Planned Parenthood endorses Hillary Clinton, 1st Primary endorsement 100-year history
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smh Bernie Sanders marched with a woman in the 60s probably
thiscoldblack
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The agenda is strong with this one.
Well, I think there was a woman candidate who looked fairly promising back in 2008...
On paper, I agree. In practice, I'm also highly uncomfortable about the attacks on the group, and I think that worry outweighs the other.
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I used the term mansplain because the poster I quoted used the phrase "reverse sexism" nonironically.
She understands the issue in a way others can't not necessarily because she is a woman, but because this is an issue she has built her entire political career around. From founding the organization Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, to making reducing teen pregnancy an integral part of her role as First Lady, to being a Senator who introduced eight bills to expand access to reproductive healthcare (no other candidate running, Democrat or Republican introduced any), to being Secretary of State who made women's issues a seminal building block of her time at State. She's the only candidate running who has mentioned Planned Parenthood during the debates.
But, I think it's odd to pretend that she doesn't approach these issues in a way a man simply can't. I've never experienced the types of sexism a woman faces. As a gay man, I understand homophobia in a way a straight person, no matter how amazing their intentions, simply cannot. Women can educate allies into understanding how they perceive issues of gender inequality. However, it's not something that I can experience in the exact same way.
adamsappel
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Language evolves and new words, even stupid ones, enter our lexicon. You know how the term is used and what it is supposed to mean. Being pedantic isn't an argument against it.
eBay Huckster
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cue future threads painting this person as "all Bernie supporters"
there's this person, and erasureacer, and jeevesmeister, and occasionally las7
which at this point constitute a majority of the most vocal Bernie Standers
Reverse sexism sounds exactly like "reverse racism" loads of my Alabama white friends go on about. Are women/minorities capable of being bigots? Of course. Is Bernie the victim of a biased choice made by bigoted
PP? Unlikely, lol.
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I had no idea PP has been around for that long.
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Why is he entitled to it? You know, they actually lay out their reasoning for selecting her on their website.
Where did I say he was entitled to it?
Btw, every single woman Ive talked to here in Norway which is a country who has won the title for "best country to live in for mothers" many times says Bernies woman politics is way better than Hillarys.
It's in the same case as reverse-racism in the stupid word bigoted assholes use.
He can use it if he wants, we'll still mock him for it.
Heck reverse-sexism would be something like a construction worker doing the reverse of hooting a lady in the street.
the construction of the word means nothing and sexism against men also exist, it's called sexism.
While Bernie's voting record is good, Hillary's voting record and record for bringing forth legislation on women's health issues and equal pay are better.
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You didn't, but you said why not Bernie. I mean, the obvious answer is they prefer Hillary. They go into detail on their website as to why they selected her over anyone else. I was simply asking why you thought Bernie deserved it more than Hillary did.
People in Norway know who Bernie Sanders is? And they know about his politics too?
Of course. Sanders is the closest you will get to Scandinavian social democratic politic in USA.
I have so far been suprised about the amount of people who knew about Bernie.
A lot of men and women here also dislike Hillary, but would rather have Hillary than a republican (me too).
Certainly makes you wonder why PP didn't endorse Clinton back in 08 when Obama had a much weaker resume than Sanders does now. Why the change this election (other than Clinton's improved chances)?
I just don't like any org that receives govt funding to be political. Doesn't matter which side they fall on.
No, I mean people in Scandinavia follows US politics that closely that they know he exists?
In France you would be surprised by how little we give a shit about US politics (or even UK).
Heck I'm pretty sure people know about Clinton, Trump and Bush.
Outside of that no one is that interested in US politic to know about a disheveled senator or whatever that has basically nothing to differentiate from candidate #987.
Like seriously we could more easily give you the name of Cameron's allies and no one gives a shit about England politics.
It's like you told me that people in Denmark had a strong opinion between Pau's Mayor François Bayrou and former Prime Minister, Bordeaux's current Mayor Alain Juppé.
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There is little, if any, real difference between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton on women's issues, at least when it comes to specific policies they could hope to actually implement.. However, Hillary has made women's issues part of per political life for decades. She has a stronger record of actions not just votes. It is more of a central point of her campaign than for Bernie. Bernie ties every single thing to economic inequality.
An endorsement simply means they prefer this person over the other. They outlined their reasoning on their website, including several specific issues where Hillary is preferable to anyone else who is running. I also would venture to guess that they believe she has a better chance at winning both the nomination and the GE.
Different political climate. The fact that the GOP is doing everything they can to smear PP lately, including one of their candidates lying through her teeth about what PP does and has done.
This has to be the worst post I've seen on GAF so far this year. This isn't even funny if its sarcasm too. SMH.
Have you lost your mind
adamsappel
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It's such a "clip vs. magazine" argument, though. The meaning is clear. When you hear someone use "reverse -ism" you just know that's a white guy complaining.
Two things: Hillary has the better record in this regard and Bernie can't actually win.
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This can't be serious.
This made me laugh.
Like a fine wine
Sho_Nuff82
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It doesn't matter that the smoking gun videos about PP being a baby organ death factory are rubbish. If we have a Republican president, all have vowed to dissolve it.
Makes sense. As was said, all of the Republicans said they'll de-fund Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood could literally be fighting for it's survival.
Hillary specifically mentions Planned Parenthood often.
She was the only one to mention Planned Parenthood at the democratic debates.
Bernie didn't do that.
So yeah, it makes complete sense to me why they would choose Hillary.
Hillary specifically mentions Planned Parenthood often.
She was the only one to mention Planned Parenthood at the democratic debates.
Bernie didn't do that.
So yeah, it makes complete sense to me why they would choose Hillary.
Although I support Sanders, I have to say, this endorsement reminds me why I'll vote for Hillary in the general election with no hesitation. She is a million times better than any GOP candidate, particularly on social issues, where I actually think she is more effective than Bernie (though his positions are all fine). Hillary can protect women's reproductive rights from the retrograde fundamentalists on the right more effectively than any other candidate in recent memory.
Has Bernie really not mentioned Planned Parenthood even once during the debates? I find that somewhat hard to believe.
Regardless, this is a good thing, since if they didn't support the more probable nominee, this would surely be spun into more anti-Hillary sentiment, which she definitely needs less of.
I'm surprised, however, that this is the thread the more combatative Hillary posters decided to get banned in on the first page...
Be good to each other goddamnit - if Hillary and Bernie respect each other, their followers should too.
Regardless, this is a good thing, since if they didn't support the more probable nominee, this would surely be spun into more anti-Hillary sentiment, which she definitely needs less of.
I'm surprised, however, that this is the thread the more combatative Hillary posters decided to get banned in on the first page...
Be good to each other goddamnit - if Hillary and Bernie respect each other, their followers should too.
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fwiw, Cerium actually got banned for aggressively shitposting in a different thread (and then bragging about it in PoliGAF)
I haven't fact checked it, but Hillary is the only one I remember naming them by name at the debates.
This is what I personally feel is a flaw of the Bernie Sanders campaign. He seems almost too laser focused about income inequality and wall street. I feel he would have had a stronger campaign if he would have spent a bit more time, compared to what he already did, talking about other issues.
Not this thread though.
yeah, and it wasn't even about Hillary VS Bernie. Cerium was posting Donald Trump quotes as his own posts or something.
SlimySnake
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Angry Hilary Best Hilary. Obama very rarely got pissed/annoyed like that in debates. And when he did it was his finest moments.
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