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Pokémon Conquest |OT| Gotta conquer 'em all
- Thread starter Kazerei
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I wonder how you get Ginchiyo the Shinx user. I beat her under four turns when I saw her again in a random battle but no dice. At least I have a Mareep.
Like the OP says, region free for DS, not DSi and 3DS due to the DSi enhanced features.
The review thread seems to be dead, so I'll drop the new reviews here:
CheatCodeCentral: 90
GamesRadar: 80
Digital Chumps: 76
Game Informer: 70 (the only review marked as "mixed" so far)
Overall average is from 9 reviews is 84. Game Informer's negatives include being disappointed in the lore (he wants to know how pokemon exist in another era), and they say that strategy in battle is limited to bringing a bunch of potions and the right type of pokemon rather than in-battle strategy.
Game Informer conclusion:
CheatCodeCentral: 90
GamesRadar: 80
Digital Chumps: 76
Game Informer: 70 (the only review marked as "mixed" so far)
Overall average is from 9 reviews is 84. Game Informer's negatives include being disappointed in the lore (he wants to know how pokemon exist in another era), and they say that strategy in battle is limited to bringing a bunch of potions and the right type of pokemon rather than in-battle strategy.
Game Informer conclusion:
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
To the first bold...Really? REALLY?
To the second bold...That's sort of what Pokemon is, though. It's knowing that a water type against a fire type will benefit you greatly. The strategy comes from making sure you have a balanced team and don't make any poor decisions on your moves. I DO wish that facing made a difference, though. I always try for back attacks and height advantage, even though it doesn't do anything.
Yeah, I thought it was a little funny, but I mentioned it since it's the lowest review.
Since facing and height doesn't make a difference, is there any sort of positional strategy, or is it purely a ranged versus melee attacking kind of thing and the team selection is basically where the strategy takes place?
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
Positional strategy is relatively non-existent in any form. I HAVE seen a few cases where my chance to hit has gone up depending on location, but I don't know if there were other factors in play. I'll have to test it more.
Team selection and synergy is definitely a majority of the strategy, though. I've gone 1v3 with my Onyx during training against fire types and come out just fine.
I'm a little annoyed that you can't drag the map with the stylus. It would've made the touch controls a lot more intuitive.
aw really, it doesn't? dammit, been wasting time then.
aw really, it doesn't? dammit, been wasting time then.
Facing DOES matter. Attacking from the back causes more damage than attacking from the side, which causes more damage than attacking from the front. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to set your Pokemon's facing at the end of a turn.
Height doesn't seem to matter, although if the height difference between two tiles is too large, you won't be able to move or attack across it. Pokemon with Levitate can move freely.
I disagree that positional strategy is non-existant. The battlefields are pretty small, and the Pokemon have different attack ranges. So it's important to position your Pokemon so they don't get in each other's way, and so that they don't hit each other.
Height doesn't seem to matter, although if the height difference between two tiles is too large, you won't be able to move or attack across it. Pokemon with Levitate can move freely.
I disagree that positional strategy is non-existant. The battlefields are pretty small, and the Pokemon have different attack ranges. So it's important to position your Pokemon so they don't get in each other's way, and so that they don't hit each other.
:O New information!
When you say so they don't hit each other, does that mean friendly fire is on, and some pokemon might use an AOE attack that would murder their compatriots if you didn't position them properly?
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
This is true - that's what I was alluding to, but I meant positional strategy as in facing. Truthfully, I really haven't seen a huge difference in facing bonuses. I've seen my accuracy go from 95% to 100%, and I've seen maybe 2 damage difference? I thought it was just random spread...The game doesn't suggest or give hints that facing matters.
Also, why the shit would a strategy game that gives facing bonus NOT allow you to change your facing? My guess is that facing really doesn't matter OR it's a huge design flop on their end.
The damage difference between facing front/side/back seems to be something like 5%-10%. It's not huge, but it does help.
And yeah, it's really dumb that you can't change your Pokemon's facing :\
Lucky, my copy was suppose to arrive on the 21st, but just got an email saying its been delayed till July 10-13th. Guess, I'll have to wait to conquer kingdoms- although it gives me more time to finish Devil Survivor 2 and new game plus on the game.My copy shipped from Amazon, but I only just now realized I had selected FS. And I don't have Prime.
See you guys in a week+, I guess.
Doesn't seem like it. Some join automatically as the story progresses, most join after finishing special post-game episodes or wi-fi downloadable episodes.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
How important are the time mechanics? I'm about half-way through year 2 and about to challenge the new kingdoms that opened up. But I'm worried that I'm going to miss some odd time sensitive event I spend too much time training in the future.
Got my Amazon email shipping on Prime.
Unfortunately, I know the UPS man's going to leave a note and come AFTER the weekend. I'm currently trying to psyche myself up enough to go drive out to the distribution plant in Bumblefuck, Nowhere.
Buh.
Lactose_Intolerant
Member
Hope the game gets harder because right now its insanely easy. Heard there more stuff like killing people in under like 4 turns and stuff. Just took over my 4th area and its been pretty easy so far.
Doesn't seem to be important. Basically just a way to institute turn-based progress.
There are three ways to recruit a warrior: by defeating him/her within four turns, using a supereffective move, or without taking any damage.
The game does get more challenging, sort of. It's probably more accurate to say the variety of Pokemon, warriors, and environments grows bigger, so there's more planning and thinking involved.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
The first couple of areas are easy. I can't comment on the rest of the game, but I would imagine it ramps up a little(?). Truth be told, I kind of enjoy the basic strategy elements it provides for now.
perfect free
Member
I love the soundtrack so far. Did Game Freak's usual composers do this (doesn't sound like it), or was it handled by Koei? Anyone know?
Well I found it at the Kirkwood Target in Bismarck in case anybody else is in the area looking.
XeroSauce
Member
Only use Ponigiri on Pokemon that aren't going to be doing anything for awhile, but are needed for a later battle.
The Ponigiri is cheap (0 Zenny) so it doesn't increase the energy much, you will get options for better Ponigiri later.
I'd say to expect it next week. People were complaining on the Amazon page, and even Amazon has a note saying it may take a few days to process. Presumably they didn't get enough shipped units or something even though they claim they're instock, and knew how many preorders they were getting.Delivery estimate still says tomorrow but it hasn't even shipped yet, it's been "shipping soon" for two days. I'm starting to get worried now
HiddenWings
Member
Looks like mine just shipped, hopefully it'll get here before I leave on Friday...
BassForever
Member
The game is certainly getting more challenging as it goes on, just got to the half way point where now I'm actually begun to the conflict with
Nobunaga
Hispanicguy
Member
Just finished my 11th Kingdom. Had a little trouble with that one but once I swapped pokemon and figured out how the map's gimmicks worked, I beat it. I was surprised to see the pokemon,
there. He made me rethink which pokemon to bring.
And right after I won, the next month, the enemy decided to go and conquer a Kingdom that was empty lol. They did so, but now they're at a disadvantage. They had 6 people in one Kingdom but then took 3 from there and conquered one of mine. Now they have 2 Kingdoms with 3 people each, which should be no problem with my team of 6.
The game does get a little harder but it just means you need to do a little more thinking.
Spiritomb
And right after I won, the next month, the enemy decided to go and conquer a Kingdom that was empty lol. They did so, but now they're at a disadvantage. They had 6 people in one Kingdom but then took 3 from there and conquered one of mine. Now they have 2 Kingdoms with 3 people each, which should be no problem with my team of 6.
The game does get a little harder but it just means you need to do a little more thinking.
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
I really like that you can delegate work in various kingdoms. Makes training 20+ warlords so much easier haha.
robotzombie
Member
Can you get ginchiyo and muneshige on your team the first time you fight them?
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
If that's a kingdom warlord, then I don't think so. Those guys are usually special conditions that you fulfill later.
To get a kingdom warlord, you have to defeat them with the normal conditions, but the finishing blow has to come from a non-generic warrior such as the former leader of a kingdom. They reappear in the field after you fight them the first time (there will be a gold person icon), so don't worry about missing them.
Hours Left
Member
Got my copy today. Doesn't seem like too many copies of this were shipped.
vagabondarts
Member
Been thinking about the game all week. Probably going to track a copy down tomorrow.
And it's still the top selling game on Amazon as far as I can tell.
goldlion054
Member
Ahhhh, so it is an option. Only question I really had about the game. And how do you capture Pokemon??????
Otherwise, enjoying it in the small bits and pieces I have taken it in. 3 Kingdoms captured so far