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Has Xbox’s Call of Duty Game Pass gamble paid off?
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Microsoft just simply made several mistakes over the years that proved too detrimental.
I've long maintained the 2013 XB1 reveal caused severe, lasting damage to their brand.
But Sony bereft of any competition is not a good thing, imo.
Is this worldwide or US only. Difference seems small compared to units sold.
PS was selling more units than Xbox, so Xbox shifted the conversation from "console sales" to "active players."
Now PS has beaten Xbox in that metric as well lol.
I wonder if Xbox will change the metric once again.
I see three main mistakes Microsoft made:Microsoft just simply made several mistakes over the years that proved too detrimental.
I've long maintained the 2013 XB1 reveal caused severe, lasting damage to their brand.
But Sony bereft of any competition is not a good thing, imo.
No Phil said people were too attached to their digital libraries to change consoleThe transfer of users between platforms is real
If that's just US, it's quite telling.It's US. Sony has done a big job of reversing the trends in the US where Microsoft actually had an advantage from the 360 days.
Next metric will be Customer Satisfaction and judging by their fan feedback it will bePS was selling more units than Xbox, so Xbox shifted the conversation from "console sales" to "active players."
Now PS has beaten Xbox in that metric as well lol.
I wonder if Xbox will change the metric once again.
No need. They will just add them once the players sign in to play Microsoft published games.PS was selling more units than Xbox, so Xbox shifted the conversation from "console sales" to "active players."
Now PS has beaten Xbox in that metric as well lol.
I wonder if Xbox will change the metric once again.
I see three main mistakes Microsoft made:
- Putting Phil in charge
- Not firing him
- Promoting him head of everything gaming related
I mean keeping someone in a coma alive so he can be a donor isn't really doing the guy any favourIf it weren't for Phil they would have shut down Xbox years ago.
The options were this or a shutdown. You can see that Phil has also thought about shutting it down. And now that GP has failed that day is drawing near.
There will be no traditional console replacement for the XSX and if there is any hardware at all the premium on it will be gigantic.
When those libraries are just on a rental service, makes the switch much easier.No Phil said people were too attached to their digital libraries to change console
That's the whole irony of itWhen those libraries are just on a rental service, makes the switch much easier.
I'm looking forward to hearing how many terabytes gamers downloaded from gamepass.PS was selling more units than Xbox, so Xbox shifted the conversation from "console sales" to "active players."
Now PS has beaten Xbox in that metric as well lol.
I wonder if Xbox will change the metric once again.
There's Nintendo and PC already.We need a new competitor , leaving Sony alone to do whatever they want is not healthy for the consumer
Percentages work exactly the opposite way, it's less impressive if the userbase is smallerA 12% increase year over year and even more impressive considering how much smaller the Xbox console install base is compared to Playstation.
To, "number of people walking by Xbox aisle compared to PS or Nintendo." XDPS was selling more units than Xbox, so Xbox shifted the conversation from "console sales" to "active players."
Now PS has beaten Xbox in that metric as well lol.
I wonder if Xbox will change the metric once again.
It's happening with smaller games and on a smaller scale too. After The Show left gp and last gen, xbone players had a choice to make and I'd bet most picked ps5. They got hooked into packs and had to upgrade. A hundred thousand here and there adds up.The transfer of users between platforms is real, this year and especially next year with GTAVI will make this difference much greater in favor of PS5.
The hardware sales gap is more than 2:1. This is the bleed conversion from one ecosystem to another.What's surprising is that it's only a +10m gap... it's a far superior product and ecosystem in many ways.
I'm surprised the gap isn't much larger.
Yes, the next metric is people who play their games no matter where, like any other 3rd party.PS was selling more units than Xbox, so Xbox shifted the conversation from "console sales" to "active players."
Now PS has beaten Xbox in that metric as well lol.
I wonder if Xbox will change the metric once again.
Those are not direct competitions , nintendo is aimed for different audience and PC is expensive not anyone can effort a gaming PCThere's Nintendo and PC already.
More than enough competition.
That's one way to spin it. A bunch of people inadvertently paying for the franchise and clicking download vs actual sales for a franchise and still not gaining a majority in your strongest region. 3% over 2022 when it wasn't on gamepass is not that great and it was declining on xbox until the gamepass addition. As the playerbase on PS increases further it would become difficult to show a jump since they no longer have gamepass users clicking it to rely on for any significant YoY increases.Did anyone here even bother to read the article? Based on the comments here I'm guessing not. The whole discussion was about Game Pass's influence and they talk about how, even with a much lower active player base, last November 47% of the Call of Duty player base was on Xbox consoles. A 12% increase year over year and even more impressive considering how much smaller the Xbox console install base is compared to Playstation. I feel like neogaf is starting to feel like Reddit, cherry picking random statements from a podcast without any context.
Yeah, that means there's healthy competition.Those are not direct competitions , nintendo is aimed for different audience and PC is expensive not anyone can effort a gaming PC
This stupid shit again?Microsoft just simply made several mistakes over the years that proved too detrimental.
I've long maintained the 2013 XB1 reveal caused severe, lasting damage to their brand.
But Sony bereft of any competition is not a good thing, imo.
They aren't as similar as you think either. Xbox became about gamepass. Playstation still offers console, timed and full exclusivity plus a handheld and VR accessory and their own sub service. They also have a mid gen Pro console that's an actual upgrade vs launching theirs alongside a base model. There won't be anyone who can offer that ecosystem in the near future and PlayStations will only get better and more advanced. The last shot xbox had at being a real competitor died when they weren't able to make CoD exclusive and we're seeing their white flag pivot with Forza, gears and eventually halo being ported to playstationThose are not direct competitions , nintendo is aimed for different audience and PC is expensive not anyone can effort a gaming PC
You have pretty much the same games on PS5, Xbox, Switch and PCThose are not direct competitions , nintendo is aimed for different audience and PC is expensive not anyone can effort a gaming PC
My guess would be the difference now in comparison to the difference last-gen in the same timeframe?When he says "from Xbox," what does he mean? "6% from Xbox. 10% from Xbox." Is he saying the players are coming "from Xbox" over to Playstation? If so, how would he know that? Or is it just his inference based on Xbox sales trailing off and PS sales doing better?
MS was never competition, just a bully with a lot of money who put out a bunch of rejected products.Microsoft just simply made several mistakes over the years that proved too detrimental.
I've long maintained the 2013 XB1 reveal caused severe, lasting damage to their brand.
But Sony bereft of any competition is not a good thing, imo.
This stupid shit again?
Sony has plenty of competition. Xbox was competing with playstation, they just did an incredibly shitty job of it.
I didn't criticize you, I criticized your thought that you posted.Do you really need to be that hostile? Jesus, dude.
What? Maybe you don't understand what I said but Im talking about the call of duty player base, which has nothing to do with the consoles's userbase. In 2023 35% of all Call of Duty players were playing on an xbox console in November, according to this report, and in 2024, it went up to 47%. That's the 12% increase I'm referring to and this number has nothing to do with how big the Xbox or PS5 user base is.Percentages work exactly the opposite way, it's less impressive if the userbase is smaller
Spin? I'm literally just repeating what is written in the article. Hard to say if they didn't get a majority because Call of Duty is also available through gamepass on PC and this report doesn't seem to have those numbers.That's one way to spin it. A bunch of people inadvertently paying for the franchise and clicking download vs actual sales for a franchise and still not gaining a majority in your strongest region. 3% over 2022 when it wasn't on gamepass is not that great and it was declining on xbox until the gamepass addition. As the playerbase on PS increases further it would become difficult to show a jump since they no longer have gamepass users clicking it to rely on for any significant YoY increases.