psychotron
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I'm excited for a new tv but it's been many years since I've had a non plasma. Strange feeling.
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I'm excited for a new tv but it's been many years since I've had a non plasma. Strange feeling.
Most televisions won't be getting a firmware update for HDR. Sets that already support HDR are likely to get it. Sony announced the X930C/X940C will get it. I believe Panasonic stated the CX850 will get it. I'd expect Samsung to release an update for the SUHD line. It simply allows HDR capable sets to read the HDR metadata layer via HDMI.
DangerMouse
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Since you're building that's probably a great idea as the only real potential con for you would probably be the eventual need to replace the lamp with a lot of use since they have a lifespan.
Someone who's got a real setup and given it a lot of use will hopefully respond but with these usually the two basic potential cons are the need of controlling the lighting in the room as much as possible and the lamp.
Plus, like you said, that optional installation and wiring for those who want the projector and/or screen fixed on the ceiling. And obviously (like with a TV but even moreso) it's best to have a receiver/surround sound system.
I've used the budget BenQ 1080ST off a table and even with just hanging screen material on a wall it looked pretty great for games and movies.
Dr. Zoidberg
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The cooling fans in projectors can be noisy as well so it's good to consider that when placing it. I have a rear-projection unit and I wanted to add that you'll probably be replacing the lamp every 3 years if this is going to be your primary watching/playing device. My advice is to buy the actual name-brand lamp that is recommended by the manufacturer (in my case Philips) and don't be tempted by the much cheaper no-name lamps on Amazon because in my experience they A) aren't as bright, even right out of the box and B) don't last as long.
I wish that were true. I tried to "upgrade" from my old RearPro SXRD numerous times and was really put off with the problems of plasma and LCD. Buzzing, banding, DSE and other screen uniformity issues just really killed my enjoyment of the flat panels I tried. The SXRD has problems with overscan and geometry but at least the image on screen is clean and even, even during pans and animation.
DJSebolski
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Are there any major differences between Vizio M50-C1 and M55-C2 excluding size obviously. 50" is $150 cheaper.
I just replaced my 6-year-old 1080i Samsung 42" plasma with a Sony 48" Bravia w600b LCD and holy shit. They are basically just giving away non-UHD large screens TVs now a days. $599?
I was thinking I wanted a Samsung since I have a lot of Samsung display hardware and I could not be happier with any of it, but the guy said the Sony Bravia was better for gaming performance (input lag), and the 48" had better color quality vs the other sizes (which I was in agreement with after seeing some floor model comparisons).
Even though my old Samsung plasma was 6-years old, I thought it would still have better response than a modern LCD. I was definitely wrong. This TV's color quality, image quality, and response time are all fantastic. At half the price (and a tenth the weight, energy consumption, and heat output) of my old plasma I am incredibly happy with the purchase.
I was thinking I wanted a Samsung since I have a lot of Samsung display hardware and I could not be happier with any of it, but the guy said the Sony Bravia was better for gaming performance (input lag), and the 48" had better color quality vs the other sizes (which I was in agreement with after seeing some floor model comparisons).
Even though my old Samsung plasma was 6-years old, I thought it would still have better response than a modern LCD. I was definitely wrong. This TV's color quality, image quality, and response time are all fantastic. At half the price (and a tenth the weight, energy consumption, and heat output) of my old plasma I am incredibly happy with the purchase.
Looks pretty good, is it your choice to switch off local dimming on game mode, or is it forced off? I can keep it on with W905.
It allows the local dimming to be on while on Game mode. I usually run it on off or low.
I'm looking at the Sony KDL50W800B. I have no need for 4k yet, just need a nice 1080p TV that is good for gaming with decent black levels, which this appears to satisfy. How can I check if it has that fancy 4:4:4 chroma subsampling? It's $700 on amazon, which is about my budget.
SMOK3Y
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I have the 55" beautiful TV not sure about 444 subsampling though
I will pass 4:4:4 on Game or Graphics mode. Solid choice.
On all HDMI ports?
Owningrampage
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anyone have the samsung 65 4k curved tv's?
are they worth it
are they worth it
I just grabbed the 55" W800B off Dell's site. It arrives Monday and the wait is killing me.
I have a 55W800B, which has a different (better) panel than the 900. It's not bad. I came from a Kuro 500M. This set, if I'm being fair, beats the Kuros in some ways. Pioneer made fantastic plasma (that black level and contrast!) but the picture had lots of dithering and noise. The 800B's LCD panel does not, it produces smooth images and has solid processing, with lower input lag as well.
I do agree that we're in a transition period. The OLED TVs beat the Kuro and final Panasonic plasmas, but they are priced out of the sweet spot. The LED LCDs have inferior IQ but the pricing is fantastic... I paid $800 for my set, less than half of what I paid for my Kuro new. When prices come down on the OLEDs I'll be ready to transition. Well, once they ditch those garbage curved screens.
Yes
rokkerkory
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Great tv get it
Unknown Soldier
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4:4:4 chroma subsampling is generally a concern on 4K TVs. 1080p TVs have been able to do it forever.
Yeah for sure, the 900/905 had a great screen, it was a Samsung screen, think sony went for a VA type for the 800, but sourced from a different company, good screens on both, it's the excellent local dimming on the 905, they they pretty much nuked, as in the 955 being an IPS screen but with half the local dimming LED's, but I haven't seen one so its not fair to judge, but looking at Hitgirls pic, doesn't look bad at all.
I just can't wait for next year now, when all this is finally sorted, and OLED being half reasonable with its pricing.
What, that's an insane price. Is it a local only deal or something?
Yea, deal offered to me from my part time job.
Thats an insane price. That TV is $5500 brand new.
Best Buy employee? I believe they could get the X950B for $4,000 when it first came out. With markups like that everyone else should be seeing some nice price drops later in the year.
RomanceDawn
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What about these new curved TV's I'm seeing pop up in stores? Anyone have any experience gaming with them? I really like the idea of the tv but have no idea of the benefits, if any.
The idea is that they make the experience feel more immersive. I've not gamed on any.
They cost more too. I'd probably prefer a flat version and use the money for a better TV instead.
Yup. It's not a bad weekend job to have, just for the discounts. I got my Sony 55"W950B for $400.
Pagusas
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Even at extreme sizes (80+) the curve doesnt help at all from standard seating distances, it actually is a bit distracting to anyone who likes perfect geometry.
On the flip side, 34" curved 21:9 monitors ARE worth it. So amazing how good it works when its used appropriately. You'd need a 4k 120" + screen to make the curve feel useful from a couch perspective.
I have a curved Oled and I can't even notice the curve in day to day use. It is only a 55" though and the curve is quite slight.
I've seen some curved TVs where the image distortion is noticeable.
WhirlwindMonk
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Looking for some general advice. I'm in charge of buying a new TV for my church. Main uses will be for the youth groups to watch movies and play casual games (Mario Kart, Smash Bros., Guitar Hero, etc.) but it will be wheeled out to the common gathering areas to show slide shows from mission trips and the like during/after church. My budget is about $1400 for the TV itself. My goal is to get the best 60-65" 1080p TV I can with that money. Barring some amazing sale, this very likely means going open box deals from Best Buy or the like, so I'm not looking for a specific recommendation so much as general ones. What brands should I look for and which ones should I avoid? Are any particular product lines from the recommended manufacturers especially good or unusually bad? And so on. Thanks for any help you can give.
It really depends on the TV, some have really accentuated curves.
The LG 930v that I picked up has a very slight curve. I actually have grown to love the small curve, it really helps with off angle viewing as well. OLED is really fantastic at off angle viewing already though.
I'm pretty sure they are all out, the Sony's anyway.
Same and yeah, when I'm actually using the TV I forget it's even there. If there had been a flat variation of the 930V I would've paid extra for it because I expected to hate the curve, but it's been a complete non-issue so far. It varies between models but generally it'll neither help nor hinder your viewing experience.
Yeah, I can definitely see a massive benefit in an ultrawide PC monitor being curved. Really want one of those 34" 21:9 screens too, but considering all the ones on the market seem to have backlight bleed issues (except potentially the Samsung VA, but that seems to come with its own issues), I'm holding off for now. Last thing I want after investing in an OLED TV with its amazing blacks is to get a PC monitor with bleed so bad that the corners look yellow.
Not all of them.
argh, got my TV yesterday (Sony KDL50W800B) and it has one dead subpixel (only shows black on red background, aqua on white). It is off the the left side of the screen. It's from amazon and I'm debating an exchange. The exchanged one might be worse. What to do.
Mithos
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My KDL-50"2805b has 1 pixel broken too, but its always black, located 5cm/5cm from top left corner.
Received my Sony W805B 50" today.
Not really sure what to think about it right now. I might've expected too much.
Now I'm waiting for it to get dark, so I can check out the uniformity and calibrate it a little. Can anyone tell me what I should use to check for DSE and clouding? And if anyone has any good settings I can use as a starting point, that would be appreciated as well.
I have 30 days to try it out before potentially returning it, and I still have my Kuro, so not a big deal if it doesn't meet my expectations.
Not really sure what to think about it right now. I might've expected too much.
Now I'm waiting for it to get dark, so I can check out the uniformity and calibrate it a little. Can anyone tell me what I should use to check for DSE and clouding? And if anyone has any good settings I can use as a starting point, that would be appreciated as well.
I have 30 days to try it out before potentially returning it, and I still have my Kuro, so not a big deal if it doesn't meet my expectations.
I have a few dead pixels on my TV (different model but the same logic applies) it bugs me knowing they're there but I can't see them from normal viewing distance.
What about any other flaws? Backlight bleed? Clouding? Banding? If your TVs is good in these areas how would you feel if you get a replacement that has no dead pixels, but then you have a shit load of backlight bleed?
Backlight bleed would be noticeable from normal viewing distance, can you see your dead pixel?
Broken Hope
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argh, got my TV yesterday (Sony KDL50W800B) and it has one dead subpixel (only shows black on red background, aqua on white). It is off the the left side of the screen. It's from amazon and I'm debating an exchange. The exchanged one might be worse. What to do.
You're not going to see a dead pixel at normal viewing distances, so why risk getting an even worse set?
Dr. Zoidberg
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Welcome to the shitty game of modern TV buying. It's always a gamble like on "Let's Make A Deal". Do you want to take the flawed set in front of you or do you want to trade for what's in the box that Stacey is bringing down the aisle? Think carefully! The box could either contain a pristine TV, or some squealing piglets.
Better hope the new one doesn't have terrible light bleed.
Why would you choose to replace your 9G Pioneer Kuro -- an emissive display technology capable of some of the best picture quality, contrast ratio and black level in existence -- with an LCD?