PlayStation’s policy of not releasing its first-party games on PlayStation Plus on the day of the release will continue, according to a company exec
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Crayon
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OMG!
I know you are talking about the trash ones, but well before that, I got one of the best buys in gaming every: It was a 6-pack of bullfrog games, all on their own cd. It was really 5, because I believe one was just a demo of the recently released magic carpet 2.
This thing was like 20 or 30 bucks and was AMAZING. Bullfrog for life, and Molyneux is a hero. I had never played stuff like that. Pupulous was available on snes, but I had never tried it. The set had populous 2, anyhow. I can't find any pic of it. I believe we picked it up at costco.
lastmessiah
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Death Stranding is great but Kojima Productions is not owned by Sony. You already knew that though.
nial
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We all know that, weird gotcha. Your point is...?
GHG
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The option for rational consumers is to wait for a sale instead of having to deal with a company that artificially pumps their games prices to $80 and then rarely puts them on sale in the hope that people will evangelise some poxy subscription service.
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In the last year COD, Avowed, Indy, Doom, expedition 33, stalker 2 and oblivion released, those are AA slop?
You must be a high brow premium gamer.
ChorizoPicozo
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The_Observer
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Not as much as Microsoft but they are pretty close nowadays
SweetTooth
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Its the smart thing to do. Gaming industry business model involve huge expensive multi years project per game, biggest mistake is training your target audience not to invest in games.
we have a clear study case on a rival platform. People stopped buying games immediately.
we have a clear study case on a rival platform. People stopped buying games immediately.
SkylineRKR
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Ofcourse
I figure you can't bank entirely on something as fluctuating as subs. MS went into this death trap because they had to do something with XB1, but I'm sure they'd want to abandon this strategy today if they had a way to do it without repercussions.
I figure you can't bank entirely on something as fluctuating as subs. MS went into this death trap because they had to do something with XB1, but I'm sure they'd want to abandon this strategy today if they had a way to do it without repercussions.
lastmessiah
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It's not a first party title.
I can believe being such a fanboy to say "Great I want to keep filling these greedy companies by buying 70/80 dollar games! Soon you won't even get a disc with that price.. But Sony is making piles of cash! Winning!
We already know if Sony changes the policy the Ponies will say its the greatest thing since sliced bread.
We already know if Sony changes the policy the Ponies will say its the greatest thing since sliced bread.
User name checks out.
GHG
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There's always some new excuse.
It's like you forget the fact that this company and it's fanbase didn't go around saying they wouldn't increase game prices in order to drive people towards their subscription service when it's exactly what regulators and everyone else said they would do when they were battling to finalise their major acquisitions.
We were told that Microsoft could afford to not have to raise prices and we're in a better position than any of their competitors when it comes to price stability. What happened to that?
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Skifi28
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People seems to care too much whether exclusives are first party, second party or a wedding party. Just enjoy the games.
MrRibeye
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Zacfoldor
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I'm sure he'll get back to you as soon as he refunds this month's gamepass.
Magic Carpet
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It's weird how the games on PS+ and the games free on Epic store have a tendency to be the same. It's like developers have a pool of approved titles that go to these services as Loss Leaders or something.
lastmessiah
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Read the title of this thread.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
LOL!!!! They aren't even in the same ball park. Sony did some brain dead stuff when it comes to Live Service games. But besides that, they are making most of the right moves.
mckmas8808
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ShadyAcshuns
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Honestly that's about the only thing that would persuade me to sub.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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Of course. They aren't stupid like the folks at Microsoft.
They still want to sell their consoles and also don't want to devalue their games. MS did day and date on PC and GamePass and ended up devaluing their consoles and training their customers not to buy games. Now their brand is suffering for it and they are forced to release their games on PlayStation and Switch 2 to make money.
They still want to sell their consoles and also don't want to devalue their games. MS did day and date on PC and GamePass and ended up devaluing their consoles and training their customers not to buy games. Now their brand is suffering for it and they are forced to release their games on PlayStation and Switch 2 to make money.
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Sooner
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I'm not sure your confusion. It's an equally obvious statement as the one in the OP.
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Thick Thighs Save Lives
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??? I just shared a news article with a quote from a recent interview where a SIE exec talks about their current PS+ strategy, so what exactly is the issue here?
If you don't like these types of threads there's an ignore button. Use it and stop thread whining.
Unknown Soldier
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Calm down bro you're going to make the usual people try and bring up Concord again for the 273,474,825th time in a desperate attempt to deflect
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Klayzer
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Lol. The rally card for the greenhouse gang.
drganon
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Simmer down, who's ever alt you are.
Imagine saying "They have brainwashed their base by not making them spend 70/80 on a game.
Holy hell, I think it's the other side who might be brainwashed. Yes Sony take my money for a 6th Uncharted remake! Oh and yes I will take it with no booklet, the disc basically being a key, well that's if i bought your disc drive!
Lol
Jigsaah
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Is Death Stranding first party though?
Sooner
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Do you plan on making more? Will you let me know if they plan to drop the price of new first-party AAA games back to $39.99 like on the PS1?
Sgt. Pinback
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I don't want Sony, or Nintendo, to hand over their first party IP to any streaming or subscription service. We all saw what Microsoft did to itself by thinking they could get around the 'make the best games, sell your console' equation that governs the reality of the industry.
Training your customers to expect to pay $0 for your product destroyed the music industry, it's on the way to destroying the film and television industries, and it destroyed Xbox. No thanks. I'm happy to even pay Sony and Nintendo's bullshit hiked prices as long as it means that games still actually mean something, and have value.
Training your customers to expect to pay $0 for your product destroyed the music industry, it's on the way to destroying the film and television industries, and it destroyed Xbox. No thanks. I'm happy to even pay Sony and Nintendo's bullshit hiked prices as long as it means that games still actually mean something, and have value.
It depends what you mean. If it's console units Switch is kind of doing its own thing on a different timeline from the other consoles, in terms of revenue PS are leaders, in terms profit margin they're probably not and Nintendo leads.
FIREKNIGHT2029
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Yea because spending $70/80 is the only way to buy games and sales don't exist lol.
Buying games doesn't mean you have to buy them on day one. In fact, most gamers buy only a handful of games on day one throughout the year, the rest are picked up on sales or heavy discounts. Problem with Xbox is that nobody buys games, whether in a sale or not because they expect everything on a subscription service. It's why the platform is dead/dying now as retail on Xbox is non-existent and MS now has to rely on rival platforms like PS5 to sell their first party games.
Subscription services aren't a bad thing. Sony is thriving with PS Plus as this article shows but they have a very successful retail business model especially with their first party games and that's because they haven't devalued their games by throwing them day one on a subscription service.
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FoxMcChief
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What first party games?
yurinka
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The factual data says Sony is the clear the market leader, this FY they made:
Revenue
- SIE: $27.57B
- Nintendo: $8.03B
- Sony: $2.86B
- Nintendo: $1.95B
- Sony: 124M in March, 129M in Dec. MONTHLY active users
- Nintendo: 128M ANNUAL active users
- Sony: 18.5M
- Nintendo: 10.8M
- Sony: 303.3M
- Nintendo: 155.41M
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yurinka
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To rent them for over $200/year isn't a more affordable option
EDMIX
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Rightfully so.
I feel PS Plus is an extra, a thing to provide gamers with games that have released prior, not a system that cannibalizes sales for developers.
So Sony is able to have the best of all worlds....success on PS Plus without having to sacrifice full priced games for developers (as we still fucking need gamers buying games) , able to put out PS5 exclusives (keeping the value of the platform while making sure PS5 gamers are still the main priority and not treated like something second class) and able to release on PC after the fact providing ample time to make sure those PC ports are of great quality (outside of that Last Of Us remake port, not sure if any of that was patched)
So I think the setup they have is fine.
I feel PS Plus is an extra, a thing to provide gamers with games that have released prior, not a system that cannibalizes sales for developers.
So Sony is able to have the best of all worlds....success on PS Plus without having to sacrifice full priced games for developers (as we still fucking need gamers buying games) , able to put out PS5 exclusives (keeping the value of the platform while making sure PS5 gamers are still the main priority and not treated like something second class) and able to release on PC after the fact providing ample time to make sure those PC ports are of great quality (outside of that Last Of Us remake port, not sure if any of that was patched)
So I think the setup they have is fine.
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