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PlayStation: "When Worlds Collide" [Insomniac game, leaked as R&C: Into The Nexus]

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How do we know its a PS3 game? Confirmation? Link?

If it really is a PS3 only game then fuck it, hype killed.
 
Of course, of course the software would do better.

That's not what I was saying at all, what I am saying is that it will give the hardware a boost. (Meaning more sales for games in the future since the install base is larger).
Wii U suffered from the cyclical problem of having no games which led to poor hardware sales, which led to poor future software sales because the install base is small.

I'm not saying the PS4 is in trouble without Ratchet and Clank, but it certainly wouldn't hurt.

And do you know why its software release was so sparse.....it had little to none third party support. PS4 does not need to worry about that especially since a lot of Sony's first party are already working on PS4 titles.
 

Verendus

Banned
How it will be fruitful for Sony?

Increased hardware sales through 2014 and may help Sony jump out to an early lead.

Software sells systems, not exactly rocket science here.
Following is a general post relating to 'games being announced for PS3 being a less than smart move'. Just speaking in general and not referencing anything specific.

It's not like Sony hasn't planned several games for the PS4.

Killzone: Shadow Fall
Drive Club
Knack
Infamous: Second Son

These are all from first party teams. Three of them are there at launch, and the other one is coming within a few months from launch.

Naughty Dog are working on a PS4 game.
Guerilla Games has a second project in the works for the PS4.
Sony Santa Monica are working on a PS4 game.
Polyphony Digital are working on a PS4 Gran Turismo.
Team Ico has gone to PS4.
SCEJ has several titles planned for the PS4.

The list above doesn't include partnerships for exclusives like The Order: 1886 which is due to be released in 2014. There are seventeen or so studios within SCE. That's a lot of people.

Even if you don't include unannounced titles, which won't be unannounced for a great deal of time regardless, SCE has already announced 5 exclusives for the PS4 within the first year. They're all retail releases and not minor digital ones. There are more to be announced. The console isn't even released yet.

Even if, hypothetically speaking, PS3 is given a couple titles, it's not like the PS4 is going to be hurting. Not everything can be on the PS4 nor does it need to.

There is enough software coming to sell the PS4.
 
"PS3 has no games" wasn't a huge meme for no reason

The price/developing on the cell certainly didn't help, but it's not a binary either/or situation here. You want people to buy your console, you need games people want.

Yeah, "ps3 had no games", because they went with the cell (making it hard to develop for) and launched a console at a ridiculous price, as you say. Developers and publishers (a few of them, not all) kept their distance from the ps3 in the first year or so, and rightfully so.
 

ymmv

Banned
Okay? Read the reviews from ToD forward to ACiT. All of them repeat the exact same thing: We want new mechanics, new weapons, this is the same tried and true formula, need something fresh.

Then they develop something fresh, and it get's blasted for not being traditional R&C. That's what each and every one of those reviews will tell you, lol. Those scores for A4O and FFA are almost all lower because they complain very strongly about them not being "traditional" or not having the same "Ratchet feel" despite being very clear what they are from the gate.

I never think something is "reviewed wrong" but those reviews speak for themselves. They were good games.

No they weren't.

I finished all three R&C games on the PS3, ACiT is in my top 5 of all PS3 games. It's a perfect mix of action, platforming and puzzling - and it's funny too boot. I actually was excited for A41, but then I played it. I didn't even finish the first level. I played for less than 30 minutes and never touched it again. What unremitting piece of crap. One of the worst games I ever played. It's a good thing I downloaded the game, if I'd bought it I'd have smashed the disk to pieces with a hammer and burned the case with a torch.
 
No they were not. They were both poorly executed. When the reviewers said "We want something different" they didn't mean "We'll take anything different even if it sucks over the same thing again"

THIS. 8byte's "you wanted change and you got it, it's YOUR fault" argument defies any form of logic. Insomniac made changes, sure, but those changes were BAD. Expecting people to just accept the games and love them no matter what is fucking stupid.

Anyway, I'd write off the possibility of a Vita port. We've already seen how hideously Insomniac's engine scales down to the Vita and no-one should want a repeat of that.
 

Kane1345

Member
Man I really hope it's a proper Ratchet and Clank (ala A Crack in Time) and it's on the PS4. In saying that I'll still get it on PS3......if it's good.
 

boingball

Member
A new R&C game? I want to get hyped for this. But need to get more info. If it is classic R&C (e.g. like ACiT) then that would be great news! Doesn't matter the platform (PS3, PS4, Vita). Of course I would also want the Insomniac A-Team working on it. But those are most likely working on their other IP (I always forget the name)...
 
<3

I'm not saying it makes sense for Insomniac, but that it would be beneficial for Sony. Which I'm assuming they are paying Insomniac royalties for exclusivity.
Yeah I'm with you. Sony needs more exclusives for PS4 fast. As a wise girl once said, Pfff that's stupid, just as people choosing not to eat for the looks.

God, so many memorable quotes.
 

Mifune

Mehmber
There was praise for the "Pixar quality" assets (apparently no one had played Kameo), not the image quality. If you looked deeper there were a lot of complaints about the blur and the letter boxing.

Nope. People were saying it was the most gorgeous console game at the time.
 

Vire

Member
And do you know why its software release was so sparse.....it had little to none third party support. PS4 does not need to worry about that especially since a lot of Sony's first party are already working on PS4 titles.

Right and I agree with this, they have plenty for launch itself, I'm talking about past launch window when exclusives dry up.

As is, PS4 is in a much better stance than the Wii U was in terms of planned software coming.

So as I said it wouldn't be the end of the world if this game didn't come to PS4, but it certainly would help to have a franchise as popular as Ratchet and Clank on the system. There's a reason they made 11 Ratchet games so far.
 
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Following is a general post relating to 'games being announced for PS3 being a less than smart move'. Just speaking in general and not referencing anything specific.

It's not like Sony hasn't planned several games for the PS4.

Killzone: Shadow Fall
Drive Club
Knack
Infamous: Second Son

These are all from first party teams. Three of them are there at launch, and the other one is coming within a few months from launch.

Naughty Dog are working on a PS4 game.
Guerilla Games has a second project in the works for the PS4.
Sony Santa Monica are working on a PS4 game.
Polyphony Digital are working on a PS4 Gran Turismo.
Team Ico has gone to PS4.
SCEJ has several titles planned for the PS4.

The list above doesn't include partnerships for exclusives like The Order: 1886 which is due to be released in 2014. There are seventeen or so studios within SCE. That's a lot of people.

Even if you don't include unannounced titles, which won't be unannounced for a great deal of time regardless, SCE has already announced 5 exclusives for the PS4 within the first year. They're all retail releases and not minor digital ones. There are more to be announced. The console isn't even released yet.

Even if, hypothetically speaking, PS3 is given a couple titles, it's not like the PS4 is going to be hurting. Not everything can be on the PS4 nor does it need to.

There is enough software coming to sell the PS4.

Thank you for clearing that up.
 

Himself

Member
We already have 5 new R&C games on PS3, with three of them basically being completely forgettable.

My hopes are for Vita or PS4.
 

DC1

Member
The replayability ended after I Platinumed it.
Agreed. And that's true for so many games considering multiple playthroughs are req'red for the Plat.

The last game that I played post plat in the last 4 years was Dragon's Dogma (Dark Arisen) because Yeah...it was that good.
 

KalBalboa

Banned
Watching the reactions in this thread is really something.


Oh, a new Sony exclusive! Nice!

Oh, it's Ratchet mainline from Insomniac!? Awesome!

Wait, it could be PS3? Oh, it'll be garbage! Resistance 3 was piss!

A mainline Ratchet from Insomniac never disappoints, no matter what console it's on.
 
Watching the reactions in this thread is really something.


Oh, a new Sony exclusive! Nice!

Oh, it's Ratchet mainline from Insomniac!? Awesome?

Wait, it could be PS3? Oh, it'll be garbage! Resistance 3 was piss!

A mainline Ratchet from Insomniac never disappoints, no matter what console it's on.

yet again this thread can come to a logical calculation:
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Mifune

Mehmber
No they weren't.

I finished all three R&C games on the PS3, ACiT is in my top 5 of all PS3 games. It's a perfect mix of action, platforming and puzzling - and it's funny too boot. I actually was excited for A41, but then I played it. I didn't even finish the first level. I played for less than 30 minutes and never touched it again. What unremitting piece of crap. One of the worst games I ever played. It's a good thing I downloaded the game, if I'd bought it I'd have smashed the disk to pieces with a hammer and burned the case.

Oh Jesus.

A4O is geared toward a younger, more casual audience than the other Ratchet games. It's simpler, shorter, and built for co-op. And it's fine for what it is. Stop being so fucking dramatic.
 

Fox_Mulder

Rockefellers. Skull and Bones. Microsoft. Al Qaeda. A Cabal of Bankers. The melting point of steel. What do these things have in common? Wake up sheeple, the landfill wasn't even REAL!
Insomniac, you have the possibility to be redemeed:
AAA PS4 title? Redemeed
Low budget PS3 title for make some money? Say goodbye to my money (forever)
Make your choice!

with love, an old aficionados
 

Verendus

Banned
Watching the reactions in this thread is really something.


Oh, a new Sony exclusive! Nice!

Oh, it's Ratchet mainline from Insomniac!? Awesome!

Wait, it could be PS3? Oh, it'll be garbage! Resistance 3 was piss!

A mainline Ratchet from Insomniac never disappoints, no matter what console it's on.
I warned them only disappointment awaits at the end of threads like these as soon as they started hyping up SSM's new IP.

I feel sorry for Insomniac now. Kind of. Maybe.
 

Mifune

Mehmber
Right and I agree with this, they have plenty for launch itself, I'm talking about past launch window when exclusives dry up.

As is, PS4 is in a much better stance than the Wii U was in terms of planned software coming.

So as I said it wouldn't be the end of the world if this game didn't come to PS4, but it certainly would help to have a franchise as popular as Ratchet and Clank on the system. There's a reason they made 11 Ratchet games so far.

They have 20 exclusives planned for the first year! How many more do they need?
 

reminder

Member
I just imagined a PS3 game and you play it just as normal and then you get to that portal and you go through it and then the screen goes black with the words "To be continued.... on PS4".
 

Vire

Member
They have 20 exclusives planned for the first year! How many more do they need?

Exclusives as in exclusive games or exclusives as in "we can call this Assassin's Creed DLC pack an exclusive and bump up this number right?"

I'm thinking more of the latter.

PR companies will do whatever and say whatever they think the public wants to hear when it's not the full truth.
 

DC1

Member
The replayability ended after I Platinumed it.
Agreed. And that's true for so many games considering multiple playthroughs are req'red for the Plat.

The last game that I played post plat in the last 4 years was Dragon's Dogma (Dark Arisen) because Yeah...it was that good.
 

Possum

Member
I'd the main team made this one, I'll be excited. I fucking loved A Crack In Time.

Brian Allgeier is involved, probably as creative director. He has worked on every Ratchet from their Burbank studio, aka the first one up to A Crack in Time.

I have very high hopes, regardless of the platform. That really shouldn't "deflate" one's enthusiasm for it.
 

ymmv

Banned
Watching the reactions in this thread is really something.

Oh, a new Sony exclusive! Nice!

Oh, it's Ratchet mainline from Insomniac!? Awesome!

Wait, it could be PS3? Oh, it'll be garbage! Resistance 3 was piss!

A mainline Ratchet from Insomniac never disappoints, no matter what console it's on.

I'm excited for a mainline R&C game from Insomniac. It's just that the timing is completely off. It looks like this could be a 2014 title, and then it wouldn't make much sense to release a PS3 game when Sony should be concentrating on the PS4. Plus there are already five R&C games for the PS3. A next gen R&C for the PS4 would be more exciting than the sixth PS3 game.

(I'll still buy a mainline game for the PS3 in a heart beat of course. If it's another downloadable title focused on multiplayer/co-op, then the answer is the tracy-jordan-no-no-no-no.gif )
 
you people screaming out for it to be on PS4 make no sense
do you honestly think every single person who owns a PS3 is going to go out and buy a PS4 day one
cause it aint happening
 

VanWinkle

Member
Exclusives as in exclusive games or exclusives as in "we can call this Assassin's Creed DLC pack an exclusive and bump up this number right?"

I'm thinking more of the latter.

PR companies will do whatever and say whatever they think the public wants to hear when it's not the full truth.

Exclusive games.
 

scitek

Member
Brian Allgeier is involved, probably as creative director. He has worked on every Ratchet from their Burbank studio, aka the first one up to A Crack in Time.

I have very high hopes, regardless of the platform. That really shouldn't "deflate" one's enthusiasm for it.

Thanks for that. Fingers crossed.
 
Exclusives as in exclusive games or exclusives as in "we can call this Assassin's Creed DLC pack an exclusive and bump up this number right?"

I'm thinking more of the latter.

PR companies will do whatever and say whatever they think the public wants to hear when it's not the full truth.

20 first party games.
 
Exclusives as in exclusive games or exclusives as in "we can call this Assassin's Creed DLC pack an exclusive and bump up this number right?"

I'm thinking more of the latter.

PR companies will do whatever and say whatever they think the public wants to hear when it's not the full truth.

exclusive games they have around 40 exclusive content from multiplat-games but 30 exclusive games 20 of which will arrive in the first year 12 of which are new I.Ps
 
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