PlayStation Vita Sales See Massive Spike in Japan (nearly six times increase)
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I'm curious why you think that.
Maybe is not that obvious, but some months from now, the sequels of the most popular Vita IP will be annouced (Gravity Rush 2, Ragnarok Odyssey 2, Hatsune Miku f Expansion) and it will improve the "has no gaemz" condition.
People often forget, but there is some successful vita games, mostly B-tier.
People often forget, but there is some successful vita games, mostly B-tier.
DR2K
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Their biggest one already failed to. Why should anyone expect their lower tier games to do it?
In Vita's case it's not big name software that will sell it, being an appealing portable in Japan is going to be a major factor in its success. With a more appealing price and a wider range of software to choose from will be more than enough to sustain healthy sales in that region.
zeopower6
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They're probably referring to the WiiU as opposed to the 3DS? Though the 3DS wasn't doing so hot until a price drop and a ton of good software options. :/
When the library for the Vita starts filling out, the sales will come. At the moment, they really don't have all that much new material to support the Vita. I mean, really, did anyone buy 3DSes until they started to get good games?
BronsonLee
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3 things I'm taking from this thread.
1: The price cut helped, but not as much as people think
2: GAF still hates the Vita with the power of a thousand red suns
3: PSO2 is the main reason for the spike of sales
1: The price cut helped, but not as much as people think
2: GAF still hates the Vita with the power of a thousand red suns
3: PSO2 is the main reason for the spike of sales
metalslimer
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Since when did B tier=100k?
So Sony has a massive price cut, Senran Kagura outsells PSO2, and you think PSO2 caused the spike
KillerTravis
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Judging by the release schedule, they aren't. At least not near anywhere of the support the PSP had.
you do realize home console =/= handheld.
The Vita has no chance to recover (in Japan) without relevant third party support. To get this support the sales needed to be much much higher but this won´t happen without third party support. A vicious circle.
What hasn't been true so far and most certainly isn't true today is the idiotic phrase 'Vita is dead'. Anybody that has uttered that phrase in sincerity ought to hang their head in shame and reflect upon their utter inability to distinguish between a struggling platform and a dead platform.
Seriously, "Vitas dead, you guys just need to let go.".
Just chew on that sentence. What does that even mean? The device has been officially discontinued and will no longer play games so you might as well pack it up in a box and put it on a shelf?
You can compare the Dreamcast* and the Vita in many ways but acting as if they both have the exact same market relevance and future prospects just makes you look like a bit of an idiot.
*seemed like a suitable 'dead' platform.
For number 2, don't confuse a vocal minority with 'GAF' at large.
For number 3, I think Senran Kagura had a larger effect. Boob power.
Enters a positive Vita news thread.
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Yep, that pretty much nails it for me too. Why are people so eager to see a gaming option die I'll never know.
peanutbutterlatte
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Come on now people. Can't we just agree that more is better than less in this scenario?
Senran Kagura was the big Vita release, not PSO2.
metalslimer
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Actually Vita has worse prospects worldwide. Dreamcast broke records at launch and managed to shift a of software before dying.
zeopower6
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I don't think that's likely... it's possible, but unlikely imo. Senran Kagura probably had more of an effect on sales along with the price drop.
walking fiend
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read the rest of the article:
"Today, confirmation of Vita’s huge sales in Japan have come by way of Gematsu,"
You normally choose a very positive title, when you want to give a positive vibe; just mentioning the massive spike mentioning that it was selling so low before, means that you tried to twist the result by not providing the whole story.
It's funny how forum posters twist news to fit their agenda.
A 550% increase in sales (compared to last week's) isn't a massive spike? Are you high?
But handhelds are more popular in Japan than consoles...
Well despite the Vita's terrible sales it seems like devs are quite happy with the platform. Obviously indies are on board and finding success and Ubisoft was happy with AC3L sales. COD sold well too despite being terribly overpriced. The Vita must have a sky high attachment rate.
airmangataosenai
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I explain it in the post. It's mainly because handhelds always have the trump card of a hardware revision even if sales aren't able to stabilize.
I'm also not expecting the onslaught of software people seem to be counting on for the Wii U this holiday and if it's just Mario Kart/Zelda remake then that probably won't have much impact.
I doubt that about the Wii U. It depends on how the PS4 and whatever MS has planned perform/launch with among other things.
The Vita can still recover, as long as they actually get some good games behind it, and slash the prices on those damn memory cards.
Vita Heaven 2 hasn't happened yet. It probably won't happen at all.
Are you thinking of the price-cut announcement?
zeopower6
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That's why they still love the PSP.
I don't think they're actually going to make Vita Heaven 2 happen after the last one... and the last "PlayStation Vita" news thing on USTREAM or w/e wasn't even Vita Heaven but the thread here said it was so people were disappointed when no new games were revealed :/
Gintoki313
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I was expecting this with Phantasy Star Online 2, Senran Kagura Shinovi versus, and that price drop all at one time happening. If those 2 games and a price drop happened in America I'd jump to go get a Vita... oh wait, I already have a Vita 
Why are people so defensive and irrational when faced with the truth?
OldJadedGamer
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Nintendo knows this and why the 3DS had a turn around.
NSMB was one of their biggest franchises on Wii/DS, doesn´t mean it´s the same on WiiU. 3D Mario, Zelda and others are going to push the sales much more than a 2D Mario rehash.
But you need to have some perspective on the numbers.
If say 3DS had a 5x increase in sales the numbers would be absolutely insane.
If the 360 had a 5x increase in sales it wouldn't even be a blip on the radar.
walking fiend
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did you read my first post where I said even 20k is a massive spike?
Titles that aren't informative, are usually click baits; 'massive spike in sales', without mentioning how low the sales initially were, and that how 'low' even the spike is, is not an informative title.
Not to mention, in the article they use the word 'huge' for the sales, which is just not correct at all.
Baconsammy
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The sad thing is that two really poorly thought out products are giving people the false impression that gaming is dying.
It's painful but it's true.
zeopower6
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I know, why is that? Someone points out that people obviously want to see the Vita implode upon itself no matter how good the news is about sales and people still think "DOOM".
Yeah, the Vita's not going to sell as much or more than the 3DS at this rate, but I don't think anyone is expecting it to at this point in time.
Napalm_Frank
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So when precisely will new games stop releasing on the Vita? I'd like to know.
Wii U dying is a bigger deal than Vita dying. Anyone saying that based off of Wii U sales? Maybe. Off of Vita sales? lol no.
FantasticMrFoxdie
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DR2K
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I'm not really sure how that's going to work out in terms of logic and numbers, but I'm sure they'll be better games.
airmangataosenai
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If you were using that standard then isn't the DS a failure in Japan when you compare it to the DS? At this point in the DS's life there wasn't a week where it sold under 100k for an entire year. The week that Dragon Quest VII hit would've been mediocre sales during a week of no releases for the DS.
Ozzykamikaze
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aka "Grrrr, I hate Sony so much, please be dead! PLEASE!"
If PSO catches on, I can see this lasting longer than a week or two.
Yeah, ditto. Dedicated handhelds are fantastic and I don't want them to go away, though this DOES seem to indicate their fate is to remain the cheap gaming devices to get. Not that I mind much, it's probably even more important in this era of smartphones and tablets actually as those come closer to necessities and people would rather their fun machine that can LOOK redundant to be at a low price.
Napalm_Frank
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SS hasn't released yet.
I was expecting this with Phantasy Star Online 2, Senran Kagura Shinovi versus, and that price drop all at one time happening. If those 2 games and a price drop happened in America I'd jump to go get a Vita... oh wait, I already have a Vita
Yeah, there's more to it than just the price drop. I'm interested to see what Soul Sacrifice does for it next week -- it seems to appeal to a similar demographic as Monster Hunter. Tales of Hearts R drops next week too, so I think there's a decent chance that this week's sales may even be topped.
I think you have delusions of grandeur.
Good to see the spike, some great releases in Japan as of late, really looking forward to Soul Sacrifice
It's statistically impossible that the Vita will pass the 3DS in lifetime sales, but that's beside the point and that doesn't matter. If the Vita can establish itself as the number 2 console in Japan, it can have an awesome future. I don't think that'll happen.
Wait what are you talking about? That's not my point at all. I'm saying using a raw multiplier increase to tell the whole story can be misleading.
Comparing the quantity sold from two different platforms, that have performed very differently isn't perspective.
Yes I saw it. And "huge" is relative.
You wouldn't know 'the truth' if it bit you on the cock.
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