Plasma, LCD, OLED, LED, best tv for next gen
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BruceLeeRoy
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The W900 is supposed to be the leader of the pack right now but If your looking to save some money and don't care about really high end PQ this Samsung came up as a great alternative in my search:
Samsung UN50F6400
I wont ever spend another dime on a samsung product personally, either way ive never seen an 8000 LED that doesn't look horrid, no offense, though I can't claim to have seen one professionally calibrated either so eh.
this is what i'm leaning towards currently. i have some massive windows, but they are mostly north-ish facing so i dont get huge amounts of light. i will definitely get glare - but my house has fucking full on electronic shutters, so lighting shouldnt be a major issue.
my parents have the st though. i should try to log some time in halo 4 online over there to see if i can even notice the lag.
BruceLeeRoy
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If your parents have the ST I would definitely try gaming on it to see if you notice the lag. Its the best bang for your buck if you aren't sensitive to it.
H_Prestige
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Actually even the cheaper Panasonics have pretty low black levels that I would imagine LEDs still can't match. They just look ugly and have awful screen filters which give them a washed out appearance.
Samsungs actually have the best picture right out of the box but I'm not sure how it compares in a showroom in "Retailer" setting blasting a Vivid picture (it can blow away the Sony in terms of brightness). The Sony equals them with a little fiddling. For any given parameter it is almost a toss-up though. The Sony currently has better input lag but the Samsung has upgrade-able inputs and processors so who knows a year from now.
Both great sets. Sony only 55" but the Samsung goes all the way to 75" (and costs a fortune).
Codeblew
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Thanks for that. My current 1080P LCD is a Samsung that I bought with my PS3. I really like it but it has one major flaw that can only be fixed with a new main board. It has issues with HDCP which causes the the picture to black out randomly on 1080p content. It wasn't much of an issue with PS3 but it is getting annoying with the PS4. I should have waited for the first revision instead of buying the model when it was first released.
Unknown Soldier
Member
This is why I just used my TV out of the box.
I've been leaving it on 24/7 and running the screen wiper and the slides when I'm not using the TV. When I'm using the TV, I'm using it. Period. IDGAF about this IR shit anymore, because if the TV can't handle my normal usage when it's new, it ain't gonna be handling it a year down the road. I need to use it as much as possible during the first 30 days so I can decide to keep it or not based on my normal usage.
I'm probably keeping this thing, the picture quality is beyond belief.
How do I know what the neutral setting is?
This is true for all of the Panasonic plasma line. If you want one, get it now.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
i'll be getting an s60 in a few weeks, how are you liking it?
decided against getting a black friday unit.
only thing that gives me pause with the s60 is the 2 hdmi ports, why ooo why panasonic would you give us 2 fucking hdmi ports in 2013?
Unknown Soldier
Member
Killzone looks amazing on this TV. Well I suppose it would look amazing on any TV, but still. Chapter 3 in particular lets the thing show off it's deep penetrating black levels. You'll see.
I saw the 65" S60 at my local Costco for like $1200. Get on that shit now if you want one.
There are only 3 HDMI connectors on the top-shelf VT60 and ZT60. Panasonic don't give a fuck about your HDMI's and shit.
Knew that. Thought I would have until mid december to get one though(originally wanted to get one black friday). Saw one for $650 on amazon yesterday, then the price jumped up to near $800 today. Got on AVS forums and they said panasonic removed the 50" and 60" from their website. So decided to immediately snag one before it was too late and prices for it got too ridiculous. Haven't gotten to test mine out yet.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
fuuuuuck
i'm in the same boat. was looking to get that amazon one in december. still 699 at best buy for the time being but we'll see if that lasts.
Would anybody have some impressions or advices on wireless HDMI ?
I'm looking for a way to connect my A/V amp to both my projector ( in the same room but opposite wall ) and if possible another TV ( just a small wall behind the projector ).
I could use splitters, run HDMI cables and such, digging through walls etc, but it seems that wireless HDMi has jumped forward in terms of quality those last few years.
I'm looking for a way to connect my A/V amp to both my projector ( in the same room but opposite wall ) and if possible another TV ( just a small wall behind the projector ).
I could use splitters, run HDMI cables and such, digging through walls etc, but it seems that wireless HDMi has jumped forward in terms of quality those last few years.
KolosLazar16
Member
So if I'm looking to get a 60" S60, when would be the best time?
Whenever. Amazon sold out and haven't restocked for weeks so probably gone there.
KolosLazar16
Member
I'm hoping it'll drop more during BF
If 0 looks blurry then it's probably 50%. If you're not sure just post your display model here and ask if someone knows, or you could try avsforum.
There's also calibration DVDs/Blu-rays with test patterns that will help you find it, but I haven't used any so I cant make a recommendation.
Also, any settings like "Edge Enhancement" should be turned off as well since they will obscure details. Personally, I turn all post processing off (edge enhancement, dynamic contrast, noise & mpeg filters, etc.)
Couchaddict
Member
I can't pick, too many variables I don't know about
I don't own an HD TV currently. I want to buy either a 42 or a 46 if it's cheap. Can't go bigger.
It's mostly going to be doing regular TV watching & Sports. Maybe stream a movie once in a while
GAF picks, I buy!
I don't own an HD TV currently. I want to buy either a 42 or a 46 if it's cheap. Can't go bigger.
It's mostly going to be doing regular TV watching & Sports. Maybe stream a movie once in a while
GAF picks, I buy!
talkinghead
Neo Member
Assuming i want to finally get a TV soon-ish, would my best bet be waiting for a firesale on Panasonic Plasmas?
(I plan on spending max. 700 Euros)
Also considering an entry-level DLP-Projector... anyone know anything about these, esp. in comparison to Plasmas?
(I plan on spending max. 700 Euros)
Also considering an entry-level DLP-Projector... anyone know anything about these, esp. in comparison to Plasmas?
Yea, guys, if you want a few of the best TV's money can buy right now (the Panasonic plasma's, S60, ST60, GT60, VT60, VT65 etc), you better pick them up quick because in another two weeks Panasonic are stopping all production on them. In-fact, the store I bought my VT65 from didn't have any future orders on their system, and I bought 1 of 2 left in stock. Still got my 5 year warranty though!
No chance. Not on the better one's. If anything the prices will go up. In-fact the cheapest prices on the GT60 have already gone up. The cheapest price for a P50GT60 used to be £1080, it's now £1140.
No chance. Not on the better one's. If anything the prices will go up. In-fact the cheapest prices on the GT60 have already gone up. The cheapest price for a P50GT60 used to be £1080, it's now £1140.
Because it's assumed if you have a high end TV, and enough devices for said TV, you have a receiver.
Of the Panasonic plasmas, are there any standouts that do better with response time/display lag than the rest?
I've found myself in the market for a 60+ inch TV and had at first decided to get something in the $1,000 to $1,500 range but now after looking closely at reviews I'm realizing I don't want to sacrifice on image quality and am getting more picky. Seems like while there are a lot of great displays in the $1,000 to $1,500 range, I should really go $2,000-$2,500 for something that'll truly impress.
Current TV is a 42 inch Sharp Aquos I think I purchased in 2007 (I remember hooking up my PC and playing Half-Life 2: Episode 2 on it). Nothing particularly wrong with it but I'm always impressed by display TVs in stores these days and feel like I can do a lot better.
All that said, any feedback on whether I should go mid-range or not is appreciated.
I've found myself in the market for a 60+ inch TV and had at first decided to get something in the $1,000 to $1,500 range but now after looking closely at reviews I'm realizing I don't want to sacrifice on image quality and am getting more picky. Seems like while there are a lot of great displays in the $1,000 to $1,500 range, I should really go $2,000-$2,500 for something that'll truly impress.
Current TV is a 42 inch Sharp Aquos I think I purchased in 2007 (I remember hooking up my PC and playing Half-Life 2: Episode 2 on it). Nothing particularly wrong with it but I'm always impressed by display TVs in stores these days and feel like I can do a lot better.
All that said, any feedback on whether I should go mid-range or not is appreciated.
I think the only one that is "bad" on lag is the ST model, despite being the best price/quality deal. Some people don't think the lag is that bad on it, though.
Yea, it seems it doesn't bother some people but I definitely don't want my upgrade to do worse than what's out there for similar prices. Definitely want the S60 if I can get it for under a grand. Hoping for a drop next week.
hellmonkey
Member
This stinks. Other that some IR, I love everything about my ut50. It was cheap, big, and the picture if insane. I know oled will be its replacement, but its not there yet and IR is worse, or so Ive heard, so it might not be good for gaming. Bah. Why do big lcds have to suck so much.
Samsung f8000s are awesome and go up to 75".
I don't understand why LCDs are so expensive. I paid $2200 for a set in 2007 which I just practically gave away. All the comparable 2013 sets are around $2000 as well.
Dang it. Could've gotten it tax free too.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Pagusas
Elden Member
... the hell? You have to be joking right? To this day I can not understand anyone who would drop 2k+ on a TV and use the built in speakers (for their primary setup). Its like someone spending a ton of money renovating their kitchen then throwing junky appliances into it.
I still think its a joke Sony released there 4k tv with ugly ass speakers mounted on its side (non-removable). So glad the recent update put out a model without them.
Anybody have experience with or know anything about this tv?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0074FGR74/?tag=neogaf0e-20
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0074FGR74/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Mattlikewhoa
Member
I don't find it to be that bad on the ST 50" I have in the bedroom...
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
no, i haven't used a receiver in years. been using the soundbar that came with my tv in 2009 and it's fine.
This can't be serious... I mean how would you expect to use surround sound without a receiver?
I mean sound bars have their place I guess, but they are no substitute for proper surround sound or better speakers. You certainly don't need to be an audiophile to appreciate the differences.
Baldwin_the_First
Member
I'm still searching for the settings that will make me go "this is the one" on my TC-P50S60 Plasma Panasonic 50" when playing video games.
I'm currently with Vivid mode with contrast down to 83, colors down to 50 and everything else down to 0 or off. But still, the blacks are sometimes crushed so it makes seeing in the dark a bit problematic. Any owners of the TV have found that one setting they stick with?
That Walt Disney World of Wonders blu-ray was sadly a mistake.
I'm currently with Vivid mode with contrast down to 83, colors down to 50 and everything else down to 0 or off. But still, the blacks are sometimes crushed so it makes seeing in the dark a bit problematic. Any owners of the TV have found that one setting they stick with?
That Walt Disney World of Wonders blu-ray was sadly a mistake.
:|
Soundbars' ability to do virtual surround is pretty crap. But if you're happy with it, I guess that's alright.
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
with a soundbar?
BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Did you try Cnets settings? I'm going to bounce between that and the WOW disc to see what my preference is.
Also, how long have you owned the display? The phosphors take around (150-200) hours to "settle" (or so I've read).
Also! What is your reference? What TV did you own before?
See, there is no problem with that at all. Soundbars actually work quite well in bedroom setup where space is at a premium, so I'm sure it sounds fine for you.
But your original statement was that receivers were useless if you weren't an audiophile, which is quite off base considering many of us have our systems in rooms with space for surround sound (family room, basement, den, etc).
ChronotriggerJM
Member
I wish someone would make a damn Dual Soundbar Set-up that would connect the rear speakers and sub woofer wirelessly. I just can't stand looking at those wires.