GHG
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Thanks for these. Had gravity and interstellar on my list but not the rest.
Plasma, LCD, OLED, LED, best tv for next gen
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Thanks for these. Had gravity and interstellar on my list but not the rest.
Same here, even though I just bought 4 more to test out on my new tv -_-
Gonna start selling them off on ebay (or here if anybody's interested) for $5 a pop.
Also the IMAX scene in Transformers 2 is some godly kind of video quality.
the androgyne
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Moving to Japan next year and so I started checking out the TVs available over there.
Looking for something like 46-52", good for gaming, 4K since... well, one day it'll be useful right?
From what i can tell, there's no Samsung anything over there. Sony has this page http://www.sony.jp/bravia/game/index.html that lists a bunch of low-latency 1080p models that seem to be out of date and hard to come by now too. Their 4k ranges don't seem to have any info on latency. Sharp has about a billion models but don't seem to publish any latency info either.
Toshiba actually has a promo going with Capcom/SFV http://www.capcom.co.jp/sfv/151120_regza.html ... highlighting the latency specifically.. but with some numbers that seem to be too good to be true (0.05 frame/0.83msec) and/or measured completely differently to displaylag.com. I'm being nudged by the fact that the main reason i want the TV is for SFV! But finding info on these models is difficult since Toshiba aren't in the market elsewhere...
Then i think about how previously i've been gaming without any real issue on a 32" no-name brand given to me by my parents... and wonder if i should really be being so picky now!
Looking for something like 46-52", good for gaming, 4K since... well, one day it'll be useful right?
From what i can tell, there's no Samsung anything over there. Sony has this page http://www.sony.jp/bravia/game/index.html that lists a bunch of low-latency 1080p models that seem to be out of date and hard to come by now too. Their 4k ranges don't seem to have any info on latency. Sharp has about a billion models but don't seem to publish any latency info either.
Toshiba actually has a promo going with Capcom/SFV http://www.capcom.co.jp/sfv/151120_regza.html ... highlighting the latency specifically.. but with some numbers that seem to be too good to be true (0.05 frame/0.83msec) and/or measured completely differently to displaylag.com. I'm being nudged by the fact that the main reason i want the TV is for SFV! But finding info on these models is difficult since Toshiba aren't in the market elsewhere...
Then i think about how previously i've been gaming without any real issue on a 32" no-name brand given to me by my parents... and wonder if i should really be being so picky now!
DOT DASH DOT
Member
Same with my Mrs, thinks I'm nuts! Think it's a blessing in disguise I can't fit anything bigger than a 55" in the lounge, so I'm not tempted to really spend the big bucks on a top end 65"
The launch of UHD Blu-ray and new televisions that will make the most of the format. Improved color gamut to at least 100% DCI-P3 and improved light output for HDR/Dolby Vision. Hopefully more FALD LCD's with higher zone counts and an expanded line up of LG based OLED's without panel issues.
Jigolo
Member
Surprise OLEDs from other manufacturers would be amazing
Samsung and Panasonic are supposed to make some I think. Using LG panels.
Unless you're running a pc with one or more 980 tis. I'm playing Max Max at 4k currently.
-edit- not a brag, just saying there's definitely content to be found.
I was able to snag a 55 inch TCL Roku TV black Friday 2014 for about 450 dollars. Yes, it was only 1080P, but having it for a year, now and it's the best TV purchase I have done in quite some time and works well enough for my family room.
I'm going to invest in a 4k TV perhaps next year for my living room.
I'm going to invest in a 4k TV perhaps next year for my living room.
mordecaii83
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Found a good deal on the Sony X850C 65", any opinions on this screen?
Tatsumi Oga
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Oh man i just keep tinkering with the settings on my EC9300, for some reason i just can't stick with settings and i always have to try and see if it can look better.
Last week i was actually using the cinema picture mode with super resolution on medium and sharpness at 25, quite crazy indeed. But for several games i thought it looked great, very crisp. It also made ugly shit like aliasing much more noticeable, especially in Rise of the Tomb Raider and Gears UE. But also GTA V and other games.
I played some Gears UE yesterday with my bro in co-op and i didn't like it at all how the game looked, clearly something was wrong. These settings were definitely destroying the image quality for the game. So today i decided to take one of Gamersyde's Gears UE videos for comparison and started to use different settings. I've now settled for (hopefully sticking with it) PC mode + Game mode with sharpness at 25 and super resolution can't even be enabled, which is fine, that setting only introduces weird stuff anyway. It looks really good in games like Fallout 4, Gears, Witcher 3 and so on...and that very low input lag is fucking lovely. The thing is, it can always look a bit more crisp, but it's not without it's disadvantages.
I am a strange dude, i know.
Last week i was actually using the cinema picture mode with super resolution on medium and sharpness at 25, quite crazy indeed. But for several games i thought it looked great, very crisp. It also made ugly shit like aliasing much more noticeable, especially in Rise of the Tomb Raider and Gears UE. But also GTA V and other games.
I played some Gears UE yesterday with my bro in co-op and i didn't like it at all how the game looked, clearly something was wrong. These settings were definitely destroying the image quality for the game. So today i decided to take one of Gamersyde's Gears UE videos for comparison and started to use different settings. I've now settled for (hopefully sticking with it) PC mode + Game mode with sharpness at 25 and super resolution can't even be enabled, which is fine, that setting only introduces weird stuff anyway. It looks really good in games like Fallout 4, Gears, Witcher 3 and so on...and that very low input lag is fucking lovely. The thing is, it can always look a bit more crisp, but it's not without it's disadvantages.
I am a strange dude, i know.
TheCochese
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This is where my head is at. Coming from a 42, I wonder if I should go with a 55 for $200 less. The 42 is honestly big enough for the space, but the bezels are huge. A 55 might actually be only 6" more in overall diagonal length.
I had the M55 but swapped it for a M60 solely because the larger size worked better in my space. I probably could have even gone for the M65 but 60" is still great (especially coming from a 40"). So far I am very pleased with my purchase.
Bornstellar
Member
You have to realize that games have inherent problems with image quality, so you should never calibrate to a game.
Use test patterns and high quality Blueray. Then stick with it and accept that some games are going to not look as good because that's the way they were built.
exmachina64
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Yeah - plus, I'm surprised by how much "4k" content is available, and I'm watching, via Netflix and Amazon. I definitely think that now is the perfect time to jump in on a 4k tv. Next year will be a more perfect time, but right now is just fine.
Cheeseman Battitude
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Plus we need to buy ANOTHER player for UHD Blu-Ray. Can't keep up with needing to replace things.
Got the W705C.
Seems a great TV, but l'm living a personal nightmare: I wish there were unique settings for every PS4 game.
The ones that make UC4 Beta look stunning make Bloodborne look meh, the ones that make Flower even more beautiful make Dying Light a shit, and so on.
Any good calibration tip?
Seems a great TV, but l'm living a personal nightmare: I wish there were unique settings for every PS4 game.
The ones that make UC4 Beta look stunning make Bloodborne look meh, the ones that make Flower even more beautiful make Dying Light a shit, and so on.
Any good calibration tip?
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Very true man. And at the end of the day playability is more important. Or well, it differs. but for games like Fallout 4, Halo 5, Battlefront etc you need fast response. At first i really liked the Super Resolution setting, but then i started to notice weird artifacts in GTA V and other things. I'll probably stick with these settings. I can't keep go on changing these settings, it'll make me crazy, lol.
How good is the 9000? I might return my LG EG9100 and get a Samsung JS9000 instead. You say you have an excellent panel - which panel version do you have? It should say on the back of the TV (it says "Version: XXXX").
Anyone else have an opinion re: LG EG9100 vs Samsung JS9000?
MitzTapuzim
Banned
Hey guys,great thread,learned a lot.
Which brings me to this question- i'm about to
buy the samsung 40J6300 and I would really
like to know the honest opinion of people who
have this set in regards to picture quality,input lag etc... and one thing that I can't seem to find answer to is if this tv supports full RGB or not..
Which brings me to this question- i'm about to
buy the samsung 40J6300 and I would really
like to know the honest opinion of people who
have this set in regards to picture quality,input lag etc... and one thing that I can't seem to find answer to is if this tv supports full RGB or not..
DOT DASH DOT
Member
It's an excellent TV, even better than my old W900A, which is regarded as one of the best LCD TV's around. I have no flashlighting, virtually no DSE, very uniform blacks with no light bleed, the input lag is best in it's class for a 4K set. I chose this over an OLED and don't regret it. I've got version 01, purchased in November.
So I came across this new device called ambiscreen, that is a dynamic backlight that changes color with each scene on your tv. It currently a kick starter on indiegogo, and the advertise that it can plug into any device and not increase input lag. I hope they get funded, could be cool!
http://igg.me/at/ambiscreen/x/12935148
It kinda looks like the microsoft projector thingy that they present at e3? I figured I mention it.
http://igg.me/at/ambiscreen/x/12935148
It kinda looks like the microsoft projector thingy that they present at e3? I figured I mention it.
I don't mean to be a dick to you for having posted that - but that might be the dumbest most distracting thing I could imagine having on while watching TV. Just the video of the demo drove me insane. I can't imagine having that behind my 65 inch creating visual havoc in my living room. It's like LCD bloom but for your entire room!
Thanks! Really tempted to get one. The blacks and contrast on the OLED are awesome, but the banding, tint and input lag are super distracting.
mordecaii83
Member
Ended up getting a LG 65EG9600, picking it up later today. Can't wait!
Tarin02543
Member
comon man, i've seen 4k tv's being advertized for 600 euros already.
Once cheap UHD content will be out, it'll take off quickly. Only broadcasting will need to follow
MaxwellParrish
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May I ask you what kind of problem do you have with the LG? I was planning to buy a 930 (I think it's the same thing in UE that the 9300 in USA) and I like to get all the impressions that is possible,especially the negative ones
Edit : Sorry, I've seen you already listed your motivation a couple of post above
mordecaii83
Member
I'm replacing a 2013 Samsung 55" that had almost 70ms input lag in game mode, the LG measures between 45-50ms. So while it's not top of the line, it's better than almost any LCD TV from a couple years ago.
Also, I love the fact that I don't have to disable all the image enhancements on the LG to get that low input lag or turn on game mode, the only thing that needs to be off is the motion smoothing.
Joei
Member
So, after doing a little more browsing, it seems that HDR may be a feature really worth having. Anything to accurately and appropriately increase contrast is ok in my book. At least, that's how I'm thinking. Is getting a set that is HDR compatible really worth it at this point? After this next TV, I'm hoping not to have to buy another one for a while (current living room television will be going downstairs).
Yeah my G10 Panasonic Plasma from 2009 is probably much lower compared to the LG, so it will be difficult to get used to it.
This close to CES2016 I will sit it out a little bit.
At this point, with as little content there is, I wouldn't say it is worth it. But for the future, it is incredibly exciting. I love what it does to picture quality.
FYI, it's my understanding that LG OLED tv's have horrible response time. Like 55-60 milliseconds, even on game mode. I think OLED are still a few years out for gaming at affordable price points.
DOT DASH DOT
Member
I think Samsungs start around March.
Bornstellar
Member
The 9300 is reasonable for gaming (30-40). Don't know about the others.
Kleegamefan
K. LEE GAIDEN
Well somebody forgot to tell Sony and Fox, both of whom are releasing UHD Blue Ray movies spring 2016
http://variety.com/2015/digital/new...o-announce-ultra-hd-films-on-disc-1201637500/
Having viewed some HDR content personally, I would say it's a feature worth having for the future. I think the content will be coming sooner than later. Amazon already has some content out there for streaming and thinking is Netflix will follow suit. Also the overall opinion is that the UHD Blu Rays (depending on the studio) will also contain HDR graded movies.
I would not go with the 55" because it has a lower native refresh rate than the 60" (60Hz vs 120Hz). If you drop down to 55", then the picture quality hit may make the Samsung a better bang for your buck than the Vizio.
Joei
Member
Ok, the next step, I guess, is finding a decent priced (around 1k, maybe a little more) for a 55" with HDR. Sony has a set at $1300 (850C) which has HDR, but the 1100 priced model (810C) seems to have graded better, especially on viewing angles, but no HDR capabilities. I was initially leaning towards the 810C, but now I don't know.
Tested the M65 Vizio and Sony 65x850c this weekend and to my surprise, the Vizio won.
Superior blacks and contrast on the Vizio. Sony's TV seems more polished around the app offering and Android TV integration, but that can be remedied with a streaming box like Amazon Fire or Roku.
Conclusion - I'm sticking with the Vizio, and an extra $400 in my pocket.
Superior blacks and contrast on the Vizio. Sony's TV seems more polished around the app offering and Android TV integration, but that can be remedied with a streaming box like Amazon Fire or Roku.
Conclusion - I'm sticking with the Vizio, and an extra $400 in my pocket.
Jigolo
Member
If you really want Android TV there is always the Nexus player or the Nvidia Shield. Or to a lesser extent, a Chromecast
I'd get the EF9500 over that IMO. The older curved EG9600 OLED lacks HDMI 2.0A so no HDR from UHD Blu-ray. The more recently released EF9500 has HDMI 2.0A.
Just wanted to follow up. I've had my 65EF9500 for a couple of weeks now, and this TV. Is. Incredible.
I managed to get a set with no yellowing, and fairly minimal uniformity issues. The input lag could be better, but the picture on this set is absolutely mind-blowing. I downloaded a few HDR clips and viewed them from a flash drive, and holy shit what a picture. I am ready for UHD Blu-ray.
I managed to get a set with no yellowing, and fairly minimal uniformity issues. The input lag could be better, but the picture on this set is absolutely mind-blowing. I downloaded a few HDR clips and viewed them from a flash drive, and holy shit what a picture. I am ready for UHD Blu-ray.