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I wonder why RTINGS passed it off as a marketing feature then with no effect on picture quality? Weird. I've never seen a set with it in person so I was genuinely curious about it.

TRILUMINOS is a new backlight method.

Basically, their backlight subs out the white phosphors and color filters in favour of a new quantum dot tech they licensed out (the dots can basically filter blue light into red or green light). So in theory, you get purer RGB, and as a result, a wider color gamut. In practice, there doesn't seem to be a huge gap over existing backlights, and expanding the gamut can do some weird things to existing content. RTINGS isn't the only review to question whether it's worth buying.

That being said, (a) the tech does seem to remove a lot of error factors from backlighting, and (b) TRILUMINOS is only available on the higher end TVs, so one way or another there is going to be some kind of quality difference versus a random W700 or whatnot. You're getting a higher grade panel, a better backlight, and whatever extra tech that comes along for the ride (like the wedge speakers, better smart TV CPUs, etc.) So it's not smoke and mirrors.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but w900 is last years flagship 1080p? w950 is this year. w950 has that wedge design which I think is a waste and a camera, it also has an IPS panel which I'm a bit undecided on, it looks great in stores but not sure how it looks in a dark home.

Yep, both flagship 1080p models by year. W950 has extended dynamic range for 30% better contrast than W900. Wedge is the real deal, you don't see it from the front and it makes sound so much better and TV completely flat. Ask your local store to put on content you want, looks solid.
 
Haven't seen anyone talking about the 65" Vizio 4k P series on sale for $1500 on BB Black Friday ad. I got a 2013 M Series 65" and am trying to decide if it's worth swapping to the p series and putting the m in the bed room or not. I want it for the 4k obviously but Vizios low latency game mode is interesting me as well
 
I'll get a 4K TV when I can drive 4k gaming with one video card efficiently. Otherwise I'd rather have a really nice full array backlit 1080p TV. The Vizio has fairly bad motion and blur, but the price is pretty good. I'd still rather put that $1,500 to a nice 1080p TV but thats me :)
 
Best Buy has the 51' F8500 for $1000 now. They just dropped the price another 200 dollars today.

Just picked one up for my parents to replace their 6 year old Samsung HL50a650 DLP. Looks to be a fantastic set, really looking forward to tinkering with it this Thanksgiving.



Still not as pretty as my VT60 tho.
 
I got the LG 55EA9800 OLED a few months ago, and its the most amazing display I have ever seen. Most recently when the PS4 is turning off or going to rest mode it displays only some while lines and text with the pitch black background if you look at certain parts of the TV it looks turned off, pretty amazing contrast.
 
Plasma if you want the best picture quality and don't mind babying it/breaking it in for the first 200 hours. Other than that it's not even a contest when it comes to the most important things like how the handle fast motion, color accuracy, black levels, edge bleeding, and response time.
Just wanted to quote this from more than a year ago, as it's still true.

And it's a damn shame that Panasonic has discontinued their plasmas. For the money (and after "breaking" them in and with proper adjustments) they were easily the best HDTVs on the market, by a pretty wide fucking margin.
 
That being said, (a) the tech does seem to remove a lot of error factors from backlighting, and (b) TRILUMINOS is only available on the higher end TVs, so one way or another there is going to be some kind of quality difference versus a random W700 or whatnot. You're getting a higher grade panel, a better backlight, and whatever extra tech that comes along for the ride (like the wedge speakers, better smart TV CPUs, etc.) So it's not smoke and mirrors.
That's not all.

VA Panels have been historically dimmer than IPS, which is why it took so long for them to take off the ground. These things get to be shown on stores all the time and picked by people who are not very in the know, so they go for things they can pick up, like peak brightness being higher ("that television is dimmer! nahhhh" - usually) or colors being more saturated (ugh). On a store VA panels can suffer to a certain extent like plasmas did, is what I'm saying, while abundance of light shields the fact IPS blacks are... well, shit.

Sony triluminos VA panels are pretty much the brightest VA panels I've ever seen, and that's an advantage for stuff like strobing/impulse and... daylight viewing. (nobody is his right mind wants to see TV under those situations, but it can come in handy), and yet they're also some of the best dimmable LCD's out there, so it's very good.

As for the wider color gamut, for me it's the closest to Plasma/OLED on the LCD field, and that's a pretty big advantage over it's competition in my book, but I completely understand where you're coming from with it.
The cost in projectors isn't the projector itself, it's the cost of building the home theater room in your house to accommodate it and the bulb replacements. The unit itself is cheap but you'll be paying a lot more upfront to install it in a home and then you have constant consumables replacement during it's lifetime. Also if you move it's awfully inconvenient to rip everything out and take it with you. A TV you just pick it up and bring it to your new house.
I was thinking something short throw for sure.

The W1080ST has under 33ms of lag (I've heard 24ms, iirc), and it's DLP (so blur is not an issue and doesn't need motion compensation, unlike with projectors based on LCD tech), it's virtually better than most TV's out there for this task... and cheaper.

There's not really a special installation involved. This said, 55" means having the thing like 3 feet from the wall. And might I stress I'm not a projector fan at all, if I ever buy one it's because I can accomodate it and it somehow trumps the TV I would have otherwise or something.
 
Just wanted to quote this from more than a year ago, as it's still true.

And it's a damn shame that Panasonic has discontinued their plasmas. For the money (and after "breaking" them in and with proper adjustments) they were easily the best HDTVs on the market, by a pretty wide fucking margin.

Well this makes me feel good. I bought a 46" ST30 a couple of years ago and it's been great so far. I imagine I'll wait a couple of years before upgrading to a 4K set.
 
Any good 32 inch, 1080p, TVs (primarily for gaming) with 3 HDMI ports?

I'm interested in this one but I'd prefer 120hz. Best buy says it's 120 but Amazon says it's 60 so..
 
At this point... not really.

There are no premium 32" TV's in 2014. It's down to the perceived valued, nobody things a 32" is worth a lot at this point so they can't charge the sufficient ammount to warrant a 120 Hz VA panel, good backlight and quality assurance. Not to mention chips and other stuff needed to make a good TV tick these days.

If you can I'd say either go for a good (often 27") PC monitor or go higher, go for 42".
 
At this point... not really.

There are no premium 32" TV's in 2014. It's down to the perceived valued, nobody things a 32" is worth a lot at this point so they can't charge the sufficient ammount to warrant a 120 Hz VA panel, good backlight and quality assurance. Not to mention chips and other stuff needed to make a good TV tick these days.

If you can I'd say either go for a good (often 27") PC monitor or go higher, go for 42".

I see. Thanks for the help. I'll probably go for a monitor then.
 
Any good 32 inch, 1080p, TVs (primarily for gaming) with 3 HDMI ports?

I'm interested in this one but I'd prefer 120hz. Best buy says it's 120 but Amazon says it's 60 so..

I too am looking for a 32" tv as well to replace my current one that seems to have died on me. Looking at this one personally but the price is still a tad higher than I want: Samsung UN32H6350

There's a cheaper model that I may buy, though the drawback is that it's 60hz but it does have 3 HDMI ports.
 
I'm looking for a monitor and my price range is no more than 100 bucks flat. This means I'm getting these used. That said, I found a deal for the ASUS LED IPS ML239H monitor and was wondering if it was worth 70 bucks.

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Anyone own this or have any testimonies or recommendations? This is mainly for photo editing and personal PS3/Wii U gaming.
 
How are the black levels now on LG IPS tv's, i bought the 42LD450 a few years ago, sold it after tv shows and movies had the black areas onscreen were overly bright, grey/black. However the Daytime scenes in movies and video games were the best looking for any tv i've had since.
 
I need a new gaming TV.
X360/PS3 & PC will be connected to it.
No SD material or TV watching. No 3D necessary.
Just gaming and HD content via PC.

I have a great offer on SONY KDL-50W705BSAE2, 50" LED.
It's currently on sale here in Croatia for ~812 USD / ~651 EUR (was: 1040 USD / 834 EUR) + 5 year warranty.

Reviews seem great.

Seems like the perfect gaming TV (crazy low 14ms input lag).

Thoughts?
 
Any thoughts on the Samsung UN55H6350 that is on Amazon as a Black Friday pre-order? $800 and the reviews seem great. Input lag doesn't look too terrible with the PC/Gaming Mode options.

Anyone?
 
Has anyone heard anything about the Sony XBR-65X900B or had any personal experience with it?

TV and movies are my primary considerations with gaming only being a secondary consideration. Still, I'd like to keep the input lag fairly low, and two sites had this set's input lag listed at around 41.

I'm comparing it with this set, the XBR-65X850B, which just had its price lowered by $300. I'm mainly wondering if the speakers of the X900B justify the extra cash.
 
Best Buy has the 51' F8500 for $1000 now. They just dropped the price another 200 dollars today.

I bought this 3 days before, and got the price adjusted yesterday. Used 10% off from the PO to bring it down to $899. So far I'm really impressed by it, but image retention is scary sometimes.
 
Has anyone heard anything about the Sony XBR-65X900B or had any personal experience with it?

TV and movies are my primary considerations with gaming only being a secondary consideration. Still, I'd like to keep the input lag fairly low, and two sites had this set's input lag listed at around 41.

I'm comparing it with this set, the XBR-65X850B, which just had its price lowered by $300. I'm mainly wondering if the speakers of the X900B justify the extra cash.

I have the 65X900A and the big speakers are indeed amazing as TV speakers go, but if you've already got a dedicated sound system you probably won't use them much.
 
I have the 65X900A and the big speakers are indeed amazing as TV speakers go, but if you've already got a dedicated sound system you probably won't use them much.

I've never had a dedicated sound system before, so that makes me lean toward the 900B even more. I just hope the price gets dropped a bit around Black Friday.
 
I ended up buying the 48" TCL Roku TV last week, and I'm really happy with it. Great quality screen, the best smart TV features you can get, and the display lag is very low. For $400 I'm super impressed.
 
I've never had a dedicated sound system before, so that makes me lean toward the 900B even more. I just hope the price gets dropped a bit around Black Friday.

It's a pretty cool TV. Wish it had one more HDMI port or I could use it without needing a receiver. Hoping next years model has a lower input lag.
 
It's a pretty cool TV. Wish it had one more HDMI port or I could use it without needing a receiver. Hoping next years model has a lower input lag.

I wish the 4K TVs had a simple pixel doubling mode instead of full 4K upscale as an option for Game Mode to reduce input lag. 40 ms isn't bad for what these things are doing, I can't imagine that 4K upscaling isn't computationally intensive but honestly I can't give less of a fuck when I'm just trying to headshot motherfuckers.
 
GAF, I have a choice between two TVs that I'm looking at and I need a bit of advice. One being the Sony KDL50W800B for around 670. And the other is the Samsung H6203 for around 600.

50" is my preferable size, but I can do a bit bigger. Really need the TV mainly for gaming and HTPC usage. So preferably low input lag (i'm coming off of a Panny plasma which I think was pretty good in that regard).

Any suggestions?
 
This is going to be a complicated question, but any TV gurus here:

If I have a 65", 4k tv and want to play smash bros. on it:

1. Can I guarantee 60 fps? Is the Wii U HDMI cable 2.0? Will the upscaling affect the 60 fps?

2. Should I cry because the upscaled image is going to be ugly?
 
Phew ... Got lucky on the sizes ... I have less than 5cm everywhere around all the elements of my setup on everything ... And that's the minimum size I can get. Just bought the screen for 50€, got lucky with the dimensions too ...

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Welp. I did it. UN65HU8550 ordered. $2297

I can't use it until I get back from my deployment but I didnt want to take the chance of the price going up again, even though it'll be less than 2000 in a years time.
 
Phew ... Got lucky on the sizes ... I have less than 5cm everywhere around all the elements of my setup on everything ... And that's the minimum size I can get. Just bought the screen for 50€, got lucky with the dimensions too ...

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Nice set up, what's the make and model of the screen? I'm moving apartments and need some new stuff for my projector set up.
 
Strange,

Somehow i thought that the OLED 4k´s will be the future of pc monitors but after reading the manual of the LG Oled´s im surprised to see that they explicit DONT recommend using the TV on a PC.

There retention are these serious ?
 
Now I'm actually going back and forth on the Sony XBR-65X900B and the Samsung UN65HU8550.

The CNET review said the picture of the Sony is among the best they've ever tested, and I'm sure I'd appreciate the speakers since I've never had any dedicated sound system before, but I don't know if it's worth an extra $1,500 over the HU8550. You can preorder the HU8550 for Amazon's Black Friday event for $2,300, and the X900B is still sitting at $3,800, though I figure it'll drop at least a few hundred around Black Friday. I'm not an audiophile, the input lag as tested by the reviewer is the same, and the HU8550 actually got a slightly higher rating from the CNET editor than the X900B did, so I'm not sure which way to go with this.

Edit: Actually, it seems the Samsung unit's input lag is almost twice as high as Sony's according to several other sites, so I guess that made the decision easier.
 
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