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Pokémon Black/White |OT2| International Edition

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N4Us

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mooooose said:
How do I beat the Elite 4? Jesus christ, I can't even beat one trainer.

What are the types exactly and what are they weak against? What team do you guys suggest?

If you have Pokemon that know Dark moves you can pretty much win against the Ghost and Psychic guys for free. You can use Fighting moves against the Dark trainer and Flying/Psychic against the Fighting one.
 

Magnus

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I don't understand all the difficulties with the Elite 4 and the final battles. I was an underleveled, under-manned mess (only my starter at 48 or 50 or something, and nothing else above 35) and with some liberal use of items, I managed to scrape by with only one loss.
 

Merovin

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I am going to cry, I can't do any more ditto farming! I've caught about 25 ditto so far (yeah I know that's not actually that many, but it's been painful!), and I may finally have one with 31 in Speed, and maybe 31 in attack, though it's not 100%, does anyone know of a better calculator/method to double check that one?

0–0 HP; 30–31/15–16 Physical; 19–20/10–11 Special; 24–25 Speed

Here are the natures of others I've captured, nothing to spectacular, but if anyone's interested, give me a shout.

Serious
Careful
Docile
Gentle
Docile
Impish
Quirky
Timid
Naughty
Naïve
Rash
Relaxed
Hardy
Hasty
Naive
Careful
Lax
Brave
Sassy
Mild
 

tim1138

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Gravijah said:
He has a catch rate of 3, which is used for the hardest to catch legendaries.

Mr. Sam said:
Three. Three.

Holy Jesus, that makes it all the more tempting to blow my Master Ball on him.
And to whoever suggested the Quick Ball, you don't think I've tried that as well?
 

Andrefpvs

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Andrex said:
The musical prop guy would be on the important list, but he stopped giving me props when I changed my clock for daylight savings. :(

Here too. What the hell, I want that perfect Trainer Card.
 

Morokh

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Andrex said:
Two are less important: White Forest stuff (talk to everyone and catch the Pokemon) and the rock giver girl in Moor of Icirrus.

is this important if you did not connect to a black version ?
 

Wiseblade

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tim1138 said:
Holy Jesus, that makes it all the more tempting to blow my Master Ball on him.
And to whoever suggested the Quick Ball, you don't think I've tried that as well?

If the battle's goes on for a while, Time Balls will outperfrom Dusk Balls. That's all I've got.
 

tim1138

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Wiseblade said:
If the battle's goes on for a while, Time Balls will outperfrom Dusk Balls. That's all I've got.

Yeah I really need to find a way to grind some cash quickly and stock up on Timer Balls, I only have a couple.
 

ThatObviousUser

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Andrefpvs said:
Here too. What the hell, I want that perfect Trainer Card.

Same!

Hopefully he starts giving them again when I change it back (in... September, I think?) I should still be playing then. Hopefully I'll remember to get it every day then.
 

D-Pad

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Andrex said:
Two are less important: White Forest stuff (talk to everyone and catch the Pokemon) and the rock giver girl in Moor of Icirrus.

She's actually on Route 8 right before Tubeline Bridge (in case those reading this go looking for her :p).
 

ThatObviousUser

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D-Pad said:
She's actually on Route 8 right before Tubeline Bridge (in case those reading this go looking for her :p).

Ah OK. Yeah I just go from Opelucid to her that way, don't really feel like blowing a Max Repel.
 

Mrcapcom

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Whats the best way to trade pokemon? I'm fairly new to this game and I have nothing in return what you guys suggest I do?
I wanted:
Zorua
Solosis

I don' t have any previous game saves to get Zorua either. I just beat the first gym too lol super noob. Thanks in advance!
 

ThatObviousUser

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Morokh said:
Okay, so the 'not talking to everyone' part is actually what made that i had no item for a week now xD

Well it is also random, you're never really guaranteed an item unfortunately.

But yeah. According to Serebii, everybody decreases by 5 points every day. Talking to them buffs them up 10 points, and just showing up buffs everyone by 3 points. The items you get are dependent on the NPC themselves. Full list here.

Although it seems I was mistaken, their points value seems to have no effect on what kind of items they leave. As long as they're there, you have a chance at their item. But it seems like it takes longer for people to leave in White Forest than Black City.
 
The Broken Ska Record said:
I have the pass, but where do I go? :0

There's a cruise ship you can take on the far west docks of the big city, which effectively takes you to Liberty Island (Deus Ex flashbacks, agh!)

edit: beaten, bleh
 

JVIDICAN

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Shed_a_Ninja said:
Using Veekun's superior Generation 5 IV calculator, my ideal Golurk's stats should be-


At level 50

Adamant Nature

HP: 164/31 IVs/0 EVs
HP: 177/31 IVs/100 EVs

Attack: 158/31 IVs/0 EVs
Attack: 173/31 IVs/110 EVs

Defense: 100/31 IVs/0 EVs
Defense: 113/31 IVs/100 EVs

Special Attack: 67/31 IVs/0 EVs

Special Defense: 100/31 IVs/0 EVs
Special Defense: 113/31 IVs/100 EVs

Speed: 75/31 IVs/0 EVs
Speed: 88/31 IVs/100 EVs
Why are you spreading out the EVs like that. It'll end in a "jack of all trades master of none" situation. Also, there's a good chance you wont be able to go online with that thing. The pokemons ID is tied to IV's and if they're changed the legality checker will block you from wi-fi matches. If your really planning on using a hacked mon you'll have to generate a legit ID that matches the IV's and nature of it.
 

ThatObviousUser

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Crazymoogle said:
There's a cruise ship you can take on the far west docks of the big city, which effectively takes you to Liberty Island (Deus Ex flashbacks, agh!)

edit: beaten, bleh

Liberty Garden actually, copyright issues and whatnot. ;)
 
JVIDICAN said:
Why are you spreading out the EVs like that. It'll end in a "jack of all trades master of none" situation. Also, there's a good chance you wont be able to go online with that thing. The pokemons ID is tied to IV's and if they're changed the legality checker will block you from wi-fi matches. If your really planning on using a hacked mon you'll have to generate a legit ID that matches the IV's and nature of it.

My perfect Chandelure has gone through perfectly, even being able to be put up on GTS. So Nintendo's legality checker needs to be re-checked.
 

JVIDICAN

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Shed_a_Ninja said:
My perfect Chandelure has gone through perfectly, even being able to be put up on GTS. So Nintendo's legality checker needs to be re-checked.
Trading only checks for EV limits. Wi-fi battles check moves, ID's EV's, ect.
I bet my natural Chadelure could kick your hacks arse! >:p
 
JVIDICAN said:
Trading only checks for EV limits. Wi-fi battles check moves, ID's EV's, ect.
I bet my natural Chadelure could kick your hacks arse! >:p

Depends on your EV/IV setup. I bet you have yours with higher EVs for Special Attack and Speed.
 

Wiseblade

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Shed_a_Ninja said:
Depends on your EV/IV setup. I bet you have yours with higher EVs for Special Attack and Speed.

And if he can't OHKO with a specialised EV spread, then you definitely won't. And then he'll outspeed you to get the 2HKO.
 
Anyway, I tried fixing up my Ferrothorn in Pokesav with this setup-

Level 50

Sassy Nature (Special Defense +/Speed -)

HP: 162/31 IVs/100 EVs
Attack: 127/31 IVs/100 EVs
Defense: 164/31 IVs/100 EVs
Special Attack: 74/31 IVs/0 EVs
Special Defense: 178/31 IVs/210 EVs
Speed: 36/30 IVs/0 EVs



Instead, I got this (with that IV/EV spread inputted in Pokesav)-

Level 50

Sassy Nature (Special Defense +/Speed -)

HP: 162
Attack: 127
Defense: 164
Special Attack: 100
Special Defense: 136
Speed: 40


So there is something seriously wrong with the program.
 

JVIDICAN

Member
Shed_a_Ninja said:
Don't you mean Special Defense? Or are you hoping that you'd face a lot of Rock-based moves?

EDIT: Forgot Ground. But you'd switch out anyway.
Most dark move are physical as well.
But mostly because it's a trick room user, which is pointless if your maxing speed.
 
Andrex said:
The musical prop guy would be on the important list, but he stopped giving me props when I changed my clock for daylight savings. :(

FYI, he only gives you four props in all. They're Santa themed, a beard, a gift box, a Santa hat, and a bag. The rest you have to earn by performing in musicals and are given to you by random people in the entrance hall after your performance.

The musical theater owner gives you a few special ones when you talk to him after certain situations. He is on the upper floor.

- Crown prop when you talk to him after you win first place in a musical 5 times(maybe just one, I forgot)

- Winner's Belt after you win first place 30 times

- Tiara when you play with another real person. Talk to the lady to the left behind the counter to connect to someone. How you perform doesn't matter.

- Birthday Cake when you talk to him on your Birthday. I don't recommend you change the date on your DS to match your birthday, but rather change your birthday to match the date on your DS. That's what worked for me. :)

Hope this helped! I've had my gold trainer card for a few days now. :3 Just need to get those streaks in the Subway now... :(
 

ThatObviousUser

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Endless-Bravado said:
FYI, he only gives you four props in all. They're Santa themed, a beard, a gift box, a Santa hat, and a bag. The rest you have to earn by performing in musicals and are given to you by random people in the entrance hall after your performance.

The musical theater owner gives you a few special ones when you talk to him after certain situations. He is on the upper floor.

- Crown prop when you talk to him after you win first place in a musical 5 times(maybe just one, I forgot)

- Winner's Belt after you win first place 30 times

- Tiara when you play with another real person. Talk to the lady to the left behind the counter to connect to someone. How you perform doesn't matter.

- Birthday Cake when you talk to him on your Birthday. I don't recommend you change the date on your DS to match your birthday, but rather change your birthday to match the date on your DS. That's what worked for me. :)

Hope this helped! I've had my gold trainer card for a few days now. :3 Just need to get those streaks in the Subway now... :(

Yes, this does help!! I must have asked about this like four times now. Thanks for laying it all out like this!
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Roto13

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Aad said:
Ahh I've just realised that I missed so many events for legendaries on my SoulSilver cart. Is there any way to still get these?
If you don't mind clones.
tim1138 said:
Now I finally understand the aggravation of trying to catch Metang, good lord he must have one of the lowest catch rates in the game. Got Reshiram first try and this guy just eats Ultra Balls for breakfast.
Gravijah said:
He has a catch rate of 3, which is used for the hardest to catch legendaries.
In other news, Reshiram has a catch rate of 45. :p

Andrex said:
There are only about seven I care about, and only three are truly important for me.

Three are important: Heart Scale giver in Driftveil City, Star Piece from the Challenge Rock, and the treasure hunter on Route 13.

Two are less important: White Forest stuff (talk to everyone and catch the Pokemon) and the rock giver girl in Moor of Icirrus.

Two are not important but nice: Village Bridge waiter job and the clown giving berries in the Castelia Gallery.

The musical prop guy would be on the important list, but he stopped giving me props when I changed my clock for daylight savings. :(
Don't forget the guy who gives you fossils in Twist Mountain, who I didn't know about until yesterday. Maybe I could have gotten a Cranidos without having someone breed him for me. :p
 

yeb

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Shed_a_Ninja said:
My perfect Chandelure has gone through perfectly, even being able to be put up on GTS. So Nintendo's legality checker needs to be re-checked.
Let me guess. You didn't actually want to trade the perfect Chandelure, so you asked for something impossible like a level 9 Zekrom?
 

ThatObviousUser

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Roto13 said:
If you don't mind clones.


In other news, Reshiram has a catch rate of 45. :p


Don't forget the guy who gives you fossils in Twist Mountain, who I didn't know about until yesterday. Maybe I could have gotten a Cranidos without having someone breed him for me. :p

Right right that guy. I did get some fossils from him but, well, I already have all the fossil Pokemon and their evolutions. Push comes to shove I'd probably just breed them if I wanted another one. :p
 

vall03

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wtf?! someone is giving you free fossils everyday?! this is the first time I heard this! I already had all fossil Pokemon since DP, oh well...

why the hell are some stuff so easy to get here while others are difficult?! need evo stones... :(
 

Roto13

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vall03 said:
wtf?! someone is giving you free fossils everyday?! this is the first time I heard this! I already had all fossil Pokemon since DP, oh well...

why the hell are some stuff so easy to get here while others are difficult?! need evo stones... :(
Well, you can occasionally find evo stones in dust clouds in caves. You can also ask here if there's one in particular you're looking for. I managed to get a few stones on here for free, or for Pokemon. :p
 

Andrefpvs

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Endless-Bravado said:
FYI, he only gives you four props in all. They're Santa themed, a beard, a gift box, a Santa hat, and a bag. The rest you have to earn by performing in musicals and are given to you by random people in the entrance hall after your performance.

The musical theater owner gives you a few special ones when you talk to him after certain situations. He is on the upper floor.

- Crown prop when you talk to him after you win first place in a musical 5 times(maybe just one, I forgot)

- Winner's Belt after you win first place 30 times

- Tiara when you play with another real person. Talk to the lady to the left behind the counter to connect to someone. How you perform doesn't matter.

- Birthday Cake when you talk to him on your Birthday. I don't recommend you change the date on your DS to match your birthday, but rather change your birthday to match the date on your DS. That's what worked for me. :)

Hope this helped! I've had my gold trainer card for a few days now. :3 Just need to get those streaks in the Subway now... :(

Thank you! Damn Serebii... :|
 

isny

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Since one of you mentioned Victini may be worth catching, I tried my hand at it. Had him paralyzed, confused, etc. and spent about an hour resetting and could never get him.

I'm guessing it's not worth the time trying until later in the game?
 

vall03

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Roto13 said:
Well, you can occasionally find evo stones in dust clouds in caves. You can also ask here if there's one in particular you're looking for. I managed to get a few stones on here for free, or for Pokemon. :p
posted it a few pages back but I really had no luck with the dustclouds, whats worse is that only Sun and Shiny are available in my Black City and no one in my White Forest will sell an evo stone even if I transfer them. I want to trade but I currently have no wifi... :(
 
yeb said:
Let me guess. You didn't actually want to trade the perfect Chandelure, so you asked for something impossible like a level 9 Zekrom?

That would have been the smart thing to do, but I set it to Abomasnow or something and quickly took it back.

So yeah, all of those people being "dicks" on GTS are doing it for a reason.

Their own legality checker
 

Izayoi

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isny said:
Since one of you mentioned Victini may be worth catching, I tried my hand at it. Had him paralyzed, confused, etc. and spent about an hour resetting and could never get him.

I'm guessing it's not worth the time trying until later in the game?
Yeah. Unless you get lucky or somehow have the money for hundreds of Pokeballs you're pretty much SoL until later.
 

ThatObviousUser

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Izayoi said:
Yeah. Unless you get lucky or somehow have the money for hundreds of Pokeballs you're pretty much SoL until later.

I was able to catch it pretty easily I thought... Guess I was lucky.
 

Gravijah

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Shed_a_Ninja said:
Can eggs be traded? I was wondering if my bad egg can be traded to my unused copy of Black so that way a box spot isn't taken up in my White.

Eggs can be traded, yeah. Dunno about bad eggs, though.
 
Just ordered my copy with a new DS, since mine is broken. I've been listening to the music on youtube (couldn't help it! Only routes and town track though), I must say Route 12 music is really great.
 

D-Pad

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isny said:
Since one of you mentioned Victini may be worth catching, I tried my hand at it. Had him paralyzed, confused, etc. and spent about an hour resetting and could never get him.

I'm guessing it's not worth the time trying until later in the game?

By the way, if you faint Victini it'll come back once you leave the room and re-enter. I've been rebattling it for EV training. It gives 3 HP EVs. :p

I'm not a bad person.
 

Wiseblade

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D-Pad said:
By the way, if you faint Victini it'll come back once you leave the room and re-enter. I've been rebattling it for EV training. It gives 3 HP EVs. :p

I'm not a bad person.
I hate the way the team plasma member says that it'll "maybe" come back if you leave the room. Makes me think that after the 1000th time I kill it, it'll get bored and leave for good. :/
 
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