it's continious lag spikes.



Also is there a way in-game to customize the mouse sensitivity? I couldn't find it, and had to go in Windows to change it, but it was hard to get right.


I'm not sure. First impression is not that good, but I will need to give it more time to proper test it. Betas are supposed to be buggy, not marketing gimmicks so I applaud them for giving it out this early. But it looked like to me they have a long road ahead of them.



Final thing, does anyone know if they will allow more character customization? I was really bumped out with the little choice I had when making my character. Like 3 faces. That's not a lot of incentive to want to build a cool virtual-self and work on it.. hopefully for years.

 

[mr_nothin]

I don't know if it's my computer or my connection, but when I play it seems very floaty, quirky and laggy (not low framerate laggy) just like it's continious lag spikes.



Also is there a way in-game to customize the mouse sensitivity? I couldn't find it, and had to go in Windows to change it, but it was hard to get right.


I'm not sure. First impression is not that good, but I will need to give it more time to proper test it. Betas are supposed to be buggy, not marketing gimmicks so I applaud them for giving it out this early. But it looked like to me they have a long road ahead of them.

Final thing, does anyone know if they will allow more character customization? I was really bumped out with the little choice I had when making my character. Like 3 faces. That's not a lot of incentive to want to build a cool virtual-self and work on it.. hopefully for years.

For ingame mouse sensitivity settings, at the map...look to the bottom right and select "Settings". It's in the "General" tab.
There's not going to be any character customization in the beta. That's coming once the game is launched and they have a lot of ways to customize your character. Different types of camo & all types of armor pieces.

2GB patch seems pretty big for what the patch notes say. Maybe they are laying out the ground work for Amerish.

I dont think so, patches have been 2GB+ since Esamir came out. Patches will probably increase in size again when Amerish comes.

 

[Wes]

I can't tell if spending my auraxiam yesterday was a good or bad idea now :lol

 

[fifasnipe2224]

I love the updated for the Galaxy, I play in a group of 10 members and theres nothing like giving a 3,2,1 countdown and then jumping off with all your friends. Also great to see all these bug being corrected.

 

[Wes]

The rate you achieve Cert points now feels a lot better now when you move around capping and killing, at least it did after a short play session.

Who else is on US East Lysithea and what are your char names? (Mine is Weswess)

 

[mr_nothin]

The rate you achieve Cert points now feels a lot better now when you move around capping and killing, at least it did after a short play session.

Who else is on US East Lysithea and what are your char names? (Mine is Weswess)

Feels way too freakin fast, especially for most cert costing around 1-50 cert points. I'll be superman by the end of the day at this rate. They need to keep the cert cost ratio the same and just raise the prices up a bit. General certifications are just too cheap.

Also, it seems like they removed their in-engine FXAA

 

[MrBig]

Beta key:

 

[fifasnipe2224]

If anyone has or ever gets and extra beta key please keep me in mind =)
I have 4 friends still trying to get in.

 

[MrBig]

If anyone has or ever gets and extra beta key please keep me in mind =)
I have 4 friends still trying to get in.

I'll be giving out one a day in here for the next week. Random times. I'd prefer them to go to gaffers, that's why I do the email codes, but if no one touches them for a while you're welcome to send them out.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

I'm putting together a gaming pc this weekend? Was just wondering if anyone has a code to spare before I end up just buying my way into the beta. Thanks!

 

[bardia]

If anyone has a spare beta key I'd really appreciate it as well. Was a huge fan of planetside, would love to try this out

 

[MrBig]

If anyone has a spare beta key I'd really appreciate it as well. Was a huge fan of planetside, would love to try this out

If you can find your account details or contact SOE support and get that account back you will already have access to the beta on there.

I believe the SOE Live stream will be starting in about 40 minutes. http://www.twitch.tv/soe

Will have tournaments and stuff on the future of PS2, as well as the reveal of Amerish. Not sure if that's all happening tonight or spread out over a few days.

e: wtf am i watching

 

[mr_nothin]

If you can find your account details or contact SOE support and get that account back you will already have access to the beta on there.

I believe the SOE Live stream will be starting in about 40 minutes. http://www.twitch.tv/soe

Will have tournaments and stuff on the future of PS2, as well as the reveal of Amerish. Not sure if that's all happening tonight or spread out over a few days.

Stream starting any minute now
They are a little behind but should be starting shortly.

EDIT:
I guess your estimation was correct lol

 

[mr_nothin]

Stream Live now.
Event hasnt started yet

Sucky stream, bad cosplay. Cringeworthy D:
I'm watching a geek convention

 

[bardia]

If you can find your account details or contact SOE support and get that account back you will already have access to the beta on there.

I believe the SOE Live stream will be starting in about 40 minutes. http://www.twitch.tv/soe

Will have tournaments and stuff on the future of PS2, as well as the reveal of Amerish. Not sure if that's all happening tonight or spread out over a few days.

e: wtf am i watching

Damn, I tried to look up my old old SOE account, but I cannot for the life of me remember what the username I used was and the email that I had linked to it was hacked long long ago :lol

 

[mr_nothin]

Soooo Awwwkkkkwarrrdddd

 

[MrBig]

Public release date is November 20th, 2012
You can reserve your name if you purchase Alpha Squad before Nov 15th

http://imgur.com/a/nw4iP