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I wonder if labeling the input and setting game mode allows full picture control settings, unlike Samsung.

I have owned a Samsung in the past, so I know how restrictive their PC and game modes are. The LG's allows much more control, but is not quite at Sony or Panasonic level. With the LG (off the top of my head) you lose motion interpolation and white balance control, and the color temperature is controlled by a slider rather than the usual cool, normal, warm, etc. The usual adjustments like contrast, color, sharpness, etc. are available.

I'm at work right now, but when I get home I can post a full list of what settings are available in PC+Game mode if anyone's interested.
 
Moved to a new flat, looking to replace my 42GT60 with a 50VT65 - need the extra room. So difficult to find one, I've been searching for weeks to no avail. Still gutted left the plasma game :(
 
Got myself a Samsung 55" LED in November. Great set. However, 2 days ago - my girlfriend pointed out a dead pixel which seemed to occur when playing Fatal Frame II. Worried I would not be able to do anything about it, I contacted Best Buy who informed me they had extended their return policy over the Christmas holidays to the 15th of January. I happened to still have the box so I took it back without issue. Only bummer was they no longer had the TV in stock, or for the sale price I paid - so I ended up having to get a slightly smaller Sony BRAVIA 48" TV. It's fantastic! I owned a 32" BRAVIA a few years ago and had no issues with it. I am impressed with the UI and seemingly integrated SEN services. It was about $150 cheaper too, so it all ended up working out ok!

The only bummer is that I cannot get my phone to screen mirror with the TV. It recognizes it ok, but won't connect (Samsung Galaxy S5) I was trying to run the THX Tune Up app for optimum image quality. Oh well.
 
I stumbled across this site (http://televisions.reviewed.com/reviews?page=1&sort=rating,desc&msrp=min,max&specs.screen_sizes=min,max)

I like their reviews and their method of rating versus those of other websites I've used in the past.
Here is an excerpt;

"Black Level
To note the black level of the display, we measure the luminance on an industry standard ANSI checkerboard screen in candelas per square meter (cd/m2). We measure the black level several times during testing, reporting on any variance we see with these multiple measurements and discussing any dynamic backlight or local dimming functions as we go. However, the main figure that we quote is for the black level at our calibrated settings, with the backlight on maximum. Our score is based on how dark the black is: the lower the luminance, the higher the score.

Peak White
To measure the brightest white the TV can achieve, we use the same ANSI checkerboard screen and measure the luminance again in candelas per square meter. We do this after calibrating the TV as described above. Our score is based on how bright the white is after calibration; the brighter the white, the higher the score. When the peak white varies with the size of the test pattern area, as in the case of plasma displays, we perform several measurements with different areas, each with a different APL (Average Picture Level)."


They also provide recommended calibration settings based on the tools they use when testing. Which is pretty cool in my opinion. Which also led me to want a Vizio P series TV.
 
Hey,

just got my account activated and wanted to share my settings for the 50" W800b (2014 model). Correctly calibrated with Burosch, AVS HD and added the white balance settings from FlatpanelsHD as I don't own a colorimeter. Mind that these settings only work for the 50" model.
Oh... and have fun dealing with some German ;)

Movies & TV

Scene: Cinema 1

Hintergrundlicht: 3 (ca. 120cd/m²)
Kontrast: 90
Helligkeit: 50
Farbe: 50
Farbton: 0
Farbtemperatur: Warm 2
Bildschärfe: 50
Dyn. Rauschunterdrückung: Aus
MPEG-Rauschunterdrückung: Niedrig (only TV!, BD = "off")
Pixel-Rauschunterdrückung: Autom. (only TV!, BD = "off")
Reality Creation: 18/min.
Gleichmäßige Abstufung: Aus
Motionflow: Echtes Kino
Film Modus: Autom.

Schwarzkorrektur: Aus
Verb. Kontrastanhebung: Aus
Gamma: -1 (sollte so bei 2.3 liegen)
Autom. Lichtbegrenzer: Aus
Weiß-Betonung: Aus
Farbbrillanz: Aus
Weißabgleich: RG -3 / GG -13 / GB -1 ... Rest 0
Detailverbesserung: Aus
Randverbesserung: Aus
Haut-Naturalisierung: Aus

Games (leave Microsoft consoles at RGB/Limited // TV ... DO NOT choose Full/PC ... EVER... no matter what some people here say)

Scene: Game Original

Hintergrundlicht: 3 (ca. 120cd/m²)
Kontrast: 94
Helligkeit: 50
Farbe: 50
Farbton: 0
Farbtemperatur: Warm 2
Bildschärfe: 50
Dyn. Rauschunterdrückung: Aus
MPEG-Rauschunterdrückung: Aus
Pixel-Rauschunterdrückung: Aus
Reality Creation: Aus
Gleichmäßige Abstufung: Aus
Motionflow: Aus
Film Modus: Aus

Schwarzkorrektur: Aus
Verb. Kontrastanhebung: Aus
Gamma: 0 (sollte so bei 2.2 liegen)
Autom. Lichtbegrenzer: Aus
Weiß-Betonung: Aus
Farbbrillanz: Aus
Weißabgleich: RG -3 / GG -13 / GB -1 ... Rest 0
Detailverbesserung: Niedrig
Randverbesserung: Aus
Haut-Naturalisierung: Aus

PS: Eco Mode, Light sensor und Scene synchro always off. HDMI dynamic range = "auto."
 
Hi everyone, been lurking here for awhile, thanks for all the tips and info this a real informative thread. Got a question/need some advice.

Playing online with a mate who just got a new tv, a Samsung ua60h7000. He was complaining that ever since he got the new tv he's skills haven't been the same. I explained that it could be lag. We were playing Driveclub.

Anyway just want to know if anyone is familiar with that model range, what settings can be changed to make it better, etc. Or maybe the tv is good and it was the scotch and cokes that made him drive like shit!

Any help would be much appreciated, thanks.
 
I also just got a Samsung. A 55" UN55H7150 and iirc somewhere in this massive thread mentioned something about some special settings that could be helpful with Samsungs, since they're kinda limited with the options. I think it had something to do with changing the black levels. Could somebody please point me into the right direction?
Oh and thanks to the guys that answered my previous question about HDMI cables and their price difference.
 
Does anyone know if the PS4 camera works on the Bravia W700 and 800b tvs skype app? I am trying to see if I can skype from my TV without having to buy a new camera for it.
 
I bought a Samsung UN55H6203 and picture quality looks good, but while I am watching TV I occasionally see some stuttering in the frame rate. Usually it only happens on TV shows or movies being shown on TV. I don't see it on commercials. Any ideas on what this good be?
 
If anyone lives near FRYS they are selling the mid tier 50 inch Sony Bravia KDL-W800B for 500 dollars for in store pickups only. This is the best steal of a deal I have ever seen on a new 2014 120Hz 3D LED TV. The initial price goes for up to 1,198,00. You have to add it to your cart and select in store pickup for the 500$ price to surface. They are selling out so fast so if you go to your nearest FRYS and they don't have any on the sales floor threaten to go elsewhere to do business and they may go in the back and grab one for you if they have any in stock. I found this deal out from AVS forums. http://www.frys.com/product/8033214?site=sr:SEARCH:MAIN_RSLT_PG , Source MSDO. I called my local FRYS yesterday to confirm this and the rep told me its a limited time offer but did not give me a date on when the sale will end. I am thinking about picking one up as a gift for my mom. http://www.avsforum.com/forum/166-l...s/1513305-sony-2014-w600b-w800b-w850b-62.html
 
I'm looking for the best Monitor/HDTV that is between 32"-40" for around $250-$400. Any recommendations?

I just bought a 32" Samsung un32eh5000. It doesn't have internet and all that stuff but the picture quality is very good. You'd need to make sure you get an actual Samsung panel with yours but if you do it's a good TV.
 
I bought a Samsung UN55H6203 and picture quality looks good, but while I am watching TV I occasionally see some stuttering in the frame rate. Usually it only happens on TV shows or movies being shown on TV. I don't see it on commercials. Any ideas on what this good be?

I wouldn't know for sure but I'd mess with the settings in your picture options. Here are someones setting from an Amazon review:

Digital Noise Filter Off
MPEG Noise Filter Off
HDMI Black Level Low
Film Mode Off
LED Clear Motion Off

Try changing the noise filter/clear motion settings from whatever they're currently set to? Film mode being on will probably help but give stuff that soap opera effect which I personally hate. It may be all you can do though. Or maybe you like it anyway.

Anyway mess with those setting and see if any help. If not I don't really know. Check the AVS forums for some help.
 
I bought a Samsung UN55H6203 and picture quality looks good, but while I am watching TV I occasionally see some stuttering in the frame rate. Usually it only happens on TV shows or movies being shown on TV. I don't see it on commercials. Any ideas on what this good be?

Frame interpolation software cant keep up with whats happening on screen.

You're also probably watching everything in full on soap opera mode if this is happening.
 
Excellent television! I've encouraged a few friends/acquaintances to pick them up based on their needs and they've been nothing short of elated. As a bonus, they're super easy to get a good DIY calibration out of them.
Nice! I concur completely.

Interesting about the input lag. I canceled an order on a 51F8500 because the input rating was pretty high and read multiple impressions of it being bad for gaming.

It really is a non-issue. Set it to gaming mode or PC mode and it feels just as good as my old Panasonic 800u Plasma I use in the bedroom. I'm somewhat sensitive to input-lag myself and game w/ PS4 on my 8500 primarily (the Panny in the bedroom I play PS3 on). My son also plays games on it a lot. We play Battlefield 4, PvZ: GW, Driveclub, LBP 3, Evil Within, TLoU, Knack and tons of others w/ no issue on input-lag or retention. I will note I had it professionally ISF calibrated by a very highly regarded calibrator, so that probably helps eliminate any IR.

The only way I MIGHT not recommend it for gaming is ultra high competitive fighting at the very highest of levels, only b/c they supposedly need uber quick timing for response.

Please note that Samsung has updated their firmware quite a bit and input-lag is something they addressed awhile back. The problem is, those old reviews of tests still linger. I would put this TV right there with the Panny's on IL and just under the Sony's. But do not let IL be the reason you don't get this amazing set. It is drop dead gorgeous and the best picture I've ever seen. It regularly drops friends jaws... trust me.
 
I'm in need of some expert advice. A few days ago I purchased a 42" LG LB5600 and while I'm very impressed with the TV, I've noticed a bit of DSE and clouding. I know this is expected but in this case I see a horizontal row of white dots when the screen is a very bright or white background. For example, flying around in fog in GTAV or after the Shanghai tower collapses in BF4. I can't capture a good picture so I'm just going to describe it. Its about 3 inches from the top of the TV and from what I can tell they're spaced perfectly apart like this .....O.....O.....O.....O..... all across. The circles are probably the size of quarter or slightly less, and they look like lens flares. I've also noticed these spots in other places around the TV, so what in the hell is this? Should I return the TV? I have very little banding or lightbleed; this stuff only shows up in extreme light/white backgrounds but of course once you notice them....
 
Hey TV GAF, I'm looking to get a new TV within a week or two, and think I've narrowed it down to two models. They're both 80" LED TVs from Costco.

VIZIO M801i-A3 - 240Hz refresh rate, has 16 local dimming zones (but is edge back-lit), no PC input, has higher contrast ratio than the Sharp.

SHARP AQUOS LC-80LE642U - 120Hz refresh rate, is full array back-lit (but has no local dimming zones), has PC input, lower contrast ratio than the Vizio.

Which should I get?
 
Sup GAF, figured I'd ask my question here since I've seen this thread come up on the front page quite some times already.

I'm currently playing on a 32'' Sony Full HD TV and am looking to expand to a little bigger. I was thinking of 47/48'' since I have trouble reading stuff on the TV at times (and yup, my eyes are fine :D). I have no idea what the hell I should be looking for though. There's just too much options and I have pretty much no knowledge on what makes a TV good. Keep in mind I pretty much only use it to play games on (PS4/X1).

Is there a specific brand that I should look for? Plasma/LED/LCD? Should I go with 4K and would that bring any real advantages besides the much higher res? My budget is around €800/$930.

Thanks in advance.
 
Sup GAF, figured I'd ask my question here since I've seen this thread come up on the front page quite some times already.

I'm currently playing on a 32'' Sony Full HD TV and am looking to expand to a little bigger. I was thinking of 47/48'' since I have trouble reading stuff on the TV at times (and yup, my eyes are fine :D). I have no idea what the hell I should be looking for though. There's just too much options and I have pretty much no knowledge on what makes a TV good. Keep in mind I pretty much only use it to play games on (PS4/X1).

Is there a specific brand that I should look for? Plasma/LED/LCD? Should I go with 4K and would that bring any real advantages besides the much higher res? My budget is around €800/$930.

Thanks in advance.
Anyone? :3
 
I don't know if this goes in this thread, but I just wanted to share my experience of my recent projector purchase. I bought a Sony VPL-HW40ES (SXRD) back in December and I simply couldn't be happier with it. Reference mode has accurate colors out of the box. Game mode has a latency of only 24ms while the image looks identical to Reference mode. At 110" gaming is a blast, and movies look spectacular.

It being a projector does mean you'll want a very dark room. And by that I don't just mean blocking out light from outside - you will need dark walls/ceiling/floor which are preferably not reflective. I started this project out with light gray walls and with a white ceiling. Any image I'd output that wasn't nearly black would light up the room due to light reflecting off the walls. This light would then reflect back on the screen and kill the contrast. I found that was completely unacceptable, so I decided to hang a fabric on the walls and ceiling nearest to the screen. This alleviated the problem and I now have excellent contrast.

My girlfriend, who I share the apartment with, thankfully approved of my conversion of this guest bedroom. I made it in such a way that all the fabric can be taken down with minimal effort whenever we do have a guest sleeping over. The projector is in a closet in the back of the room projecting on a screen on the opposite wall. When the projector is not in use I simply close the sliding door of the closet, so all that remains visible of this theater is a screen on the wall.

I realize this is not something for everyone, and I do still have a nice Pioneer Kuro (KRP-500M) in the living room. There is just something very nice about watching a properly installed projector in a (mostly) dedicated room. It's simply that much more immersive.
To those on the fence on a projector purchase, the Sony VPL-HW40ES is an easy recommendation. However, some may want to wait for 4K projectors to become more affordable. As you can probably imagine, 4K will make an even bigger difference on larger screen sizes. That said, most theaters still project at 2K and I don't hear many complaints.
 
Started messing around with settings and ugh, I am so used to cool color. Everything else looks so dark or yellow.

What are some fairly universal brightness/contrast settings?
 
Started messing around with settings and ugh, I am so used to cool color. Everything else looks so dark or yellow.

What are some fairly universal brightness/contrast settings?

There's no such thing as universal brightness/contrast settings as it is completely dependent on the tv you have and your viewing environment.

If you just want some basic numbers to try, look up your tv model on AVS Forum or find reviews that include calibrated settings. That will give you a rough starting point, though don't expect that using someone else's settings will suddenly get you a calibrated tv.

Better would be to spend a bit and pick up a disc such as the Disney WOW blu-ray, which will have test patterns and explanations of what they are used for. Or even better, hire a calibrator, though you may not care enough about it to spend the money. Which is fine, because many don't.
 
I stumbled across this site (http://televisions.reviewed.com/reviews?page=1&sort=rating,desc&msrp=min,max&specs.screen_sizes=min,max)

I like their reviews and their method of rating versus those of other websites I've used in the past.
Here is an excerpt;

"Black Level
To note the black level of the display, we measure the luminance on an industry standard ANSI checkerboard screen in candelas per square meter (cd/m2). We measure the black level several times during testing, reporting on any variance we see with these multiple measurements and discussing any dynamic backlight or local dimming functions as we go. However, the main figure that we quote is for the black level at our calibrated settings, with the backlight on maximum. Our score is based on how dark the black is: the lower the luminance, the higher the score.

Peak White
To measure the brightest white the TV can achieve, we use the same ANSI checkerboard screen and measure the luminance again in candelas per square meter. We do this after calibrating the TV as described above. Our score is based on how bright the white is after calibration; the brighter the white, the higher the score. When the peak white varies with the size of the test pattern area, as in the case of plasma displays, we perform several measurements with different areas, each with a different APL (Average Picture Level)."


They also provide recommended calibration settings based on the tools they use when testing. Which is pretty cool in my opinion. Which also led me to want a Vizio P series TV.

Its an okay review site, but lacks too much detail for my tastes. I thnk CNET is really good for TV reviews, with the next best bet being the owner's thread for a particular set on AVS forums.

For example for my set (Panasonic G25 plasma) they provide "recommended" settings in the custom mode... but its just contrast, brightness, sharpness, color and noise reduction. No color temperature, no gray scale values, etc. They also didn't comment on or try to calibrate the THX mode, which is nearly dead on accurate out of the box. Sort of strange.

I've found CNET to be the best, any review by David Katzmeir is usually really well done. I've found that his recommended settings are usually right on or very close to what I get using calibration blu rays like DVE and Disney WOW as well. I tend to check CNET to see if they have a review for a set I'm interested in purchasing.
 
Does anyone else have the LG LM7600 series? I have a 47 and love it but I have one issue.
I noticed the TV goes dim and then brightens back up after a dark scene. It can be kind of annoying and I can't seem to figure out how to turn it off. Tried turning off anything that was labeled dimming but that doesn't seem to cut it.

Suggestions?
 
We badly need some bigger OLED screens that can fall in the 5 - 8k range. I'm moving into my new house in March and the media room is screaming for an 84". I explored projectors but all the great ones start at around 6-10k. If I'm going to spend that much, I'm saying screw it and getting a nice screen that can be used anytime, in any light condition.
 
So GAF...

I have a good old 42" Panasonic Plasma since about 2010. I like the benefits of a Plasma but I think I should accept that Plasmas are dying and maybe my wallet will appreciate it too. I'm generally happy with it so I don't REALLY need a new TV.. But you know how it is with new and shiny electronics.

I have 220€ credit/coupons for Amazon and about 50€ will be added in a few days. That makes getting a new TV tempting. I've been browsing through amazon.de a little and stumbled across some (seemingly) good Warehouse Deals. I trust the Amazon Warehouse Deals very much. After my 42" I always wanted to step it up to 50" for my next TV and I still think I don't want anything above that size. People visiting already gasp at how "huge" my 42" TV is (which has been getting smaller in my eyes every day).

I often heard good things about Sony's Bravias and I think also about the W6 to W8 series.
There is the Sony BRAVIA KDL-48W605 for ~530€ in a "very good" condition right now. So it's "just" 48" but that's just a difference of 5cm to a 50" TV and still an upgrade of 15cm to my current TV.
There is also the seemingly older Sony BRAVIA KDL-48W585 for even less money, ~420€, same size, also in a "very good" condition.
There is also a Bravia from the W8 series for 750-800€ but I think that's already too expensive for getting one just because I have an itch to do so.

Are those good deals and quality TVs for at least 5 years? What are the major differences? Should I upgrade to them? Or keep my still perfectly working 42" Pana Plasma until it explodes? Other suggestions with about the same size and prize (needs to be available on amazon.de though)? The thing that drives me mad is the opportunity to get a new, shiny and bigger TV for a cheap price right now with my Amazon credit..
 
So GAF...

I have a good old 42" Panasonic Plasma since about 2010. I like the benefits of a Plasma but I think I should accept that Plasmas are dying and maybe my wallet will appreciate it too. I'm generally happy with it so I don't REALLY need a new TV.. But you know how it is with new and shiny electronics.

I have 220€ credit/coupons for Amazon and about 50€ will be added in a few days. That makes getting a new TV tempting. I've been browsing through amazon.de a little and stumbled across some (seemingly) good Warehouse Deals. I trust the Amazon Warehouse Deals very much. After my 42" I always wanted to step it up to 50" for my next TV and I still think I don't want anything above that size. People visiting already gasp at how "huge" my 42" TV is (which has been getting smaller in my eyes every day).

I often heard good things about Sony's Bravias and I think also about the W6 to W8 series.
There is the Sony BRAVIA KDL-48W605 for ~530€ in a "very good" condition right now. So it's "just" 48" but that's just a difference of 5cm to a 50" TV and still an upgrade of 15cm to my current TV.
There is also the seemingly older Sony BRAVIA KDL-48W585 for even less money, ~420€, same size, also in a "very good" condition.
There is also a Bravia from the W8 series for 750-800€ but I think that's already too expensive for getting one just because I have an itch to do so.

Are those good deals and TVs for at least 5 years? Should I upgrade to them? Or keep my still perfectly working 42" Pana Plasma until it explodes? Other suggestions with about the same size and prize (needs to be available on amazon.de though)? The thing that drives me mad is the opportunity to get a new, shiny and bigger TV for a cheap price right now with my Amazon credit..


Keep the plasma at any cost! I was tired of the image retention that i get very fast.. so after months of doubt and research i orderd a Sony W828B because it had a 'plasma like' picture quality and the one in the shop also looked pretty good. I got the tv, set it up and the black level was just horrible!

The blacks in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMU...ature=player_detailpage&x-yt-cl=84359240#t=17 are almost inky black on my plasma, the sony LCD was way off with the blacks, it had the typical blue glow of the leds... after seeing that i boxed the tv and the plasma took its place again! Wait a bit longer for OLED to become more stable and at lower prices...

Any LED/LCD will be a downgrade coming from a plasma.
 
Thanks for your reply!

Really though? I would have thought the tech might have overtaken my old Plasma by now. Anybody with a different opinion on that?

I've never seen a TV that produces images anything like my VT60. OLEDs are better but still not nearly as good.
 
I get to play with a lot of current TVs as part of my work (lol not Best Buy) and nothing I have seen, 4k or otherwise holds a candle to my ST60. I don't care what anyone says, no TV I have played with makes me want to trade in my plasma Next week I'll get a Dolby Vision / HDR set in and we'll see if that changes my mind.
 
Other than better motion, I have no idea why anyone would prefer plasma over OLED. OLED is everything plasma was trying to be, and then some. OLED even maintains its picture quality in bright rooms, something plasma is not capable of doing, no matter how black the AR filter is.
 
Other than better motion, I have no idea why anyone would prefer plasma over OLED. OLED is everything plasma was trying to be, and then some. OLED even maintains its picture quality in bright rooms, something plasma is not capable of doing, no matter how black the AR filter is.

OLED sets are 3 - 4x the price, most are curved and the tech is still in its infancy. I'll replace with ST60 with an OLED in 3 - 4 years but until then I don't think the tech is ready for prime time.
 
Other than better motion, I have no idea why anyone would prefer plasma over OLED. OLED is everything plasma was trying to be, and then some. OLED even maintains its picture quality in bright rooms, something plasma is not capable of doing, no matter how black the AR filter is.
Using this conventional wisdom as my guide, I've recently decided to wait about 3-4 years to upgrade my 46 in plasma TV. Love, love, love my set, even though I wish it was bigger. But in three years I hope I can get a 65 in OLED with tech that's much better at the little details than today's sets. It'll be much easier to mount than any plasma, too, since it's so thin. Here's hoping.
 
OLED sets are 3 - 4x the price, most are curved and the tech is still in its infancy. I'll replace with ST60 with an OLED in 3 - 4 years but until then I don't think the tech is ready for prime time.

Flat ones are out this year and will be even cheaper.

Infancy or not, the LG EC9300 kicks the crap out of the ST60 in picture quality.
 
Looking to get a new TV specifically for gaming. Going to be using the three next-gen (current-gen) consoles and possibly a Steam Box. I think I want to go with LED and I'm looking for 50 inches or bigger.

Any suggestions on what I should be looking for to get the best bang for my buck? I regularly see LED HDTVs around 700-800 dollars that are 50+ inches. What features do I want to look out for that are best for gaming, and what refresh rate should I be avoiding?
 
Looking to get a new TV specifically for gaming. Going to be using the three next-gen (current-gen) consoles and possibly a Steam Box. I think I want to go with LED and I'm looking for 50 inches or bigger.

Any suggestions on what I should be looking for to get the best bang for my buck? I regularly see LED HDTVs around 700-800 dollars that are 50+ inches. What features do I want to look out for that are best for gaming, and what refresh rate should I be avoiding?

You'll want something that balances picture quality with low display lag. In this respect I consider Sony to be the best brand.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HPMCNXI/?tag=neogaf0e-20 is a 48 inch (I'm actually going to get the 40 inch one myself here soon) which costs about $578 and has 4 HDMI ports, but if you really must go 50 inch+ then http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWKBZ1G/?tag=neogaf0e-20 this 55 inch will do you good for around $800.
 
You'll want something that balances picture quality with low display lag. In this respect I consider Sony to be the best brand.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HPMCNXI/?tag=neogaf0e-20 is a 48 inch (I'm actually going to get the 40 inch one myself here soon) which costs about $578 and has 4 HDMI ports, but if you really must go 50 inch+ then http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AWKBZ1G/?tag=neogaf0e-20 this 55 inch will do you good for around $800.

I'll keep an eye on this one. I definitely need 50 or bigger. We recently bought a new house and the room I'm putting the TV in is quite large. My current TV is a 37 inch and it's way too small to play well on from so far away.
 
Hey guys im looking to buy the sony 4k 65 inch, its priced at $2500. Is it a good idea to buy it now or wait until after super bowl or whenever new TVs come out?
 
Flat ones are out this year and will be even cheaper.

Infancy or not, the LG EC9300 kicks the crap out of the ST60 in picture quality.

I'm looking at the EC9800 or EC9300, but I've read they have some issues with their motion processors..
 
So my Panasonic Plasma went to shit recently (Had it for 5 good years and got the 14 blinks of death. Fuck e I loved that TV too. Probably literally loved it to death) and I'm looking for a new set.

I don't know much about the disparity in quality between LED and Plasma. All I know is that people swear by the latter and I enjoyed my Panny Plasma as well. Still, if the difference is negligible I'll get an LED.

This is something I was looking at on Amazon recently

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I94IPTW/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I don't know if this is a quality deal or not, I just know Samsung are good peoples and make top flight stuff, and the price seems reasonable. Outside of that... I don't really know what to think honestly.

I mainly use my TV for watching movies and browsing the net, but I definitely want what's best for gaming first and foremost.
 
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