PlayStation 4 lifetime sales pass 22.3m worldwide

Amentallica said:
Great, it sold something, which is significant to you, but in the grand scheme of things it is selling like shit. And your examples of Gran Turismo, Halo and Gears are faulted because you won't be able to measure whether those people bought those respective consoles for the exclusives, the multiplatform games, or both. Once again you're comparing a console with only its exclusives (Wii U) versus consoles which have not only their exclusives but multiplatform games as well. Why not also make the argument that multiplatform games sell extraordinarily well given the fact that the Wii U is selling terribly? I'm sure we can stretch that narrative as well.
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Of course it sold like shit. The point is that it sold due to 1st party not 3rd party to get there. Apparently facts is stretching the narrative to you. Do you want me to start making shit up instead, maybe that will appease you more?

My examples are not faulted since hardware sales skyrocket when games from those franchises release. People buy Xbox because of Halo/Gears, this is an undisputed fact. Not everyone, but a lot of people. I guess we could look at other things because facts don't matter to you, you know since that stretches the truth.
 
Seems like both major next gen consoles are still selling well, but the pace is beginning to slow. Not selling at the same clip they were.
 
I think people are really overestimating how much exclusives do for sales. The Vita and Wii U both have exclusives falling out of their asses, and they continue to flounder. PS4 and X1 are both destroying their predecessors in sales over the same time period despite the apparent lack of exclusives. The only system that's doing well right now and has a lot of exclusives is the 3DS, but that's pretty much the norm for Nintendo handhelds.

Good games really don't have to be exclusive for consoles to sell well.
 
I'm expecting the price cut this year and a $299 PS4 will sell boatloads this Christmas. It also could mean great things for Project Morpheus if there are nearly 40 million PS4's out there when it drops.
 
outunderthestars said:
I just want PSN support for PS1 games on PS4. :(
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Yeah that would be really nice. I have a Vita for that at the moment and I suspect PS Now is as close as we will get for backwards compatibility.

sandkiller said:
Slightly off-topic... Anyone thinks there will be a new ps4 revision around e3? Maybe a better hard drive at least?
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Next year is my bet. New slim console with maybe a 1Tb hard drive and official price cut to boot.

outunderthestars said:
I own one and still feel underwhelmed by the library at this point. The only non-indie game I have played in months is Borderlands Collection, and that is a PS3 port. Hell, weeks will go by where I don't even turn it on. :(

I am hoping E3 shows me something awesome.
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It's too bad your PS4 has been off lately.

But even if new amazing stuff shows up at E3 it wont be released any time soon so expect a couple more inches of dust on top of your PS4 if nothing for this year appeals to you.
 
jedmaxwell said:
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looool
 
LegendofDragoonLives said:
Do you want to dance around words with bullshit some more? If it wasn't for their exclusives, they would have sold possibly half the consoles they have sold so far, making the earlier statement wrong. You can try to twist words and completely fail at it, but it doesn't change this fact.

Plenty people choose PS or X1 for Uncharted (or NG in general now), Gran Turismo, Halo, Gears and overall exclusive package. I know because that's why it was an easy choice for me to pick one console over the other.
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If it wasn't for their exclusives, they probably wouldn't have sold any consoles because they wouldn't have any games at all. You're comparing a console with NO third party support to one with the most third party support. That's why it has sold shitty. You're trying to put a positive spin on that disaster and it isn't working. Swap the exclusives for full third party support and I can guarantee you that they'd be in a far better place than they are now. That gets too deep into hypothetical scenarios, though, so just look at the consoles that DO have third party support. See how much better they're doing despite everyone here lamenting the lack of exclusives? Proof.
 
TheWorthyEdge said:
And then end of summer hits, and your wallet gets destroyed. And then people still say there are no games.
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You're wrong. So much is coming out this summer, you don't have to wait for it to end for your wallet to be destroyed. I mean once summer starts in June, I'm getting Batman, Onechanbara and Lego Jurassic World. That's just the first 9 days of summer, and doesn't count the other games releasing which I'm not buying.
 
googleplex said:
I'm expecting the price cut this year and a $299 PS4 will sell boatloads this Christmas. It also could mean great things for Project Morpheus if there are nearly 40 million PS4's out there when it drops.
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Why would they. It the price $100 when it is selling so well?

I expect another round of bundles with games and PS+ this Holday, but no official price cut
 
Lemondish said:
If it wasn't for their exclusives, they probably wouldn't have sold any consoles because they wouldn't have any games at all. You're comparing a console with NO third party support to one with the most third party support. That's why it has sold shitty. You're trying to put a positive spin on that disaster and it isn't working. Swap the exclusives for full third party support and I can guarantee you that they'd be in a far better place than they are now. That gets too deep into hypothetical scenarios, though, so just look at the consoles that DO have third party support. See how much better they're doing despite everyone here lamenting the lack of exclusives? Proof.
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Except that they had 3rd party support when they released. You remember EA how they acted like they were bffs during the time it came out? Now they don't want to be associated with Nintendo. They have almost no third party support now, but they had it initially. They just didn't sell. The less they sold, the less 3rd party games they sold.

And no they wouldn't do better with 3rd party now instead of exclusives. Why the fuck would slightly better PS3/360 spec machine sell better than it is now without its exclusives?
 
Kagari said:
Why do these threads devolve so quickly? The "no games" stuff really needs to stop.
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It will only stop when the PS4 has amassed a significant library of critically acclaimed exclusive retail games. The same thing happened with the PS3. The only difference being the PS3 actually had quite a few good games out in its first couple of years but was then competing against the 360 which had all these 90+ games coming out, Gears, Mass Effect, Bioshock etc. The XBone has a pretty weak library.
 
Vanillalite said:
Seems like both major next gen consoles are still selling well, but the pace is beginning to slow. Not selling at the same clip they were.
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I think both consoles losing the "new console hype" they had last year was pretty much inevitable for the early months of this year. Things should be better next year though. Really can't see the 360/PS3 staying relevant in 2016... sales for both are really low.
 
outunderthestars said:
Why would they. It the price $100 when it is selling so well?

I expect another round of bundles with games and PS+ this Holday, but no official price cut
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Because they care about the ARPPU and that benefits you even more if you have driven adoption.

They want to even more firmly assert it to be the most popular platform to buy expensive games. ;-)
 
Outrun said:
Whether some perceive the PS4 to have games (indie, AAA, 3rd Party, 1st party... add your modifier) is immaterial.

The cold hard numbers are irrefutable.

22.3M units sold is bloody impressive.
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Yep, number of games released, software sales, tie ratio and average metacritic score prove that the 'PS4 haz no gamez' doesn't make any sense, and whoever says that didn't check the numbers, is lying or even worse: is trolling.

Maybe this people should say instead 'personally I don't like the games of the PS4 library, I prefer another ones', or 'I don't like this brand'.
 
Misterinenja said:
I admit it's not a valid barometer but I do think exclusives matter.

What I meant by the ball comment is that it really is Sony's job to give us reasons to continue being excited over their system. Just because of couple of deviants being able to enjoy The Order doesn't mean that the state of big budget exclusives is completely subjective.

Even if I had put prettier dressing on that comment it wouldn't have gone over well in a thread where people are celebrating over system sales so it is my L to bear.
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I think The Order is shit, but calling the people who enjoyed the game "deviants" is rather childish and stupid.
 
outunderthestars said:
Why would they. It the price $100 when it is selling so well?

I expect another round of bundles with games and PS+ this Holday, but no official price cut
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Why did they cut the PS2's price by $100 at this point in it's life even though it was kicking the crap out of the Xbox and Gamecube?

They should be looking to boost momentum instead of waiting for it to slow down.

The more consoles they have out there the more PS+, games, accessories etc. they can sell.

The PS4 also has to be priced more reasonably in anticipation of Morpheus.
 
Kenshin001 said:
It will only stop when the PS4 has amassed a significant library of critically acclaimed exclusive retail games. The same thing happened with the PS3. The only difference being the PS3 actually had quite a few good games out in its first couple of years but was then competing against the 360 which had all these 90+ games coming out, Gears, Mass Effect, Bioshock etc. The XBone has a pretty weak library.
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*insert * incoming goalpost moving joke * here*

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BadWolf said:
Why did they cut the PS2's price by $100 at this point in it's life even though it was kicking the crap out of the Xbox and Gamecube?

The more consoles they have out there the more PS+, games, accessories etc. they can sell.

The PS4 also has to be priced more reasonably in anticipation of Morpheus.
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Sony was in a much, much better financial position at that time. I just don't see them leaving half a billion or so in money on the table this holiday. Next Spring, possibly but not before then.
 
outunderthestars said:
Sony was in a much, much better financial position at that time. I just don't see them leaving half a billion or so in money on the table this holiday. Next Spring, possibly but not before then.
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They'll cut it. The additional games sold and the PlayStation plus subscriptions will more that make up for it.
 
outunderthestars said:
I own one and still feel underwhelmed by the library at this point. The only non-indie game I have played in months is Borderlands Collection, and that is a PS3 port. Hell, weeks will go by where I don't even turn it on. :(

I am hoping E3 shows me something awesome.
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I can't even begin to fathom how someone could feel that way
 
Ricky_R said:
I didn't say you said that the PS4 had a small library.



You dismissed the amount of games the PS4 has because of indies, which is why I asked how does that (indies) go against how many games the PS4 has available since Sony worked hard to get them on board.

What does the ease of development has to do with it when the Xbone pales in comparison? And like I said... There are no mid tier games anymore, so there's really not much difference.
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It was not toward ps4 but the generation overall.
PS4 is first and xone second / generations...
Can you see the picture here ?
But i can understand you are more happy with raw number being mercifull toward sony hard work (you really bring this as an argument ?) claiming false information (no mid tier game ? highly hyperbolized and forgetting also there is a japan for ps4 outside your country and thoses games are counted)
 
sobaka770 said:
This is troll post, right? Because after the recent release of Bloodborne, probably the most critically acclaimed exclusive on next-gen platforms which is not a remaster, there's left no reason for such an ignorant comment.
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Super Mario 3D World is the most critically acclaimed exclusive of next gen (92.56% gameranking), followed by SSB Wii U (92.31%). Bloodorne is at 91.25%, which is 4th highest (behind Bayonetta 2)

Also, I don't believe that Bloodborne by itself is good enough to make the fact that "PS4 is great" the only valid opinion, like you claim. That's like saying that, because the PS3 has Dark Souls, it is inarguably a great console, and everyone who disagrees is ignorant. For many who don't like games like Bloodborne, and are not satisfied by the yearly instalments of COD/FIFA/AC/2K, there is still very little that the PS4 has to offer.
 
LegendofDragoonLives said:
Except that they had 3rd party support when they released. You remember EA how they acted like they were bffs during the time it came out? Now they don't want to be associated with Nintendo. They have almost no third party support now, but they had it initially. They just didn't sell. The less they sold, the less 3rd party games they sold.

And no they wouldn't do better with 3rd party now instead of exclusives. Why the fuck would slightly better PS3/360 spec machine sell better than it is now without its exclusives?
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Cheaper machine that plays all the multiplats? That would sell better than the small amounts they sell now.

I don't think you realize just how dire the situation is over there. Dreamcast STILL has more success despite not being out as long. Without third party support but with exclusives they're clearly failing. Swap that, and well, then it would be a cheaper way to get CoD. That alone would sell more systems than they currently do. It actually isn't that hard to sell more than they currently do.
 
Crimson_Gold said:
They'll cut it. The additional games sold and the PlayStation plus subscriptions will more that make up for it.
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I'd be really happy to be wrong, as less expensive consoles allow more people to own them. :)


BruceLeeRoy said:
I can't even begin to fathom how someone could feel that way
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Not trying to thread derail or shit on the PS4 (as I own A PS4, Vita, and PSTV) but there just hasn't been much that I want to play. Hopefully that will change soon with Rime, No Man's Sky, Deus Ex, The Witness, and Hopefully Fallout 4. :)


Now if they just give me a new Ape Escape game.......
 
Misterinenja said:
The console is still a joke when it comes to the game library. Two years in.

The way things are going can't see this success lasting long... The ball is in Sony's hands now.
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I still don't understand these posts, but I guess this is the narrative people are running with?

Congrats to Sony. That's a lot of PS4's. Geez. The question is...how long until they hit 25?
 
BruceLeeRoy said:
I can't even begin to fathom how someone could feel that way
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.

And I was shocked yesterday to see that a new game (Broken Age) was not only cheaper on ps4 than the one on Steam, but included the vita version for free. Saving money by not buying on steam, wtf valve? Sony is competitive.
 
LegendofDragoonLives said:
Of course it sold like shit. The point is that it sold due to 1st party not 3rd party to get there. Apparently facts is stretching the narrative to you. Do you want me to start making shit up instead, maybe that will appease you more?

My examples are not faulted since hardware sales skyrocket when games from those franchises release. People buy Xbox because of Halo/Gears, this is an undisputed fact. Not everyone, but a lot of people. I guess we could look at other things because facts don't matter to you, you know since that stretches the truth.
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Everything sells. Anything is a potential system seller. To what degree is the difference that each title carries with it. And what the hell are you talking about with "facts don't matter to you"? I didn't say anything false. You're the one using one of the worst selling consoles in history as an example of the selling-prowess of exclusives. That's fucking stupid.
 
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