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Pokémon Community Thread: Gotta Catch 'Em All!
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Dragoon En Regalia
Member
There are a wide range of different currencies here on GAF. Gold, zenny, Pokedollars™—official transactions are always made with Pokedollars™ here, but that doesn't mean all transactions here are made with the same currency, nor are they official. There's a lot of cross-over, is what I'm saying.Ahem.
Around here, transactions are made with.
Monopoly Money™ would be a derogative way to describe this whole business.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Naw dawg, I don't want no GAF Gold!
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
They're different, though! Gold is not GAF Gold™. In fact: Gold is the tried-and-true way to communicate with Anime-GAF.
I love
bellsprouts?
Professor Beef
Banned
Now where have I heard THAT before?
Buy Fire Emblem or perish
Professor Beef
Banned
By not buying Fire Emblem, I grow stronger by the day thanks to GAF's hatred.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Trade in games you don't want. And trade in Pearl while you're at it.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Pearl would not be a pearl by any other name. It's a disgrace of a Pokemon game. Platinum rims only.
ThatObviousUser
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Hot Coldman
Banned
BELLSPROUT, USE AXE KICK
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Dragoon En Regalia
Member
They should have used a Bellsprout van to advertise Gen 2, something other than a Lugia PT Cruiser at least.
Professor Beef
Banned
Fixed for accuracy, since I am absorbing your hatred.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Is that your Dream World ability, Beef? For that matter: I never saw you on my Pokedex before. Now that I do, here's a question for you—do you like Pokeballs?
On another note:
On another note:
Should we amend this part of the OP when the second |OT| comes around? It's technically out-of-date.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Sure but no one has had an issue discussing the anime in here at all.
Annnnd I'll be starting my White save soon but will anyone be able to trade me a Farfetch'd and a Lotad? Both males would be fine.
Annnnd I'll be starting my White save soon but will anyone be able to trade me a Farfetch'd and a Lotad? Both males would be fine.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
I have no issue with discussing the anime here either. This should be edited, though, because new-comers to the thread might notice the inaccuracies.
Chet Rippo
Member
It could change now.
Dr.Palutena
Member
This thread/community is kinda "grandfather claused", I dont even know what would happen once we reach OT2, technically we have the OT's for the current pokemon games already, so technically this thread is and always was for general and non-gaming pokemon related talk...
ScraftyDevil
Banned
You ever wonder how Pokémon mythology works? I mean, you have Pokémon like
who seems to have the same role in the mythology as Kyogre. Do you think that every region has its own mythology (a là Norse and Greek, par example), or that they're all connected in one massively convoluted legend?
who seems to have the same role in the mythology as Kyogre. Do you think that every region has its own mythology (a là Norse and Greek, par example), or that they're all connected in one massively convoluted legend?
ThatObviousUser
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Triple types would fix everything.
Obviously the legends are based on which Pokemon are local to which region, however I do believe that they all interact on a series-wide scale.
Obviously the legends are based on which Pokemon are local to which region, however I do believe that they all interact on a series-wide scale.
Chet Rippo
Member
Or it's mostly superstitious stories and they're just really rare Pokemon.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Sometimes, when I'm dreaming, I just excuse all of the legendary convolution as the result of scientific meddling. Because, in my mind, Pokemon were this scientific creation that originated in Japan, with every new Pokemon springing forth from genetic manipulation of Mew, a mere scientific creation. From the moment these experiments ran amuck, everything changed—the world practically got wiped over, and those humans who remained the Pokemon world we see today. The origin stories? An elaborate global conspiracy, with both the legends and the mythic locations being fabricated!
Who am I kidding. I just wish that the whole post-Hiroshima stylization in R/G/B were more elaborated upon in these games. Because I think that those games still represented a lot of mystery of scientific power, and they provided a sort-of fictionalization of the new latter-half Japan that came about post-MacArthur.
tl;dr Pokemon should be about some world-government cover-up of a global Pokemon disaster, involving super-powerful and unique Pokemon ripping apart both Western and Eastern society and resulting in a post-apocalyptic new global society that can only exist with the ability to use Pokeballs.
I can dream. Or! I could write fan-fiction, a task I find unappealing and would make for poor publicity.
Who am I kidding. I just wish that the whole post-Hiroshima stylization in R/G/B were more elaborated upon in these games. Because I think that those games still represented a lot of mystery of scientific power, and they provided a sort-of fictionalization of the new latter-half Japan that came about post-MacArthur.
tl;dr Pokemon should be about some world-government cover-up of a global Pokemon disaster, involving super-powerful and unique Pokemon ripping apart both Western and Eastern society and resulting in a post-apocalyptic new global society that can only exist with the ability to use Pokeballs.
I can dream. Or! I could write fan-fiction, a task I find unappealing and would make for poor publicity.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
I think they're just winging it, to be honest. They only really began to care for a consistent, interesting plot with B/W and B2/W2. Every other game, though, it was all about the set-pieces.
You ever wonder how Pokémon mythology works? I mean, you have Pokémon like
who seems to have the same role in the mythology as Kyogre. Do you think that every region has its own mythology (a là Norse and Greek, par example), or that they're all connected in one massively convoluted legend?
He should really be Water/Flying.
Then again, that would make him lesser of a wall.
Speaking of which, I'd like to bring up something I've never discussed with anyone.
My first reaction to the idea of Arceus in this series was that it was a rather poor decision. I guess more so because it was one of the most ridiculous ways of just taking the past stories and lore and tarnishing it.
Now it's not absolutely terrible, but I think it's a bit over the top. I haven't watched the Arceus movie yet, so I'm just stating my initial reaction so many years ago. I think Arceus has an interesting design, and I don't know a too much about it, but maybe perhaps just a silly idea.
My first reaction to the idea of Arceus in this series was that it was a rather poor decision. I guess more so because it was one of the most ridiculous ways of just taking the past stories and lore and tarnishing it.
Now it's not absolutely terrible, but I think it's a bit over the top. I haven't watched the Arceus movie yet, so I'm just stating my initial reaction so many years ago. I think Arceus has an interesting design, and I don't know a too much about it, but maybe perhaps just a silly idea.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Piggybacking on Andrex's idea of triple types, I think it'd be cool if THE legendaries had that, like Arceus, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. The amount of legendaries has gotten silly. I think it'd work out a little better if you had the ones that are almost considered like deities and then the lesser ones who are less like mythical beasts and just really rare critters.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
The real problem with it is that it's just not that interesting, I think. This kind of lore usually has the benefit of being an object of attention in the daily lives of Pokemon-world people, but it's never presented that way. Nor is the idea of a polytheistic mythology based around big shiny things that appealing in general, because then I just feel betrayed and disappointed, both in the lack of cohesion between each mythology and with the lack of a more interesting history behind the Pokemon world. Using this kind of lore as more of an afterthought is a waste in general.
I honestly think that each mythology is local to each region in particular, and that these legendaries are just super-powerful Pokemon that had a major geographical effect on their respective regions, outside of the ones confirmed to have originated under human supervision. A genuine apocalypse story, a la Little Boy and the nuclear fall-out at the end of WWII, would make so much sense for Pokemon, and it could add a general sinister element to the games that wouldn't be restricted to a one region, like in B/W with the Plasma crisis.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Yea but do you think they would really go for a story like that? Seems like while on one hand they want to mature the story, they still want to keep it family friendly. And yea I've noticed the lack of cohesion as far as legendaries goes and how it gets worse and worse with each generation, I'm sure they'll soon introduce something that is even more powerful that Arceus or Pokemon that represent an element or force that has already been represented before. Perhaps it's deliberate so new players don't have to deal with backstory?
Chet Rippo
Member
Yep they totally went away from that...
ThatObviousUser
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I mean, Gen 1 does have more references to man-made Pokemon than the other gens I think. Explicitly, Mewtwo and Porygon, and intrinsically, Ditto, Voltorb, and Electrode.
Plus the Fossil Pokemon you get in the game are technically man-made...
Plus the Fossil Pokemon you get in the game are technically man-made...
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
I think the best way to do it, if they ever would, is to drop hints and reveal new information throughout each new entry in the main series. This would ensure that the whole backstory is introduced and developed in a way that encourages both interesting bits of dialogue while keeping interest along the game progression. They don't need to make it a central plot point—keeping it as a looming set of experiences that color the world of Pokemon in a new light, though, would do a lot to please those who crave interesting story details. Mainline Pokemon should stick with the champion plot progression—what we've had from the beginning, yet was tampered with in B/W—and string along side-stories that flesh out the world itself. You'll still get the traditional experience, but those stories and episodes on the side would do a lot more for the world-building itself. Not that I wouldn't mind another game less focused on becoming champion, all that said.
Yeah: Gen 1 was heavy on those references. If you take it at face value, even, it feels like a post-MacArthur setting, a re-imagined Japan with creatures of immense power roaming the land.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Keeping it to smaller side stories would probably help. Just didn't want it to become some sort of continuity snarl where they have to smack the reset button because it became all levels of stupid. World building is something I do want them to do more of.
I guess they can keep the Champion plot but I think it'd also be cool if you could end the game any various ways and not just from beating the Champion, like winning a bunch of competitions in the Beauty contest or collecting all the Pokemon or even just stopping the bad guys. Maybe if we get a console entry, we could do all that.
What? No way. Lugia may be "guardian" or the seas, but Kyogre is the master. Lugia gets beat down by some dweeb playing with K'Nex, Kyogre's mere presence causes storms, floods and tsunamis to form. Kyogre sleeps because when it wakes, it risks ending the world.
Am I missing something? I don't recall anything in the series that even hints that humans created any Pokemon other than Mewtwo and Porygon.
Genesect is a Pokémon "enhanced" By Team Plasma scientists.
Exterminieren
Banned
Genesect existed as a Pokemon before the augmentation, though, so it doesn't quite fit in the Porygon/Mewtwo mold.
Wonder if we'll see an Original Forme Genesect at any point.
There's also the Grimer and Trubbish lines, which are human refuse brought to life. Neither were deliberate, but...
Voltorb
Ok what the hell just happened... i was going around when i encountered a Pokémon that i didn't had so i decided to catch it but when i threw my pokèball it made a "SWOOOSH" sound and it only had to tilt one time before catching the Pokémon, when this awesomeness was introduced? in 4th or 5th? and what are the possibilities for it to happen?
ArchedThunder
Banned
As did Mewtwo in the Japanese version.