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I was looking to get the Sony KDL-65W850A because of the reviews and price. It seems to be sold out everywhere. Any other recommendations? All I do is watch hockey and play ps4. :(
 
Testing various 4k sets at work the last few weeks. My ST60 bests them all in PQ hands down even after being calibrated by the same guy. Other than the potential of IR, I love that set.
 
Testing various 4k sets at work the last few weeks. My ST60 bests them all in PQ hands down even after being calibrated by the same guy. Other than the potential of IR, I love that set.

It won't best the full array backlit Sonys doe. Like I had the ST60 and it was great but I think my calibrated 700B has a better picture (except complete black screen) than my non calibrated ST60.
 
been trying out the Samsung 65H8000 Curved TV
it's a definite upgrade from my Hitachi 42inch Plasma!

I'm actually testing the 65H8000 for six weeks as part of a contest - let me know if you guys have questions or anything you would like me to test or try out :D
 
Any advice for someone looking for a 32inch?


A lot of manufacturers only do low end 32" sets, or you only really find generic brands. I wouldnt spend a lot on a 32" to be honest, I would just look at spending less. Picture quality between them all isnt going to be drastic. You could pretty much just pick a brand you like or something cheap as possible, which ever you feel comfortable with.
 
been trying out the Samsung 65H8000 Curved TV
it's a definite upgrade from my Hitachi 42inch Plasma!

I'm actually testing the 65H8000 for six weeks as part of a contest - let me know if you guys have questions or anything you would like me to test or try out :D
I actually just bought that TV myself and have been pretty happy

Blacks are deeper than Sony and overall PQ is impressive. No downgrade compared to Sony 55w900

HU9000 is a waste of money in comparison.
 
I actually just bought that TV myself and have been pretty happy

Blacks are deeper than Sony and overall PQ is impressive. No downgrade compared to Sony 55w900

HU9000 is a waste of money in comparison.

sweet :D what are your settings!
i'm currently using movie mode and the sound seems to be a little soft :/

should I change to Game or PC while on consoles?
 
im searching these days for a new TV for my room to upgrade from the BENQ i had 6 years ago.
found this TV on one of our stores and fall in love with it :
UA40F7500
How about it GAF? the primary use for it is for gaming! the price for it here is : 909$
is there a better choice for 40/42 inch gaming TV within this budget ?
 
A lot of manufacturers only do low end 32" sets, or you only really find generic brands. I wouldnt spend a lot on a 32" to be honest, I would just look at spending less. Picture quality between them all isnt going to be drastic. You could pretty much just pick a brand you like or something cheap as possible, which ever you feel comfortable with.

Thanks for the links and information
Edit: will 120hz help with gaming?
Sure, just make sure you can handle it.
Smart ass
 
Testing various 4k sets at work the last few weeks. My ST60 bests them all in PQ hands down even after being calibrated by the same guy. Other than the potential of IR, I love that set.

I'd like to see Breaking Bad Season 5 in 4K on my Samsung 8550 vs. in 1080p on your ST60 before I concede that a 1080p set ever "bests" all 4K HDTVs in terms of PQ.
 
I actually just bought that TV myself and have been pretty happy

Blacks are deeper than Sony and overall PQ is impressive. No downgrade compared to Sony 55w900

HU9000 is a waste of money in comparison.

Interesting comment. I'm probably grabbing an hu9000 unless something blows me away at CES in January. I can get the 65" with free 8.1channel surround sound bar system for approx $2500 USD ( just over 2800 CDN).
 
My parents picked up a Sony KDL-46EX640, and I was wondering if there were any settings I can do to maximize the picture quality? I've turned off most of the additional stuff that I was told can muddy a picture, like MotionFlow or LiveColors, but I don't see any discernable difference.

Also, Wii U is my primary console, but I can't seem to find any setting to set the RGB to limited. Where is that option hiding? Or is it not there because I'm using an HDMI connection?
 
My parents picked up a Sony KDL-46EX640, and I was wondering if there were any settings I can do to maximize the picture quality? I've turned off most of the additional stuff that I was told can muddy a picture, like MotionFlow or LiveColors, but I don't see any discernable difference.

Also, Wii U is my primary console, but I can't seem to find any setting to set the RGB to limited. Where is that option hiding? Or is it not there because I'm using an HDMI connection?


Some TV's have other names for 'Limited/Full'. My Panasonic calls it "Standard/Nonstandard". Also, the option only appears if you're using HDMI or DVI. But they all should at least say "RGB something". If you find that, then you found the "limited/full" option.

If you're absolutely sure that the TV doesn't have that option, then the RGB will be limited by default.
 
Some TV's have other names for 'Limited/Full'. My Panasonic calls it "Standard/Nonstandard". Also, the option only appears if you're using HDMI or DVI. But they all should at least say "RGB something". If you find that, then you found the "limited/full" option.

If you're absolutely sure that the TV doesn't have that option, then the RGB will be limited by default.

Definitely no RGB settings that I've found in Picture, or Advanced settings, or anything.

I guess then if it is only limited, makes it easier to just change the default settings to that on my 360 and eventual PS4.

Is there anything else I should worry about, settings wise? Is there anything people can recommend beyond making everything as natural as possible?
 
You select limited/full on the new Sony's through one of the options in the Settings menu from the home screen. It's either in Pro Picture Setup somewhere or one of the menus related to input-specific options.
 
guys I have had a 46inch Sony Bravia KDLS5100 2012 model TV for years and have been thinking about updgrading TVS for awhile. Is now a good time to shop the HDTV market or should I wait? My TV isn't giving me any issues and is mainly used for gaming. Aside from the early auto-dim issues which was fixed with a firmware update it has been holding up well.
 
Thanks for the links and information
Edit: will 120hz help with gaming?

Smart ass
If it's simply a gaming display then I would probably consider the Toshiba on the list.
http://www.displaylag.com/best-hdtvs-gaming-2014-introduction/
Loving the 7150, but I've experienced this on a couple games...

http://youtu.be/4fX8gO4s8F4

Can't for the life of me figure out the cause!

Any ideas?

Everything else plays wonderfully!

http://youtu.be/iRMo9TEKfSo
Check your display drivers. I've seen this happen when displays had incorrectly set up color spaces.
 
I have an old 50inch Samsung 720p plasma and I've been thinking about upgrading. I was looking at a 55imch curved Samsung 1080p 4k led. I dont know much about tvs, is it worth the upgrade even though my tv is still working well other then a few red pixels that I notice one in a while? Are the curved tvs worth the price or any other suggestions? This was on sale for $1500
 
So, I haven't been following the TV market very close since 2011/2012. After trying out a few different TVs, I ended up with a brand new Pioneer Kuro LX-5090 in 2012. I guess my question is, how does that stack up against the new TVs on the market today? It has acceptable input lag, but how about PQ? I understand Sony W900 is highly regarded on here, but that the successor was actually worse? For comparison, is Sony W900 better than a Kuro, or just the best of the ones who are on the market today?
 
So, I haven't been following the TV market very close since 2011/2012. After trying out a few different TVs, I ended up with a brand new Pioneer Kuro LX-5090 in 2012. I guess my question is, how does that stack up against the new TVs on the market today? It has acceptable input lag, but how about PQ? I understand Sony W900 is highly regarded on here, but that the successor was actually worse? For comparison, is Sony W900 better than a Kuro, or just the best of the ones who are on the market today?

I would say OLED is the only clear upgrade from a Kuro, too many drawbacks with LCD.

Still pretty expensive, though prices are starting to reach affordable levels now. If you're lucky enough to have a Microcenter nearby the EA9800 is $2000 there. The newer EC9300 has lower input lag (sub 30ms I've heard), but it's $3500.

personally I am waiting for a 4K OLED. The 65" EC9700 is supposed to release next month for $10k, but I have hope we'll see it at $5k or below sometime in 2015.
 
LG to quadruple OLED TV production -

http://www.cnet.com/au/news/lg-to-quadruple-oled-panel-production-in-december/

Now, LG is preparing to start operations of its M2 line, which could produce up to 26,000 OLED panels per month when fully operational.

The M2 line is an 8th generation line, meaning it cuts 2,200x2,500m substrates into panels. The larger the glass substrate, the less waste material produced, meaning LG will cut costs in making panels. The M2 line will produce 55-, 65- and 77-inch panels.
 
Best Buy is going to have this for $200 on Thanksgiving, would it suit the needs of current gen consoles? I rarely ever buy TVs and with the limited budget, this caught my eye:

Panasonic 50" TC-50A400U, 1080p 60Hz LED

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/panasonic-50-class-49-1-2-diag--led-1080p-60hz-hdtv/4875001.p?id=1219104862306&skuId=4875001

Or, recommend a good 42-50" that won't break the bank? Located in NA.

It's a good brand, but 60 Hz for a 50" for someone who wants to game will be painful but maybe still better than what you were working with before depending on the age of your old set. At that price point, I can't recommend anything better but consider maybe financing a 120 Hz with low input lag at that size which would run you $500-$900. Best Buy is doing 24 months no interest right now which is what I did on my new Sony 4K I bought last month.
 
Hey all , looking to get a new tv and have a 3000$ budget, want a 65 inch min.
I was looking at the UN65H8000AFXZC from samsung and was wondering if anybody had feedback or simply give me their expertise on what to get.
 
Hey all , looking to get a new tv and have a 3000$ budget, want a 65 inch min.
I was looking at the UN65H8000AFXZC from samsung and was wondering if anybody had feedback or simply give me their expertise on what to get.
I own that TV.

It has extremely good blacks, the motion is near irreproachable, and color is overall very solid out of the box in movie mode.

The only downside is noticeable clouding in a full black screen, like an empty source screen, but the local dimming pretty eliminates it completely when watching content.

Letterbox bars are pitch black which is really nice. The dimming is overall very solid

The Curve really doesn't add or take away, and input lag is fairly good in game mode.

It is for sure the best 1080p set you can currently purchase at 65"
 
I own that TV.

It has extremely good blacks, the motion is near irreproachable, and color is overall very solid out of the box in movie mode.

The only downside is noticeable clouding in a full black screen, like an empty source screen, but the local dimming pretty eliminates it completely when watching content.

Letterbox bars are pitch black which is really nice. The dimming is overall very solid

The Curve really doesn't add or take away, and input lag is fairly good in game mode.

It is for sure the best 1080p set you can currently purchase at 65"

Amazing tx for the quick answer.....if anybody has other options plz let me know as i need to decide soon because i got that model at a good price that is ending in 2 days
 
Hey all , looking to get a new tv and have a 3000$ budget, want a 65 inch min.
I was looking at the UN65H8000AFXZC from samsung and was wondering if anybody had feedback or simply give me their expertise on what to get.

I agree with Dead. I currently testing this TV out for 6 weeks as part of a contest (currently in Week Two) and it's amazing :D

it's superb for gaming consoles too like the PS4 and WiiU

the image quality is really a step-up from my old TV

got more first impressions on my own blog
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EDIT: based on what I've read on AVS Forums and other sites, the input lag might be an issue. but switching to Game Mode seems to fix that. but it definitely can't compare to the Sony TVs (they have a ridiculously low input lag)
 
No way, Sony XBR65x850b. I have the 55, it's glorious. Look at them both side by side like I did, Sony's color and detail is way better in a comparison. Also, costs less:).
 
Hopefully we see some movement from Sony, Samsung and Panasonic, even if it involves using LG panels. LG video processing is so garbage. It turned me off buying their current oled

Sony OLED really interests me with their recent record of really low input lag TVs.
I'm curious to see how much of an issue IR is with future OLED TVs is though.
 
I actually have them at the same price. Any knowlegable person can give me a good comparison of both?

But the Samsung is 1080, Sony is 4K for the price. I took this picture of H8000 on top, Sony W950 on bottom which is lower series than X850 (W950 is Sony's equivalent to H7150/H8000.

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Looking to buy a TV for the first time in 5+ years, just want a new 32 inch for my desk to play games on. I'm looking at these two and not really sure if one is better than the other in any significant way.

Samsung UN32EH5000
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0071O4ETQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Toshiba 32L2400U
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00I0S70C0/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Or if there's another one for a comparable price that someone knows of.

I have that Samsung model in both of my arcade cabinets. It has a great picture and it has 1-2 frames of lag. That's pretty good price on them as well. I think I paid 350 for each of those a while back.

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But the Samsung is 1080, Sony is 4K for the price. I took this picture of H8000 on top, Sony W950 on bottom which is lower series than X850 (W950 is Sony's equivalent to H7150/H8000.
that doesnt come close to telling the real story

the W950 is a shitty LG panel with awful contrast, and near gray blacks when watched in a room dim lighitng or worse. It's no comparison to the H8000

The X850 also has a worse panel than the H8000 IIRC with definitely worse contrast and lighter blacks, it also lacks any sort of localized dimming

If you want a sony TV that will rival H8000, you need the X900B

comparing pictures in a store never means anything when it comes to tvs unfortunately
 
Just wanted to chime in here and report some experiences on different TVs. My job allows me to try different TVs.. Nothing OLED or 4K just yet...

Recently picked up a 32 inch LG LED 2014 model... Triple xd engine, 120 mci, game mode, etc.. The TV is fast as hell. It performs very close to the same speed as my 22 inch gaming monitor. It passed the Zen Pinball test. Input lag is not an issue with this little guy.

ALSO recently played Zen Pinball on a 70 inch Sharp Aquos LED and input lag killed the experience. Beautiful picture quality if you want to watch a movie, just not fast enough for gaming.

Carry on
 
that doesnt come close to telling the real story

the W950 is a shitty LG panel with awful contrast, and near gray blacks when watched in a room dim lighitng or worse. It's no comparison to the H8000

The X850 also has a worse panel than the H8000 IIRC with definitely worse contrast and lighter blacks, it also lacks any sort of localized dimming

If you want a sony TV that will rival H8000, you need the X900B

comparing pictures in a store never means anything when it comes to tvs unfortunately

I'm going to disagree, as clearly the panel doesn't make a difference in quality when Samsung LED sets in that range have unacceptable levels of saturation and much less detail. In those pictures above, I had the employees set the TVs to equal settings on a real TV channel running on component cables, not even HDMI. Also, the black levels of the W950 and X850 are truly black as they are dynamic edge lit, and in owning it, I can tell you blacks are black in the X850.

So, panel aside, the xreality processing and triluminous color sets the Sony a league apart from Samsung in the TV market. Also, again, a Sony 4K versus a Samsung curved 1080 for the same price should be a no-brainer. The curve has a sweet spot you need to watch it in (too curved at around 12% compared to LG and Sony which are closer to 5%) and it distorts the picture as you can see on the top and bottom lines on the tennis court which are curved.

Just my opinion maybe, but the Sony X850 has been completely worth the money, and is worth checking out next to the H8000 in a store. The comparison for me was a no brainer when I saw it in store.
 
I went ahead and bought the Samsung UN32EH5000 32 inch, renamed my PS4's input to PC since I've read that gives you the truest signal. I've also heard that turning down sharpness is usually best, but when I turn it down from the default 50 things start to look way too fuzzy. Is this because I renamed the input to PC already? Fairly new to changing around these settings.
 
I have an old 50inch Samsung 720p plasma and I've been thinking about upgrading. I was looking at a 55imch curved Samsung 1080p 4k led. I dont know much about tvs, is it worth the upgrade even though my tv is still working well other then a few red pixels that I notice one in a while? Are the curved tvs worth the price or any other suggestions? This was on sale for $1500

What TV are you talking about? 1080p or 4K? There's no curved 4K Sammy for $1500 iirc.

The new curved 4K sets are incredible but really pricey. I have a 4K flatscreen (the 8550), and it's amazing. Video games are drool worthy and upscale to 4K beautifully (input lag is NOT a problem, and I don't even use Game Mode). I would have bought the HU9000 curved, but it was too pricey (and I got an amazing deal on a 60" floor model).

Playing games on a TV this size with this kind of clarity seems almost unfair. Lords of the Fallen looked like pure crack. And Breaking Bad in 4K? Wow. . . .
 
Subscribed to this thread a while ago in anticipation of this. Finally upgrading my TV.

I have a 42" Panasonic 120hz LCD right now, had it for the past 4ish years. I'd like to get in the 55" range and above. I'm going to be playing PS3 and highish end PC games on it until I get a PS4 or XBone next year. Outside of that, also streaming video and blurays.

My wife doesn't give a shit at all about picture quality (her room had a CRT in it before we got married) so gonna be hard to justify anything above $800 I'm thinking. Her parents just got a new JVC 55" 120z LED for $650 at Costco. http://www.costco.com/JVC-55"-Class-1080p-120Hz-Smart-LED-HDTV-EM55FTR.product.100103365.html

I also saw Panasonic plasma 60" at PC Richards last week for like $600 but don't know the specs on it. Is it still worth going Plasma if I don't have big budget for the beast TV's?

Am I going to find anything better than that (or the Plasma) in the $800 range or would I have to go over $1000 to really see something that's better? I researched the shit out of my samsung before I got it and bit the bullet on 120hz at the time. I've been out of the loop with more recent TV's so I'm behind the curve here.

Thanks for any help you guys can provide. Real stoked to get something new next week.
 
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