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Pokémon Go |OT 3| "No Officer, I'm a Passenger"
- Thread starter spyroflame0487
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This is the problem.
It's a portal. So everyone who visits the portal who are on the same team receives items as a reward.
Corronchilejano
Member
Gyms should have a mechanic like that. Getting stuff from gyms (and better ones if the gym is high level) would at least make you happy to see a friendly gym.
The gym changes just seem like they are using a battle axe to kill a house fly.
It seems like a more elegant solution to gym stagnation would just be to have stagnant gyms start to lose prestige everyday....make the people on the gym maintain them, or lose their slots over time. Stagnant gyms then become easier targets for opposing teams.
Or you could just have gyms reset after 10 days or something. Just shake things up.
I can't help but wonder if these changes are financially motivated. Maybe they see a large portion of their player base just easily collecting 100 Pokegold per day, and bypassing the microtransactions intended to fund the game. So the solution was to make it difficult to actually hold down 10 gyms.
It seems like a more elegant solution to gym stagnation would just be to have stagnant gyms start to lose prestige everyday....make the people on the gym maintain them, or lose their slots over time. Stagnant gyms then become easier targets for opposing teams.
Or you could just have gyms reset after 10 days or something. Just shake things up.
I can't help but wonder if these changes are financially motivated. Maybe they see a large portion of their player base just easily collecting 100 Pokegold per day, and bypassing the microtransactions intended to fund the game. So the solution was to make it difficult to actually hold down 10 gyms.
dreamlongdead
Member
The Ingress system sounds like a good one for the gyms in Pokemon Go.
I think your point on stagnation is still wrong, though. I don't want to go back to the old Prestige system, even though I performed decent in the meta-game. Gyms are close enough together that a high level player can still get 30 to 40 Coins during a session.
I understand some dominant players being upset about having to buy more Coins to make progress, but I think the landscape will overall be better in a lot of areas.
That is probably the hidden motivating factor.
Corronchilejano
Member
You know what would really make people happy? Training friendly gyms giving you candy for the pokemon that you use to train. At least one.
I would LOVE that. Would really fit in the whole "training" aspect.
spyroflame0487
Member
Would be cool if the gym for your team either healed your Pokemon or perhaps had rarer Pokemon spawn near them or something similar.
Just items would make it a little too close to a Stop...although I guess that could work ok too.
Theoretically, I'd be great to be able to tap on each of the members of your team at your gym and get an item, so a max of 10.
HammerOfThor
Member
Oh nice! Just for 2km or all? Like, can I actually get a Porygon now?
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
I've actually gotten two before they touched anything. I'd easily give one up for a fucking Seel or Grimer.
Yeah seems like they doubled stop rewards as well.
I'm fine with reduced gym stagnation. Niantic obviously wants new player to be able to have a chance at gym and that won't be possible if building up gym is too easy and spots are taken by Level 30+ players. This way, every gym is volatile and everyone has a chance to claim 1 coin/day.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
ahh if guess i see the bigger picture now. All a ploy to make it harder to get Poke Coins thus ensuring people will have a higher chance of wanting to purchase coins.
but it isn't a war with three teams in my area.
it's blue team.
in every gym.
the only time it changes is when a blue team member uses an alt acount to hit the gym once to get their pokemon in.
otherwise it is always the same.
level 10 blue gym...
everywhere.
after the update the nearby gyms are now level 6 8 and 10 blue.
I am likely going to borrow my friends account and go murder the water tower. it was the first one to raise up to blue 10 and stay there back in late july. it is time it finally fell.
yes I am level 25, have spent $120 on the game, and continue to play on a daily basis, and while I like collecting each day with no effort I am loving the idea of seeing real change again.
though I will say the reduction to build up was likely a bit to much, but I am perfectly fine with it being horrible to build up for two weeks so everything dies, and then adjust it in two weeks to more like 25% off from what we had before this update instead of 50%
training gyms fucking sucks now.
Takes too long to pick team (seriously we can't just have a simple "use previous team" button?) finding six guys half CP of the defenders with type advantage is a nightmare. You can't even see who is already in your team, resulting in accidentally swapping the wrong guy, resulting in NO PRESTIGE FOR YOU! when you accidentally leave a high CP mon on the team.
Crap prestige gain. 2x the effort of an already tedious process? uhhh no thanks
on top of GPS errors and generally buggy shit I am really finding the motivation to get gyms lacking now. I've pretty much hatched everything that can be hatched. I'm pretty close to 30 so no need for lucky eggs. (also one of the most tedious and dumb things...)
I can understand the poketsop spinning speed limit, its probably for the best but screws over people on public transportation.
But gyms are fucked now. No reason to power up guys anymore, no reason to coordinate IRL team members to place strategic mons in gyms... going to be smash and grab time again.
Takes too long to pick team (seriously we can't just have a simple "use previous team" button?) finding six guys half CP of the defenders with type advantage is a nightmare. You can't even see who is already in your team, resulting in accidentally swapping the wrong guy, resulting in NO PRESTIGE FOR YOU! when you accidentally leave a high CP mon on the team.
Crap prestige gain. 2x the effort of an already tedious process? uhhh no thanks
on top of GPS errors and generally buggy shit I am really finding the motivation to get gyms lacking now. I've pretty much hatched everything that can be hatched. I'm pretty close to 30 so no need for lucky eggs. (also one of the most tedious and dumb things...)
I can understand the poketsop spinning speed limit, its probably for the best but screws over people on public transportation.
But gyms are fucked now. No reason to power up guys anymore, no reason to coordinate IRL team members to place strategic mons in gyms... going to be smash and grab time again.
HammerOfThor
Member
I've actually gotten two before they touched anything. I'd easily give one up for a fucking Seel or Grimer.
Ha I'd give both of those for one
Complistic
Member
So for anyone on Android looking for a tracker replacement I can not recommend Venn tracker enough. I just spent a couple hours this afternoon mapping spawn points and triangulating Pokemon. I honestly like this system more than the footprints.
LucidMomentum
Member
Thanks for the recommendation! I'll be sure to map my park when I go out tomorrow night.
Orbis Tabula
Member
So, my last few Pokestops have given way more items, with the last one giving like 11 Pokeballs. If this keeps up, I'd be thrilled.
Ah, hey. Look at that.
http://pokemongolive.com/en/post/daily-bonus-bonus/
edit - Usually a consistent 5-6 Pokemon in my apartment complex. Its been a solid 9 for the past few hours. You better believe I'll take advantage of this after I finish my exam on Thursday. =p
How the apartment complex looks right now.
http://pokemongolive.com/en/post/daily-bonus-bonus/
edit - Usually a consistent 5-6 Pokemon in my apartment complex. Its been a solid 9 for the past few hours. You better believe I'll take advantage of this after I finish my exam on Thursday. =p
How the apartment complex looks right now.
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Icyflamez96
Member
Aww so the item increase is only temporary.
Complistic
Member
They need to keep the increased spawn. I was having so much fun hunting them down today.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Meanwhile I continue to be getting the same shit I've been seeing since launch, with LESS general diversity and near non-existant noteworthy spawns.
The fuck?
The fuck?
The_Inquisitor
Member
Yeah my local mall spawn rate felt like 4x tonight. Holy crap.
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
So... Every time I've left the app open with my phone just sitting next to me, Pokémon have stopped spawning or appearing on my nearby/sightings until I mess around with it a bit, or even restart... I sincerely hope this:
isn't now basically a thing...
isn't now basically a thing...
The gym system is now totally fucked.
I don't understand the long-term purpose of playing this "game" if the teams are worthless.
Why are we trying to take over gyms? Why are we trying to collect coins? Why are we trying to hatch eggs and catch Pokemon and evolve and power them up?
...if not to try and be the ultimate Gym Leader? And to help your team dominate your area?
What is the fucking point??
I've completely lost a bunch of friends because of this change. Not so much "lost" them, but we've all lost the motivation to hang out two or three times a week to raid gyms... our group chat has died.
:,(
I don't understand the long-term purpose of playing this "game" if the teams are worthless.
Why are we trying to take over gyms? Why are we trying to collect coins? Why are we trying to hatch eggs and catch Pokemon and evolve and power them up?
...if not to try and be the ultimate Gym Leader? And to help your team dominate your area?
What is the fucking point??
I've completely lost a bunch of friends because of this change. Not so much "lost" them, but we've all lost the motivation to hang out two or three times a week to raid gyms... our group chat has died.
:,(
Benzychenz
Member
The Pokemon variety right now is amazing.
Seeing stuff like Geodude, Machop and Charmander which were near nonexistent before, and after having 9 Pikachu since launch just caught 3 in 30 minutes (at 49 candy now so just waiting for one more to pop up!).
Now I just need them to bump up Grimer, Omanyte and Kabuto spawns...
Seeing stuff like Geodude, Machop and Charmander which were near nonexistent before, and after having 9 Pikachu since launch just caught 3 in 30 minutes (at 49 candy now so just waiting for one more to pop up!).
Now I just need them to bump up Grimer, Omanyte and Kabuto spawns...
It's hard to imagine how these changes will pan out because everyone's experience with the game tends to differ. Plenty of people here claim it's a daily fight to hold down gyms, whereas I've been able to hold 10+ gyms for weeks at a time. There's a popular post on Silph Road Reddit by a Japanese user who claims that his whole neighborhood was turned upside down within hours of the update going live. At the same time, I only lost 1 gym slot today and it was very obviously sniped by one of my fellow Valor team members who used a friend or alt account to drop my gym down to 9, then raised it up to 10 again to drop in his pokemon.
Cucurbitacée
Member
Hey, with the new update the game didn't work on my (android) phone. I got a message saying "unable to extract II2C data", or something like that.
I uninstalled it, but if I try to get it from the Playstore I get a 403 error.
I can install other software from the Playstore without problems.
Does anyone else have this issue?
I uninstalled it, but if I try to get it from the Playstore I get a 403 error.
I can install other software from the Playstore without problems.
Does anyone else have this issue?
Cucurbitacée
Member
No.
Edit: After trying for the 50th time, the download started... Let's see how this goes.
Edit 2: And it's working now. Phew! Let's see what the new update is like...
WhiteRabbitEXE
Member
Meanwhile I still am at like 50 Bellsprout candy... That's actually a good example of how apparently my area got fucked while everyone is talking about increased variety in spawns - Bellsprout were briefly semi-common in my neighborhood, before the Halloween event and the spawn changes that occurred after it ended. That's how I got all of my Bellsprout candy. Now I've seen literally 1 (and I couldn't find it).
Anyone have any iOS suggestions?
SirBukkake
Member
I've been using Go Tracker - Trilateration by Martin M. Reed
https://appsto.re/us/jGGleb.i
What's cool is that it's a Notification Center widget; no need to leave the app in order to triangulate 'mons.
Bedameister
Member
This was the bus stop at university this morning. Yesterday evening it looked similar. What is going on here lol
This was the bus stop at university this morning. Yesterday evening it looked similar. What is going on here lol
That is one big audience for the Mr. Mime show!
nicoga3000
Saint Nic
This new update has made it possible for me to enjoy Pokemon Go in my town! Of course, no pokestops is still an issue, but the whole explosive spawn thing is AMAZING fun.
Okay. After a night's pondering, I think I found a strategy.
Since stops now give double items, I've been stocking on potions since yesterday. As I needed to get rid of them, rather than find fellow gyms and train them, I diverted all my efforts to Valor gyms since they're the dominant team in my immediate area. There are about 7-8 lvl. 10 Valor gyms and I already took two of them down to lvl. 1 before my battery died. My reasoning for not clearing and claiming them is 1) I can already claim the maximum daily bonus and 2) Valor won't antagonize me and take down my lvl. 10 gyms since they don't know who did it. With some luck, Mystic will beat the remaining Pokemon, claim it, which will in turn spark action from Valor to take back their gyms again. Hopefully it will go back and forth for a while.
Since stops now give double items, I've been stocking on potions since yesterday. As I needed to get rid of them, rather than find fellow gyms and train them, I diverted all my efforts to Valor gyms since they're the dominant team in my immediate area. There are about 7-8 lvl. 10 Valor gyms and I already took two of them down to lvl. 1 before my battery died. My reasoning for not clearing and claiming them is 1) I can already claim the maximum daily bonus and 2) Valor won't antagonize me and take down my lvl. 10 gyms since they don't know who did it. With some luck, Mystic will beat the remaining Pokemon, claim it, which will in turn spark action from Valor to take back their gyms again. Hopefully it will go back and forth for a while.
theechrisfox
Member
So, Pokestops can't be hit in motion anymore? That makes it very unfun for me to lose the Pokestops I pass by on the daily commute.
This was the bus stop at university this morning. Yesterday evening it looked similar. What is going on here lol
This is what I have now at work as well. I have at least 10 mons (mostly trash) spawning all the time! I'll post a screen when I get home.