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Pokémon Community Thread: Gotta Catch 'Em All!
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tiggerkiddo
Member
Who's better, Groudon or Kyogere?
Professor Beef
Banned
Depends on who comes out second.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Okay so it's more along the lines of which one do you like more and why.
ColtraineGF
Member
I like Groudon a bit more, but Kyogre is beast.
Supermanisdead
Member
I don't really like either of them. But I prefer Kyogre since he's also an X-Man.
Groudon.
1. It's red, and I prefer that over blue.
2. Much more unique design compared to Kyogre. The tail has four upside down claw blades, which is such an interesting design.
3. Kyogre is more smooth in design, but Groudon has my appeal towards it with all the groves and spikes on it. Kyogre has more of a tattoo design.
1. It's red, and I prefer that over blue.
2. Much more unique design compared to Kyogre. The tail has four upside down claw blades, which is such an interesting design.
3. Kyogre is more smooth in design, but Groudon has my appeal towards it with all the groves and spikes on it. Kyogre has more of a tattoo design.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Kyogre. Its design and markings reminds me of Native American painting of an Orca whale:
Plus, it has an amazing range of learnable moves and a better ability.
Plus, it has an amazing range of learnable moves and a better ability.
Dragoon En Regalia
Member
Groudon has the better name, but I prefer Kyogre. Better move-set.
ThatObviousUser
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Kyogre. Its design and markings reminds me of Native American painting of an Orca whale:
Plus, it has an amazing range of learnable moves and a better ability.
Your mom reminds me of an orca whale. :O
But I agree, Kyogre is pretty cool.
Exterminieren
Banned
Ah, this image is going to be useful.
Little Green Yoda
Member
That's also a good image to prove the series has come a long way since then instead of being rehashes.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
I agree Pokemon has come it's way, but that image only explains things that simple tweaks could fix.
Wow, I never knew about a lot of stuff on there. Who knew there were so many crazy glitches?
From viewing the list, I never really encountered or noticed most of those. I figured Subsitute at the time was intended to off you if you barely had HP, and I also used Fissure to take out a Blastoise during PvP.
Ghosts being immune to struggle makes sense. That Fly/Dig one sounds crazy, glad I never encountered it. Hyper Beam I actually liked that, but for a competitive environment, I see how it can be discouraging.
Sleep was improved upon in later releases which is nice.
Electivirus
Member
I love how they treat Rayquaza's arrival in Emerald like the friggin' Rapture. 20 seconds and one "BITCHES, CALM YO TITS" later, he's back to being irrelevant. xD
Chet Rippo
Member
Because of Gen 1, it took me a long time before I learned that you can get unfrozen in battle...
Same, I actually only found that out some months ago. I remember importing my Mewtwo to pokemon stadium, sweep the gym leaders and stop at an Articuno who managed to freeze me. It was quite painful watching it slowly tear me down.
...me, because i read bulbapedia too much.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Me. I feel remorse for my actions.
Chet Rippo
Member
Huh? I think you misspelled Pokemon Dash.
ThatObviousUser
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I have. Wanted to beat it because of the surfing Pikachu. But you can't transfer HM moves to Gen 5 so I finally gave up.
Did you get to the "Wheel"? That Wheel is...terrible.
I recall playing that and stopping after 5 minutes.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
That wasn't even fair. I'm pretty sure the devs live off of the tears of Custom Pass users, because that crap was broken. 103% of the time, the opponent would get my Metagross or Infernape and I'd be stuck with some crummy Shieldon.
But I persevered. I stuck it through and continued playing until I reached this motherhubbard:
So many Legendaries.
So many Legendaries.
Kyogre is in the running for single most overpowered / overcentralizing Pokemon in the game.
Exterminieren
Banned
We were blinded by promises of Munchlax, and its presence in the barren EU DS launch lineup.
It's beaten in badness only by broken-ass Hey You Pikachu.
Pokemon's quality control has got a hell of a lot better in recent years.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
I beg to differ. Pokémon Ranger: Shadows of Almia and Guardian Signs, Pokémon Trozei, and Mystery Dungeon 2 are among the best spinoffs in the series. We've only had a handful if spinoffs so far this generation, only one of which (Conquest) is standout.
I didn't care for Trozei, but I'm referring that there was a dip in quality this generation with side Pokemon games, regardless if there were decent ones to go along with it.
Pokemon Ranch
Pokemon Dash
Pokemon Battle Revolution
Pokemon Rumble
*edit*
In other words, for Pokemon, the amount were much more, and the level of how bad they were, were a lot worse compared to previous generations.
I think Almia is the best Pokemon side game of this(last) generation personally.
Fuck, there was a time when Pokemon sidegames were actually good:
Pokemon Snap
Pokemon Stadium
Pokemon Stadium 2
Pokemon Puzzle League
Pokemon Puzzle Challenge
Pokemon TCG (and 2 in Japan)
Pokemon Pinball
All these game series are seemingly dead, and in their place are a bunch of shitty Pokemon sidegames =(
Pokemon Snap
Pokemon Stadium
Pokemon Stadium 2
Pokemon Puzzle League
Pokemon Puzzle Challenge
Pokemon TCG (and 2 in Japan)
Pokemon Pinball
All these game series are seemingly dead, and in their place are a bunch of shitty Pokemon sidegames =(
I've said it before, but my favourite thing about that picture is just the way it says "Hahahahah the special stat". Because that's all that really needs to be said.
ThatObviousUser
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Yup, perfectly caps off the whole image.
tiggerkiddo
Member
I knew about some of those glitches but not all. Guess they forgot to mention that the one ghost attack is completely useless.
man i fuckin' loved gen 1
good times
Also for everything on this page: http://www.blue-reflections.net/ragecandybar/projects/pokegods/
Exterminieren
Banned
I completely disagree on this one. Ranger was improved, Mystery Dungeon was improved to the extent that it hardly seemed like the same series any more, and Rumble was a solid little diversion. Ranch was Pokemon Box with a fuckload more effort put in. Also, the Pokepark games are far better kiddy games than the likes of Hey You Pikachu or Pokemon Channel could ever hope to be.
Localised Gen V spin offs so far are basically Super Pokemon Rumble, Pokepark 2 and Conquest. One of those is solid but very repetitive, one is a well made kid's game and Conquest has a solid claim to being the best spinoff that isn't called Snap.
Maybe so, but Box is still far better as a storage tool. Compatible with all 3rd gen games, pseudo Game Boy Player for Ruby/Sapphire, more box space, ability to do mass Pokémon transfers between games, and DAT SEARCH.
But yeah, agree on Ranger/Mystery Dungeon.
Pokemon Ranch is a terrible storage method in my opinion. You have tiered caps, the interaction with the Pokemon is really lackluster, it's based on a daily monotonous cycle, and it's just not really that convenient for transferring Pokemon.
I know the original Pokemon Ranger isn't Gen IV, but it's on the DS, and with the Wii and DS we saw these games. I'm referring to a console generation, which housed at the same time Gen IV. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon didn't add that much to what was already there, it just had more elaborate story telling.
I have never played PokePark, but that game came out all the way in late 2010. There was a period in time where if you owned a Wii and wanted Pokemon, you had a lackluster experience, which is highly odd when the Wii was so successful unlike the Gamecube.
At least with the Gamecube we got Colosseum and XD which gave us a somewhat linear 3D version of Pokemon. We only really got Pokemon Ranger out of that era that was original. I'm not sure how original PokePark is as I've never played it once again, but I'll include that.
Honestly, maybe it started with Gen III on the Gamecube, but GBA had decent portable spinoffs, and I can't really say there was a single one that was terrible like Dash. When you look at the brand name of Pokemon, you usually expect there to be quality, but a major release like Battle Revolution was kinda the opposite.
Cute Dragon Here
Member
I've always wondered whether 720 + 6 + 6 + 1 slots is enough for the regular use of a Generation V game, to be honest. If I do organize things a bit, things get a bit hectic when it comes to arranging things.
Still, the amount of data could be staggering. There's a limited amount of flash storage on the game cards themselves, and the data have checksum data attached, too. Better safe than sorry, but sometimes, I've wondered what if they just went with double the save file size.
Now, if it were possible for a 3DS app to act as a storage game... We know for sure that 3DS games have full read and write access to save data for a DS game.
If there were a storage app/game, I'd treat it as a storage app first and foremost, and the game part, well, is something that is more... of an aside.
Still, the amount of data could be staggering. There's a limited amount of flash storage on the game cards themselves, and the data have checksum data attached, too. Better safe than sorry, but sometimes, I've wondered what if they just went with double the save file size.
Now, if it were possible for a 3DS app to act as a storage game... We know for sure that 3DS games have full read and write access to save data for a DS game.
If there were a storage app/game, I'd treat it as a storage app first and foremost, and the game part, well, is something that is more... of an aside.
Yeah, the original Red/Green games were a complete technical mess from a coding standpoint.
Everything in that image stands after they fixed a lot of the major bugs for the US release. (And even then, look how many things are still messed up!)
Still have to laugh since there's stuff on there I didn't even know. I'd lol hard knowing I could Counter a OHKO attack.
I still fail to see PBR as some huge drop-off in quality from the Stadium games. They're pretty much the same things: an overpriced way to play Pokemon with better graphics. Just replace Stadium's minigames with PBR's customization/online/more "battle frontier esque" modes. Oh, and you don't have to keep the piece of crap transfer pack working at all times in PBR (only reason I don't have a surfing pikachu and as such never played that minigame!)
Personally, I still feel like Colosseum and XD are the only useful entries in that whole series of games. At least those had something interesting with the RPG modes.
Personally, I still feel like Colosseum and XD are the only useful entries in that whole series of games. At least those had something interesting with the RPG modes.
tiggerkiddo
Member
Would people want another game in the vein of Pokemon Stadium/Colisseum? If so, what features would you add?
Bring back the minigames.
Also, add the storage element from Pokémon Box (did Stadium 2 do this?).