Plasma, LCD, OLED, LED, best tv for next gen

Dewoh said:
Then let me rephrase that: The currently available OLEDs are not ready for gaming.
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No problems, here. Running the LG 9100 (2016 model). No idea if they improved it from the 2015 models, but I currently prefer the LG to my Sony X940C which I believe runs at 30ms in game mode.
 
Dewoh said:
"The Panasonic 65CZ952’s fastest input lag is a hefty 74 ms, which makes it unsuitable for all but the most sedate gaming use."

OLED is not ready for gaming.
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The 65CZ952 was developed in 2014 along side the AX900. Pretty much the same internals including awful input lag. That's why it doesn't have some of the 2015 features like Firefox OS, etc. At this point I hope they just kill it off and launch an all new model. I can't find the link but I remember reading during IFA that Panasonic said they were planning to offer more OLED models in 2016 including flats.
 
MrJames said:
The 65CZ952 was developed in 2014 along side the AX900. Pretty much the same internals including awful input lag. That's why it doesn't have some of the 2015 features like Firefox OS, etc. At this point I hope they just kill it off and launch an all new model. I can't find the link but I remember reading during IFA that Panasonic said they were planning to offer more OLED models in 2016 including flats.
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Hopefully.

I wish I could get a 65 inch OLED with 25ish ms input lag for $4k. And world peace too, I suppose.
 
So I've been eyeing Samsung UE55JU7005XXE (Nordic version of JU7000) for a while. It still costs a bit under 1500€

Now our local retailer sells Sony 55X8505CBAE for 999€ (normally 1299€)

The Sony one is 100hz vs Samsung's 200hz. Also Sony one has slightly worse input lag (35ms vs 26ms IIRC).

Should I still wait for the Samsung to come on possible sale, or just get the Sony now?
 
MrJames said:
I can only hope that the Samsung they showed at IFA wasn't final hardware and that we get dual HDMI on the production model. A lack of dual outs would seem weird when they are supporting other more advanced features like dual band wifi, web browser, etc. I'm also hoping all the players have good 4K app support. I'd rather use an outboard player with dual HDMI connections than have to deal with TV apps that are limited to ARC.
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Looks like dual HDMI on the Samsung model.

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http://www.samsung.com/id/support/skp/faq/1098273?CID=AFL-hq-mul-0813-11000279
 
shungokusatsu said:
No problems, here. Running the LG 9100 (2016 model). No idea if they improved it from the 2015 models, but I currently prefer the LG to my Sony X940C which I believe runs at 30ms in game mode.
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Ditto. I have LG 9100 here and have no problem other than the fact that it makes everything look amazing so I want to use it all the time.
 
Just sold a panasonic 50ax802b 4k which was one of the better rated 4k tv's and bought a 55 inch lg ec930v oled. Wow. Hands down the oled is better. In dark scenes in games it lends a lushness and colour that's fantastic. I was able to game at 4k with 780ti sli on the panny, but the oled looks better still. Plus 1080p stuff seems sharper and more natural on the 1080p oled. Just hope they sell enough oled tv's to justify keep making them .
 
Probably be 2 years before I replace our main TV (an old but very good 46" Panasonic plasma).

Hoping by then there will be 4K OLED's around 65" for around $2K.
 
shungokusatsu said:
No problems, here. Running the LG 9100 (2016 model). No idea if they improved it from the 2015 models, but I currently prefer the LG to my Sony X940C which I believe runs at 30ms in game mode.
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Actually, the EG9100 has higher input lag than the EC9300. The input lag on the EG9100 is over 40 ms, ~10 ms more than the EC9300.

I have/had the EG9100, but the input lag was very noticable for me. I'm returning it today actually.
 
4 series / 8 OLED models (curved and flat)
55/65/77"
2.57 mm thickness, wall mountable.
Electronics and speakers (G6 only) contained in stand
99% DCI color
10 bit HDR10 and DolbyVision
WebOS 3.0
UHDA Premium

also LCDs with HDR10/DolbyVision including 98" 8k production TV.
Ridley Scott Superball ad incoming.

Edit: TV segment is over.
 
ScepticMatt said:
4 series / 8 OLED models.
55/65/77"
2.57 mm thickness
electronics and speakers contained in stand
99% DCI color
10 bit HDR10 and DolbyVision
UHDA Premium

also LCDs with HDR10/DolbyVision including 98" 8k production TV.
Ridley Scott Superball ad incoming.
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:kreygasm:
 
Input lag info probably going to take months to hear about. If I recall correctly, they usually don't show until the tv gets reviewed. Bleh.
 
Press release: http://ces2016.lgnewsroom.com/news/lg-introduce-new-4k-hdr-enabled-oled-tv-lineup-ces-2016-2/

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LAS VEGAS, Jan. 5, 2016 — LG Electronics (LG) will be exhibiting its newest flagship 4K HDR-enabled OLED TVs at the 2016 CES from Jan. 6-9, led by the flagship 77/65-inch G6 and 65/55-inch E6 models. All eight new models will feature LG’s premium technologies including OLED displays, 4K resolution and high dynamic range, which LG implements in the G6 and E6 as HDR Pro.

All 2016 OLED TV models from LG feature the Ultra HD Premium seal of recognition from the UHD Alliance for meeting the demanding standards set by the industry organization for resolution, high dynamic range, peak luminance, black levels, wide color gamut and audio quality, among other criteria. The new TV lineup supports the industry-standard HDR formats established by the world’s leading broadcasters, film studios and consumer electronics manufacturers such as HDR10 and Dolby Vision™.

The G6 and E6 are the first TVs from LG to feature the company’s unique Picture-On-Glass design, which boast an ultra-thin 2.57mm OLED panel with a translucent glass back and forward-facing sound bar speaker system. By focusing on TV technologies directly related to picture and sound quality, both the G6 and E6 represent a whole new level of home entertainment innovation.

On OLED TVs, HDR becomes something else to behold, its capabilities enriched by OLED’s Pixel Dimming technology. Unlike LCD displays where the LED backlight locally dims entire sections of the screen, each pixel on an OLED panel can switch on and off independently. As a result, OLED TVs render crisp, vibrant colors and shadow details, even when bright objects are directly next to deep, dark areas. This ability ensures that images are displayed in perfect black as well as in vibrant colors, making OLED TVs the ideal medium for HDR content.

With 10-bit panel and 10-bit processing power, LG’s OLED TVs have access to more than a billion possible color options and ColorPrime Pro technology gives these TVs the ability to display the finest details of color and gradation. And with support for BT.2020, the next-generation standard for broadcast and distribution, the G6 and E6 are future-proof with a higher color reproduction rate.

Developed in partnership with high-end audio pioneer harman/kardon, the LG G6 and E6 are designed with a front-firing sound bar speaker system. With the speakers pointing forward, not downward like many thin TVs, viewers will hear clean, detailed audio without any distortion and reflection. The sound bar system is equipped with extra woofers to bolster the power of the speakers, setting LG OLED TVs apart from other stylish, ultra-thin TVs.

The 2016 OLED TV lineup come with the newest iteration of LG’s webOS content management platform. LG webOS 3.0 provides an exceptional user experience to help LG SMART TV users more intuitively navigate the TV’s many features. Since its commercial introduction in 2015, webOS has been praised as one of the most versatile smart TV platforms by major media titles. With enhanced mobile connectivity, remote features and more content options, LG webOS 3.0 is expected to appeal to even more discerning customers than its predecessor.

“Our 2016 OLED TV lineup features a long list of innovations, such as Picture-on-Glass design and HDR Pro which are prominent and key features in the G6 and E6 models,” said Brian Kwon, President and CEO at LG’s Home Entertainment Company. “By upping our OLED TV game every year, we are driving innovation in the TV space so that more consumers will see and hear about the benefits of owning an OLED TV. We think 2016 will be a game changer for this category.”

The LG G6 and E6, among other new LG products, will be on display at CES with plans to start its global rollout in March. For more information about LG products at CES, please visit www.LGnewsroom.com/ces2016 .
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My local Best Buy has a 55" OLED (EC9300) on clearance/open box for $1000.

The catch? It was their display model that ran their demo loop almost 24/7 for a year or more. Too risky.

What would the price have to be to get you to bite on such a well-worn OLED?
 
Dr. Zoidberg said:
My local Best Buy has a 55" OLED (EC9300) on clearance/open box for $1000.

The catch? It was their display model that ran their demo loop almost 24/7 for a year or more. Too risky.

What would the price have to be to get you to bite on such a well-worn OLED?
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One that's been running that long? I couldn't buy it, way too risky. I'd never be happy with it knowing it's former life.
 
Dr. Zoidberg said:
My local Best Buy has a 55" OLED (EC9300) on clearance/open box for $1000.

The catch? It was their display model that ran their demo loop almost 24/7 for a year or more. Too risky.

What would the price have to be to get you to bite on such a well-worn OLED?
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Well, odds are it isn't in BAD shape. It's not like someone has been abusing it. It's just been on quite a bit.

You'd be getting it for 1/2 price. What's the return policy? And would it be just something to hold you over for a couple years?
 
Dr. Zoidberg said:
My local Best Buy has a 55" OLED (EC9300) on clearance/open box for $1000.

The catch? It was their display model that ran their demo loop almost 24/7 for a year or more. Too risky.

What would the price have to be to get you to bite on such a well-worn OLED?
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If they only had it on during business hours and ran it for a year, you're looking at 4000 hours minimum. More concerning: if they ran LG's own demo material instead of their own then it'll have burn in. (a big old OLED TV logo plastered across the center)

I wouldn't bite at any price, but then again I haven't been impressed with OLED in general. (yet)
 
Dewoh said:
You'd be getting it for 1/2 price. What's the return policy? And would it be just something to hold you over for a couple years?
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I'd have 45 days to return it, and yes, if I was looking at this model it would be as a cheap hold-over until better OLEDs came along, but it would have to be cheaper than that to get me to bite. Maybe $600-700. And with my luck it would have burn-in or horrible banding for sure. I was mainly curious what you guys thought of the deal.

Fitts said:
If they only had it on during business hours and ran it for a year, you're looking at 4000 hours minimum. More concerning: if they ran LG's own demo material instead of their own then it'll have burn in. (a big old OLED TV logo plastered across the center)
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The Best Buy TV guy said their demo sets pretty much ran 24/7, even on holidays, and since it's been on display around a year you're looking at 9000 hours already, give or take a few hundred.
 
MrJames said:
Samsung UHD BD player available for preorder. $400. Ships March.

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/samsung...er-black/4853800.p?id=bb4853800&skuId=4853800
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Now I didn't do much research into this, but what's the hardware difference to justify this massive price increase? New laser w/wavelength, or is it just suspect price gouging of early adopters? It has things like multiple Hdmi, which I suspect is for either dual output or rumored 2.0a/1.4 outputs.

Regardless, will wait for Sony, Pioneer, or Oppo to show their hardware and probably go with those instead. Bad luck with Samsung BRplayers.
 
Jigolo said:
woooo DAMN. Anyone recall how much launch BD players were?
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The PS3 was the cheapest BD player when they first launched at $499 / $599 depending on the model. Standalone units were hundreds more, I believe the one my brother bought at launch was around $950.
 
An AVS poster has posted some of the differences between the models

Yes, only the B6 has no 3D. C, E and G6 with 3D.

G6 = flat, Signature Line, Soundbar, 3D, 65-77", March release
E6 = flat, Soundbar, 3D, 55-65", March release
C6 = curved, 3D, 55"-65", "later" 1H 2016 (could als mean after IFA 2016)
B6 = budget line, no 3D, 55"-65", "later" 1H 2016 (could als mean after IFA 2016)

All with DV and HDR10.
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Looks like LG have turned to flat as their flagship TV again, lol

Hope for more screen sizes at next years CES

Qwell said:
The PS3 was the cheapest BD player when they first launched at $499 / $599 depending on the model. Standalone units were hundreds more, I believe the one my brother bought at launch was around $950.
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Wow.
 
Jigolo said:
Looks like LG have turned to flat as their flagship TV again, lol

Wow.
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Good. No complaints from me with the flagship being flat. Comes in a 77", so curious what the price will be since they'll inflate it with the worthless soundbar built into the brainbox.

I remember Sony, Phillips, and someone else had launch rack BDplayers for $1200+.

I still want to know what's the justifiable reason the new players are that much.
 
Hi guys,

I bought a Sony PVM OLED monitor:





The image is fantastic. I plan to use it for retro gaming as well as YouTube viewing (as a secondy monitor for my PC)

Any questions, let me know.

Regards
 
March release isn't bad. But those soundbars are going to make them very expensive. Are there no new models without them?
 
6 new ViewSonic FreeSync monitors
1 new ViewSonic G-Sync monitor
1 other new ViewSonic monitor

Other recent gaming monitors:
2 new LG FreeSync monitors
5 other new LG monitors
AOC U2879VF FreeSync monitor
Acer XR342CK FreeSync monitor
Acer Predator X34 G-Sync Monitor
Lenovo Y27g G-Sync Monitor

TCL have updated their TV lineup, including one 65" HDR TV with 288 zones.
Samsung presser is up next (2PM PT / 5PM ET) followed by Sony 3 hours later.

ViewSonic Press release said:
ViewSonic Corp., a leading global provider of visual solution products, announces a new series of professional-level gaming monitors at CES 2016 in Las Vegas. ViewSonic's XG Series of high-performance gaming monitors feature critical color depth with a range of Full HD to 4K UHD resolution, NVIDIA's G-Sync or AMD's FreeSync variable refresh rate technology, ultra-fast response times, super low input lag, and more, to drive dedicated enthusiasts, diehards, and professional gamers to more victories.

From first-person shooters and real-time strategy to multi-player or action-adventure gaming, ViewSonic's XG Series of gaming monitors is packed with all the professional-level features needed for that competitive edge that leads to more victories. The XG Series is specially engineered to meet the demanding needs of gamers and is loaded with the premium features needed to dominate and defeat any and all opponents.


"With up to 4K UHD resolution and 1ms response time, ViewSonic's XG Series delivers some of the fastest response times and best color depth seen in monitors designed for gaming," said Al Giazzon, vice president of marketing at ViewSonic Americas. "We're known as an industry leader for providing some of the highest quality and feature-rich professional monitors, it is simply a natural extension that ViewSonic would provide the best professional-level monitors for gamers."

XG2703-GS
ViewSonic's XG2703-GS puts players right in the middle of the action with Quad HD 2560 x 1440 resolution and 165Hz SuperClear IPS-type panel technology. This 27-inch flagship monitor provides exceptional color and critical detail with ultra-wide viewing angles. For seamless gaming performance, the monitor is built with NVIDIA G-Sync technology that eliminates screen-tearing and stuttering for the smoothest gameplay.

XG2401
The XG2401 is a 24-inch Full HD monitor packed with features like a 144Hz refresh rate, and AMD's FreeSync variable refresh rate technology that eliminate screen tearing and stuttering for fluid gameplay during fast-paced action scenes. A blazing-fast 1ms response time and low input lag provides smooth screen performance - even in the most graphic-intense sequences. For optimum speed and performance, SmartSync technology automatically selects the best refresh rate, response time, and lowest input lag needed in FPS games. A black stabilization function helps players spot enemies lurking in the dark, while maintaining brilliant rich colors and contrast.

XG2701
The 27-inch XG2701 Full HD monitor features an incredible 144Hz refresh rate and AMD FreeSync technology to help blow away the competition in fast action gaming. The monitor's variable refresh rate capabilities eliminates screen tearing while a super-fast 1ms response time and low input lag provides smooth screen performance. SmartSync technology automatically selects the best refresh rate and response time, and also delivers ultra-low input lag needed in first person shooting games. The XG2701 comes with Game Mode features and a black stabilization function that helps with dark-on-dark images.

XG2700-4K
The ViewSonic XG2700-4K Ultra HD LED gaming monitor delivers stunning visual definition and color for highly immersive gameplay. The 27-inch monitor delivers 4K UHD (3840x2160) resolution and SuperClear IPS panel technology with over 8 million pixels of sharp and refined color so players have an unmatched level of detail. In combination with AMD's FreeSync Technology, the VX2700-4K delivers a consistent tear-free picture-perfect front of screen experience, while the fast 5ms response time and low input lag provide smooth performance. The Game Mode feature optimizes AAA visuals, while a black stabilization function helps target enemies hiding in the dark. This monitor includes future-proof connectivity including DisplayPort 1.2a and HDMI 2.0 so it can reach the maximum potential of any extreme graphics card and support 4K UHD resolution at 60Hz.

From gamer-inspired ergonomic design features like an integrated headphone hook and cable management, to Flicker-Free technology and Blue Light Filter for eye comfort, everything about ViewSonic's XG Series has been considered with the gamer in mind to help.

VX SERIES OF ULTRA-FAST GAMING & ENTERTAINMENT MONITORS
ViewSonic continues its award-winning VX Series legacy by announcing four new VX gaming and entertainment-specific monitors at CES 2016.

The new 22-inch VX2257-mhd, 24-inch VX2457-mhd, and 27-inch VX2757-mhd Full HD monitors deliver ultra-fast 2ms response times and a low input lag mode for smooth screen performance that is free from blurring or ghosting. Equipped with VESA Adaptive-Sync technology and AMD FreeSync technology, the variable refresh rate capabilities of these monitors virtually eliminate screen tearing and stuttering for fluid game play during fast-paced action scenes.

The 1080p Full HD 27-inch VX2776-Smhd monitor is engineered with SuperClear IPS panel technology, a sleek and contemporary borderless design, 178/178 degree wide viewing angle, and extensive connectivity including VGA, HDMI, and DP built-in stereo speaker making this the ideal multimedia display to view entertainment like action packed movies, sports and more.

Pricing and Availability:
The XG2401 will be available for a MSRP of $404.00 (USD) and starts shipping late January
The XG2701 will be available for a MSRP of $529.00 (USD) and starts shipping late January
The XG2700-4K will be available for a MSRP of $913.00 (USD) and starts shipping late January
The XG2703-GS will be available for a MSRP of $1,217.00 (USD) and starts shipping March
The VX2257-mhd will be available for a MSRP of $201.00 (USD) and is available now
The VX2457-mhd will be available for a MSRP of $228.00 (USD) and starts shipping February
The VX2757-mhd will be available for a MSRP of $323.00 (USD) and is available now
The VX2776-smhd will be available for a MSRP of $317.00 (USD) and starts shipping April
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LG press release said:
SEOUL, Dec. 16, 2015 — With computers playing an indispensable role in professional and leisure lives, LG Electronics (LG) will be unveiling a new lineup of products to allow consumers more freedom to customize their work and play space to better fit their growing needs. At CES 2016, LG will showcase its newest 21:9 UltraWide™ monitors, 4K gaming monitors and Ultra PC gram laptop, all designed for maximum productivity and entertainment for today’s demanding power users.

LG’s monitor exhibition at CES will feature a number of dream setups built around LG’s impressive monitor lineup. One setup for gamers and digital professionals will be based around the wide 34-inch, 21:9 Curved UltraWide™ Monitor (model 34UC98) featuring Thunderbolt™ 2. The 3440 x 1440 QHD monitor’s large screen size, picture quality-enhancing IPS technology and streamlined features are designed to meet the needs of a wide range of users from avid gamers to digital media professionals, delivering a well-rounded multimedia experience for content creators and viewers alike.

The LG 34UC88 offers an amazing QHD picture with its expansive 21:9 Curved UltraWide™ display. Equally stunning is LG’s Ultra HD 4K Monitor (model 27UD68) for images so sharp gaming will never be the same again. Both monitors utilize AMD’s advanced FreeSync technology for a seamless, fluid gaming experience free of artifacts, choppiness and broken frames.

At its CES booth, LG will also showcase its flat 21:9 UltraWide™ 34UM88 Monitor, the perfect workstation for digital professionals such as photographers and graphic designers who depend on precise image reproduction. The wider field of view of this monitor enhances productivity by creating a bigger workspace in which to view photos side-by-side and work on multiple applications at the same time. And the monitor’s Thunderbolt™ 2 compatibility is indispensable for artists who work with large image and video files.

Also debuting at CES is the LG Ultra HD 4K Monitor (model 27UD88), a 27-inch monitor designed for creative professionals featuring the latest USB-C port technology. Representing the next generation of computer connectivity, the monitor allows users to charge a laptop as fast as with a dedicated power cord and simultaneously transfer data at USB 3.0 speeds. The single cable gives users the ability to connect their laptops to an external monitor while also using the monitor as a power source, eliminating the need for more cables. The 27UD88 also offers color presets including the popular Rec. 709 and SMPTE-C broadcasting standards, giving users a fast and easy way to adjust the picture depending on the content displayed on the screen.

In addition to its proprietary color-enhancing IPS display technology, LG will debut a number of impressive design elements in its 2016 monitor lineup. The virtually invisible bezel on select Infinity Display model(24MP88) and the elegant ArcLine Stand add touches of elegance that matches the stunning beauty of their IPS displays.

Visitors to LG’s booth at CES will also have a chance to experience the company’s newest portable PCs firsthand. Despite its large 15.6-inch screen, the LG gram 15 (model 15Z960) is barely larger than a conventional 14-inch laptop. As the lightest 15-inch laptop in the world, the LG gram 15 is built to be durable while maintaining a weight of just 980 grams, making this lightweight laptop the perfect choice for busy office workers or students with busy schedules. With a 6th Gen Intel® Core™ processors and Windows 10, the LG gram 15 prioritizes both productivity and mobility.

“We are always thrilled to be able to show international audiences our newest monitor and PC innovations at CES,” said Jang Ik-hwan, head of the monitor and PC division at LG Electronics. “LG is always innovating to exceed customers’ expectations by creating products that provide breathtaking aesthetics and unparalleled user experience.”

Attendees of CES 2016 are encouraged to stop by LG’s booth at the Las Vegas Convention Center in Central Hall #8204 from Jan. 6-9 to see LG’s newest monitor and PC products for themselves.
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I might buy a UHD bluray player around Xmas 2016. Hopefully the price is lower by then.

How is the UHD bluray selection going to be this year anyway?
 
Dr. Zoidberg said:
The Best Buy TV guy said their demo sets pretty much ran 24/7, even on holidays, and since it's been on display around a year you're looking at 9000 hours already, give or take a few hundred.
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Jesus... I figured they would kill the power to everything when the store isn't open. That's incredibly wasteful.
 
Fitts said:
Jesus... I figured they would kill the power to everything when the store isn't open. That's incredibly wasteful.
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I'm not terribly surprised. They probably don't want to spend 20 minutes walking around and cutting on/off all those TVs every morning and night. The people at this Best Buy are nice but they seem pretty lazy. Some of them have recently started working the floor in their street clothes (i.e. jeans and t-shirts) instead of wearing the BB Polos. Not sure if that's corporate approved or not but it's pretty unprofessional.
 
Dr. Zoidberg said:
I'm not terribly surprised. They probably don't want to spend 20 minutes walking around and cutting on/off all those TVs every morning and night. The people at this Best Buy are nice but they seem pretty lazy. Some of them have recently started working the floor in their street clothes (i.e. jeans and t-shirts) instead of wearing the BB Polos. Not sure if that's corporate approved or not but it's pretty unprofessional.
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I wonder if BB did a cost/benefit analysis and determined that it would cost more to pay humans to come in early to turn everything on that it does to leave everything on overnight.
 
Quixzlizx said:
Is anyone going to be releasing <50" OLED models?
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TVs? Right now LG is the only one making them, so no. Samsung and Sony make phone and monitor-sized screens. TCL will start up OLED production next.

Edit: Samsung live: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T25-97avBug

SUHD TVs
KS9500 Series
Samsung-TV-Lineup-KS9500
Samsung 65KS9500
The KS9500 Series marks Samsung's flagship level TVs for 2016, and includes 65-, 77-, and 88-inch models. This series is the spiritual successor to last year's JS9500 Series and, like those TVs, delivers HDR compatibility, quantum dot color, and 4K resolution. The bezel-less curved screen features design aesthetics that extend to the back of the TV, too, resulting in a product that looks great from every angle.

KEY SPECS:
&#8226; Prices pending
&#8226; 65-, 77-, or 88-inch curved bezel-less TVs
&#8226; 4K/UHD resolution w/ upscaling
&#8226; Quantum Dot-enhanced color
&#8226; HDR compatibility at 1,000 nits brightness
&#8226; 360-degree design focus
&#8226; Built-in IoT/home automation hub w/ Tizen platform
KS8500 Series (UN65KS8500)
The flat KS8500 TVs are one step down from the KS9500 flagship, and mark a continuation of Samsung's JS8500 SUHD series from last year. These 4K options offer many of the same great specs as the KS9500, including the emphasis on 360-degree design, quantum dot color, HDR contrast performance, and 4K resolution.

KEY SPECS:
&#8226; Prices pending
&#8226; 65-inch flat SUHD TV
&#8226; 4K/UHD resolution w/ upscaling
&#8226; Quantum Dot-enhanced color
&#8226; HDR compatibility at 1,000 nits brightness
&#8226; 360-egree design focus
&#8226; Built-in IoT/home automation hub w/ Tizen platform

Also a 98" TV.
 
J-Rzez said:
Now I didn't do much research into this, but what's the hardware difference to justify this massive price increase? New laser w/wavelength, or is it just suspect price gouging of early adopters? It has things like multiple Hdmi, which I suspect is for either dual output or rumored 2.0a/1.4 outputs.

Regardless, will wait for Sony, Pioneer, or Oppo to show their hardware and probably go with those instead. Bad luck with Samsung BRplayers.
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Added processing costs perhaps. Economies of scale may be a factor since they probably won't make nearly as many so early. It allows you to rip to a HDD via USB. Not sure if the digital bridge function of UHD Blu-ray will work like that though.

The Panasonic model they showed with THX badges just looks like it's going to cost $1,000+.

I added the K8500 to my cart on the BB site and it listed a ship date of Feb. 22nd. 4K Blu-rays are showing up on the site too for $30 each.

I missed the Samsung event but it sounded disappointing. The K9500 is actually edge-lit so it compares more to the JS9000. Not sure how 1000 nits is going to look on that. There is a flagship K9800 with FALD but they didn't even show it. Their best TV being a no-show doesn't sound very good.

LG did great with their new OLED lineup. All but the entry level model still supports 3D. Dolby Vision is a nice bonus with UHD BD, Vudu and Netflix supporting it. The 65" E and C models are on my radar. I'll have to wait and see about pricing, specs and reviews.

Your turn Sony.
 
MrJames said:
Added processing costs perhaps. Economies of scale may be a factor since they probably won't make nearly as many so early. It allows you to rip to a HDD via USB. Not sure if the digital bridge function of UHD Blu-ray will work like that though.

The Panasonic model they showed with THX badges just looks like it's going to cost $1,000+.

I added the K8500 to my cart on the BB site and it listed a ship date of Feb. 22nd. 4K Blu-rays are showing up on the site too for $30 each.

I missed the Samsung event but it sounded disappointing. The K9500 is actually edge-lit so it compares more to the JS9000. Not sure how 1000 nits is going to look on that. There is a flagship K9800 with FALD but they didn't even show it. Their best TV being a no-show doesn't sound very good.

LG did great with their new OLED lineup. All but the entry level model still supports 3D. Dolby Vision is a nice bonus with UHD BD, Vudu and Netflix supporting it. The 65" E and C models are on my radar. I'll have to wait and see about pricing, specs and reviews.

Your turn Sony.
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Sony surprising with an OLED panel would be cool. I know they are working under JOLED for smaller stuff and showing something big here would be the biggest surprise of CES. Not getting my hopes up tho
 
Yaari said:
Not having their flagship TV present seems just so weird. What's the deal with that. Bleh.
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Yeah, Samsung is going to create a bit of confusion with the 9500 numberings. The 2015 version was their top of the line FALD, and this year it's an upper mid range edge-lit TV.

Their top model is now the 9800, which is a FALD tv. http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-ks9500-series/

Curious as to what it'll cost. The 2015 FALD is in the $4k range, and what I'm currently using. Since the 2016 version is curved as well, I may end up keeping my 2015 model. I'm still in the return window and was waiting for CES to show its goods before making a final decision.
 
About that Panny OLED: Motion resolution 650 with [IFC] engaged; 300 otherwise

Wtf? I thought OLEDs would have 1080 lines of motion resolution?
 
Dr. Zoidberg said:
I'd have 45 days to return it, and yes, if I was looking at this model it would be as a cheap hold-over until better OLEDs came along, but it would have to be cheaper than that to get me to bite. Maybe $600-700. And with my luck it would have burn-in or horrible banding for sure. I was mainly curious what you guys thought of the deal.



The Best Buy TV guy said their demo sets pretty much ran 24/7, even on holidays, and since it's been on display around a year you're looking at 9000 hours already, give or take a few hundred.
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You can check the runtime hours in the settings menu.
 
Anyone know if the ec9300 v5 firmware is worse than v4 for input lag? Right now it's great, so I don't want to risk it without some knowledge.
 
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