PlayStation has also announced that Zero Dawn has sold over 20 million copies
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
I don't think many people realize that The Last of Us Part II is still selling pretty well.
PlayStation 4 Best sellers (Currently, not overall)
#7 Amazon US
#5 Target
Sold out at GameStop and Walmart. Only third-party sellers are selling at Walmart and only pre-owned copies at Gamestop.
November 2021 PlayStation 4 Top Sellers
US/CA
16th - Last of Us Part II
Europe
6th - Last of Us Part II
Spain Week 5
9th - The Last of Us Parte II
UK Week 4
20 - THE LAST OF US PART II
UK Week 5
23 - THE LAST OF US PART II
There's more data, but people are going to be surprised that it will eventually hit 20m copies sold.
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Ezquimacore
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the game was great for a first attempt, my only complain was Aloy being such a whiny bitch even when some people were trying to be nice and the typical monologue every time the main character from a sony game has a thought. Funny enough my favorite part was not the open world, it was the cauldrons. The sequel looks really pretty not gonna lie.
Trogdor1123
Member
I bought a hard copy of the goty version and it included a full copy of the game for download. That should be a single sale or 2?
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
That sounds like a safe bet, might actually get to the 4 million mark. I am guessing the attach rate to PS5's is going to be very high before we even start considering sales for the PS4 version.
I wonder how long it will take Forbidden West to match the 20 million figure of Zero Dawn.
KingGhidorah
Banned
what's wrong with numbers? you hate math?
GigaBowser
Banned
Fuck yeah. Deserved every sale.
Imtjnotu
Member
"Sold" means sold licenses/copies. This also includes free licenses as Sony still "pays" for them internally (even with ps+ or other things).
"Sold" numbers are just not reliable anymore after it was available for free.
I would still guess that it sold very well before, but the numbers are just not reliable anymore.
SLB1904
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Nope. No one wants that
Thirty7ven
Banned
Keep spreading that fud, you gotta put in the astroturfing hours if you want to rise through the ranks.
ethomaz
Banned
What that even means?
And no… Sony doesn't include PS+ in the units sold lol
After all PS+ version are not sold.
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Do you have actual proof of that, I assume they don't since they are temporary and connected to ps plus, but none of sonys materials state anything either way
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the other grey area is the ps5 instant collection games and the ones they game away during covid, since those are permanent licenses, unless I'm mistaken
But they do count the millions of copies that were bundled
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
This is false.
Sony reports sell-in and sell-through numbers as sold.
Based on Sony's history, they report sell-in (units shipped to retailers) for console sales and sell-through numbers (copies sold to customers) for their first part title sales.
What counts as sell-through are
- Copies that were purchased by customers digitally on the PS store, Epic Game Store, and Steam.
- Copies that were purchased by customers at retail stores.
- Copies sold with PlayStation consoles.
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Tiago Rodrigues
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People are having a hard time with these great numbers i see.
It sold 20M copies. Sony didn't say 20M people played the game. 20M people paid to have this game. That's it.
The game is available on PSNow, PSPlus, etc...do you really believe only 20M people downloaded and played the game? Specially when Sony made it available though their Play At Home initiative so everyone with a PS4 and PS5 could download it for free? (that would be over 100M people that could've played the game)
Sony is always clear with their numbers and don't usually hide them.
"Horizon Zero Dawn has officially sold over 20 MILLION copies around the world across PS4 and PC"
Sounds pretty obvious what it means.
ethomaz
Banned
Is it not obvious?
1b hours / 20mil copies sold = 50 hours per user.
Do you believe all 20 million users played that game for 50 hours? That is crazy when most players don't even have the story progress trophies.... the Nora's Boss trophy has a 50% completion... that means not even over 50% of the users played 20 hours in the game.
The 1b hours includes free players.... 20 million copies sold not.
Use the Chip 'n' Dale.
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Mr Moose
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No, it doesn't. It's sold-through to the consumer.
Lognor
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Mr Moose
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The fact that you would ignore all the facts proving his claim wrong only shows that you're only interested in false information.
leo-j
Member
They should say, over 50 million users played the game. Uncharted said they had 48 million players. Microsoft is using those numbers to gauge success amd look bigger than they actually are tbh. It's like saying, a song on spotify sold 1 billion records because it was streamed 1 billion times or something.
They report it as sell-through units.
Sold through never included free PS+ downloads.
So that s pretty definitive on ps+ though not surprising, didn't realize the ps5 thing was tied to plus, that just leaves the covid indoor thing as a grey area
Dforce gave proof, this is you making stuff up because its what you want
as in definitively not included, which as I said in the first post wasn't surprising as they are temporary licenses, that only leaves the horizon play at home licenses from april to may last year as the only anomaly
you take yours you make up stuff constantly because it is what you want, you're like a compulsive liar
in GAAP, sold through includes stuff given away is considered an expense item,
https://smallbusiness.chron.com/gaap-accounting-rules-expensing-samples-68075.html accounting is complicated, sold doesn't necessarily mean sold
ethomaz
Banned
He is just trying to made up a narrative like usual.
His claim doesn't even make sense with the actual public data.
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
The thing is everyone with a Switch has a least one of those games in that list because it came with the console
You can't say that about every best selling Playstation or Xbox game.
Although I do find it odd that the same IP can sell 3-5 million or 30-50mil
depending on if it was bundled or not...
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Lognor
Banned
I asked for a source. Why you so triggered? Provide source or shut up
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
When people get defensive, they often accuse people of being triggered. lol
What he said it's obviously false and we're just laughing at the fact that you want to believe that it's true.
Lognor
Banned
Again, I asked for a source. I did not outright believe him. You believe what you want to. So triggered by anything I post. Grow up
ethomaz
Banned
Are you MrA's alt?
DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
You're known to troll Sony related threads with bogus information all the time. You don't need a source when there are facts that prove he's wrong.
FrankWza
Member
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We're all still waiting for your source on the story you were telling about Sony begging microsoft for CoD. Otherwise, take your own advice.
Klayzer
Member
So many tears from the known hypocritical MS crybabies. Anyways, HZD is a seemingly monster franchise with its first release hitting the 20mil sold club. Don't know many games that have done that. Forbidden West is going to destroy, even though I will be playing Elden Ring first.
ethomaz
Banned
The Souls game userbase is smaller… they are less popular.
Don't get me wrong I love their games but the amount of gamers that buys them are smaller compared to others franchises.
I believe only DS3 crossed 10 million sales across all platforms.
But of course Elder Ring can surprise us and increase the franchise actual userbase.
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Klayzer
Member
No doubt. I was speaking on a more personal side for the franchises. Ultimately, its almost a certainty that FW will do better than Elden Ring, but I think ER will be the breakout Souls game that will hit between 10-15 mil lifetime sales.
Patrick S.
Banned
I bought my first PS4 for this game.
Was going to buy the Slim at €250, but they had a bundle with Horizon, a second Dual Shock 4, and three (or was it six?) months of PS+ for €300. Really awesome deal.
Anyway, in the end, I liked the game but kinda never played more than maybe three or four hours. Maybe I'll finish it now that I double dipped on PC
Was going to buy the Slim at €250, but they had a bundle with Horizon, a second Dual Shock 4, and three (or was it six?) months of PS+ for €300. Really awesome deal.
Anyway, in the end, I liked the game but kinda never played more than maybe three or four hours. Maybe I'll finish it now that I double dipped on PC
Calling 911 Melts Beams
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Congrats aluminum