Fahzgoolin
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https://www.twitch.tv/videos/165298761?t=02h57m29s
Just wanted to link Shroud doing a VSS only run just earlier, wins the game with 17 kills.
*cough, cough*
Incredible
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PLAYERUNKNOWNS BATTLEGROUNDS Early Access Thread: This Is Battle Royale
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Exactly. In TPP the camper would know I was there but I would know where they were too, giving me an advantage since I could have the jump on them and pre-fire as I turned the corner. In FPP you have to scramble to locate the camper before you can take aim.
They both have their advantages and disadvantages, but this is exactly why I had issues with people saying that FPP would be so superior. Outdoor combat FPP>TPP, indoor combat TPP>FPP.
Indoor combat is trash in third person as well, though. At least in first person you're on equal footing aside from the camper having a defensible position of course. If there's a longish hallway in the building you might as well shoot yourself in the head if you're trying to take out a camper because it's almost pointless.
I dont agree at all that FPP is hard indoors or something, FPP is superior everywhere, the end.
Its equal and the faster player wins, not the camper who have his corner covered with his spycam.
Sure you cant be ready for every single corner in FPP camp (10%) but you can be ready for only those 10% in TPP.
You also have the same chances in FPP when you see eachother, but in TPP the guy in corner sees the other much earlier and have time to set his aim on right spot.
I dont even know why am I talking about this anymore, im never gonna touch TPP again, I dont care if some people want to have the more easy and "relaxed" TPP, what I dont understand is how its so hard to understand the differences with TPP and FPP and see how TPP just isnt balanced, no way around it "but its more balanced here".
Its equal and the faster player wins, not the camper who have his corner covered with his spycam.
Sure you cant be ready for every single corner in FPP camp (10%) but you can be ready for only those 10% in TPP.
You also have the same chances in FPP when you see eachother, but in TPP the guy in corner sees the other much earlier and have time to set his aim on right spot.
I dont even know why am I talking about this anymore, im never gonna touch TPP again, I dont care if some people want to have the more easy and "relaxed" TPP, what I dont understand is how its so hard to understand the differences with TPP and FPP and see how TPP just isnt balanced, no way around it "but its more balanced here".
Agreed. I like FPP more but the idea that it reduces camping is a delusion, especially indoors. Frontal engagements are more fun, especially among two people who know they're both there, but besides that campers are super advantaged in FPP.
Why does everyone sound like a snob when they feel the need to talk about how much better FPP is? "I don't play eeeeeasy mode!!"
yo_soy_el_topo
Member
How can I see camo pants price? Got them on 2nd loot box and can sell on 8/11
Also got the purple rarity track suit top
Shit, camo cap is $80? Maybe I should sell mine, it's really cool but you only get to see it until you pick up a helmet :/
OnionPowder
Member
I don't think you can yet. I got mine the day of the loot boxes and can sell them tonight at 8PM EST. I'll post in here after I sell them. Currently the blue hotpants from the free crate are selling for about $300.
It might go more than that, hold off for a little bit and see if you can maximize your return.
That might be "equal" but god damn it is the least fun thing in this game. It just seems like I've experienced way more sitting and waiting players in FPP mode because they know it's so advantageous.
I was just going to say the same thing. I saw a clip from some streamer describing TPP as a little girl's pink bicycle with training wheels and FPP as a manly mountain bike. It's so lame and toxic.
WilsonX100
Member
so many top 10 games for me in solo FPP. came in 2nd my first FPP duo. will win today in both!
WilsonX100
Member
i really dont understand it. i really enjoy TPP and think its the way the game is meant to be played. FPP just provides a different type of game! both are fun in their own ways no need to think one is so much better than the other.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
There's different perspective queues for a reason. No need to argue which one is better or more fun. Pick the one you want and go with it. Everyone's happy.
yo_soy_el_topo
Member
Just seems hard to believe on the price of pants but I do have the mask as well and people are actually buying those too I guess..
I've only played a little bit of FP mode, but I think they both have their place. I mean yes, in TP mode you can look around corners, but so can everyone else so it's just a matter of having to take other things into account when playing. It's not as if one mode gives certain players an advantage over others.
Yeah I don't really understand why one is more "fair" than the other.
TheWorthyEdge
Member
Ouro! I didn't know you played PUBG. We gotta roll together sometime!
Felix Lighter
Member
Here is an example of where fairness is brought up. Yes everyone can 3P peek, everyone has the same camera. However, late game circle, everyone is behind a rock or tree surrounding an open field. Common scenario. The next circle happens to fall on some people in cover, the rest need to cover open ground and run towards the fortunate players that were given the circle. In 3rd person, all those players are waiting and WATCH your every move, they are preaimed and when they decide to shoot they are prefiring. There is no counter aside hoping they are truly terrible.
In first person, it's a tough break, it's never nice to have to run in the open, however, those players have to expose themselves to get information. They cannot preaim, they cannot wait for the perfect time when you can't react. They have to expose themselves to see you, take aim and fire. In that time I could react and deal with them. if they go back behind cover, I can change direction and go for a flank without them knowing. In first person, they can see everything.
That is the type of situation that becomes a serious problem in 3rd person. Circles decide the winner in a way that does not happen in first person.
In first person, it's a tough break, it's never nice to have to run in the open, however, those players have to expose themselves to get information. They cannot preaim, they cannot wait for the perfect time when you can't react. They have to expose themselves to see you, take aim and fire. In that time I could react and deal with them. if they go back behind cover, I can change direction and go for a flank without them knowing. In first person, they can see everything.
That is the type of situation that becomes a serious problem in 3rd person. Circles decide the winner in a way that does not happen in first person.
therealminime
Member
It's supported by default.
I like both modes. I play both modes. I don't talk down to either playerbase calling them either "kiddy" or "toxic" etc. I understand the merits of both modes.
I really don't udnerstand why people can't be like me or at least play their prefered mode without being a shitbag about it.
I really don't udnerstand why people can't be like me or at least play their prefered mode without being a shitbag about it.
Milksheikhs
Member
anyone down to play some pubg with me?
I'm tired of arguing about it so I'm not going to commit to this conversation, but I will just say:
Yes, there are plenty of situations in which TPP makes it frustrating because it benefits the people with cover who don't have to move much more than anyone else.
Yes, frontal engagements are much more fun and "fairer" in FPP.
But there are plenty of other situations throughout the game where TPP can save you from a camper or benefit you in other ways, such as being able to react to flanks much faster.
I don't care what modes you guys play, or what you enjoy, or even your reasons for enjoying them. Play, have fun, post and talk about your experiences, but if you feel better about yourself because you play FPP and you think TPP is easy mode and people who play TPP are casuals or scrubs or babies or whatever you wanna call them, just know that you're not better than anyone else.
I hate streamers for normalizing this attitude where the only way to play this game is aggression or you're a pussy. You can win this game with 1 kill, or even without fighting. Being sneaky and camping are valid strategies. Both of those strategies work in FPP or TPP.
Yes, there are plenty of situations in which TPP makes it frustrating because it benefits the people with cover who don't have to move much more than anyone else.
Yes, frontal engagements are much more fun and "fairer" in FPP.
But there are plenty of other situations throughout the game where TPP can save you from a camper or benefit you in other ways, such as being able to react to flanks much faster.
I don't care what modes you guys play, or what you enjoy, or even your reasons for enjoying them. Play, have fun, post and talk about your experiences, but if you feel better about yourself because you play FPP and you think TPP is easy mode and people who play TPP are casuals or scrubs or babies or whatever you wanna call them, just know that you're not better than anyone else.
I hate streamers for normalizing this attitude where the only way to play this game is aggression or you're a pussy. You can win this game with 1 kill, or even without fighting. Being sneaky and camping are valid strategies. Both of those strategies work in FPP or TPP.
Dunno if I have you on Steam, but shoot me a request. Same name as here.
That has just made my x34a purchase that much sweeter!
How is calling that streamer toxic "talking down to a playerbase"? I'm literally calling them out for talking down to a playerbase. I love both game modes and I'm saying that they both have their advantages.
I mean, yes, that can be an issue, but there are quite a few things that occur during the game that make it less "fair" for other players. Dropping in on a building in an area that usually has good gear? Enjoy your 12 pistols and a beanie. Picked a spot early on and the circle is on the other side of the map? Better hope no one stole all of the nearby cars.
It may not happen every game to you, but it happens to someone and you just gotta hope things don't affect you at any given time.
OnionPowder
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Brother!
It's amazing how this is not common sense. Play however you prefer. and have the most fun with.
I frankly prefer FPP and I can't wait for the Squad FPP (because I only play this with friends).
Hot damn indeed! Phew. Maybe you can carry me and Stevo to some chicken next time we play.
Felix Lighter
Member
The randomness of the circle in the situation I presented already gives some players an advantage, just like looting the right houses gives you an advantage. The argument about fairness comes down to which perspective mitigates those disadvantages the most and allows players to overcome them with player skill. I would argue FPP. The simple need to expose yourself for information is why. That is why I prefer it and where the "fairness" argument comes in. It isn't always the case where the both players have the luxury to utilize their 3rd person camera to peek and in those cases there is very little you can do to counter it.
I'm not arguing that suddenly everyone gets a fair shake in every game. There is a mountain of randomness that can screw you over but at least this one aspect mitigates the issues in player vs player engagements.
Fair enough. I think there are some strategies that can be employed to mitigate some aspects of it, but I get what you're saying.
How the hell did some people already sell those pants on the 4th, for example?
Oh man, I had a game a while back where a house didn't load. I was in a vehicle and I ran drove through it, but then it spawned while I was in the middle of a wall. The car kept taking continuous damage and I couldn't get out. Exploded and died :/
Had a nice duo finish in FPP mode: Crisp, Clean Boys (excuse the swedish...)
FPP really makes these walled areas a lot more fun to engage in.
FPP really makes these walled areas a lot more fun to engage in.
OnionPowder
Member
Getting serious network lag today.
Just had a connection timed out.
Just had a connection timed out.
Shifty Capone1
Member
Have they said when they may be releasing Squad FPP? Like a lot of others I cannot wait for it!
Which pants? A lot of them have different color variations on Survivor/Wanderer.
ebullientprism
Member
Quick question. How does the Matchmaking work in this? If you select Duo will you be put into a server full of other duos or is it just everyone in the same server (squad, solo, duo)?
paperspace
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