Pokémon Go |OT| As in "Go Outside"

MajorMane said:
To be fair, 5/10 is perfectly average. Which honestly, this game is. Once they fix the server and bug issues and add in some more content, it will get better.

What makes it a great game now is not the game itself but the phenomenon it has caused and the social interactions it enables.
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I think what it does for getting people moving in the real world is commendable, and I've been hoping, wishing, that games would move toward this direction for years. There have been other examples of this but nothing has really hit hard enough or stuck long enough to be interesting. PoGo finally feels like a keystone. It's got a lot of issues but Sterling's "barely a game" is not even a remotely applicable criticism. There are rules, mechanics to play with, opponents to challenge, goals to complete. Of course it's a game.

It still deserves criticism for how janky it all feels, but it's deluded to accuse it of not having a solid foundation to build on.
 
Man, it definitely gets harder to catch Pokemon starting around level 11. Ran out of pokeballs for the first time. A few levels ago, I was dumping them 20-30 at a time to make room for other stuff...
 
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Vire said:
The fact that the app needs to be open to record distance is ridiculous.

Really hurts the game.
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If you think about the GO Watch that you'll be able to buy and their long term goals, it makes perfect sense. It sucks, but I understand they need limitations to stay afloat.
 
BSsBrolly said:
Man, it definitely gets harder to catch Pokemon starting around level 11. Ran out of poke ally's for the first time. A few levels ago, I was dumping them 20-30 at a time to make room for other stuff...
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I ran in to the exact same thing. It gets better once you hit lvl. 12, where you unlock great balls.
 
lt519 said:
This is why the reviews are so interesting right now:



It's like they can't admit that they are having fun. So I guess if you evaluate scores based on "fun" or a sum of it's individual technical parts you'd end up at a 10 or a 5.
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no. the app itself needs work. but the social interactions it enables are great. i think a review of the app being a 5 is fair.
 
Tecnniqe said:
P:GO is barely consisting of any mechanics and while addicting those mechanics are heavily favored to people living or working in big cities etc.....


Its mediocre, nothing more.
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Yeah, completely agreed. I think the reason I'm having so much fun is tied to the potential I can see for this game, and the concept as a whole, rather than the game specifically in its current state.

Battle system is garbage.
Nearby feature is atrocious.
Rural areas are screwed.
Servers are barely holding together.
Pedometer only works with both app and screen active.

^ Dire problems that need addressing if this game will last.
 
Vire said:
The fact that the app needs to be open to record distance is ridiculous.

Really hurts the game.
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Anything else would make hatching eggs completely trivial. It's meant so you actually go outside to play the game, not just farm eggs while you're commuting.
 
Diablohead said:
Watching the jim stealing video about him catching a pidgey and I had no idea you could side swipe in a gym battle to make your pokemon move! does that evade attacks?
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If timed correctly, yes it enables a dodge.

Red said:
I think what it does for getting people moving in the real world is commendable, and I've been hoping, wishing, that games would move toward this direction for years. There have been other examples of this but nothing has really hit hard enough or stuck long enough to be interesting. PoGo finally feels like a keystone. It's got a lot of issues but Sterling's "barely a game" is not even a remotely applicable criticism. There are rules, mechanics to play with, opponents to challenge, goals to complete. Of course it's a game.

It still deserves criticism for how janky it all feels, but it's deluded to accuse it of not having a solid foundation to build on.
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I should note I didn't read/watch his review, but looked at the score alone. (Which, not very fair.) I'll stick by that the game can be a 5/10 and still have a great foundation to build up on. I'll agree with you that it's not really applicable to say it's "barely a game", but the work needs to be put forth for it to be better.

MattyG said:
My friend got a Lapras from one last night, so hopefully they all have Pokémon like that in them.
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They usually have good Pokemon! Eevee or Onix probably being the worst to get.
 
Darkstorne said:
Yeah, completely agreed. I think the reason I'm having so much fun is tied to the potential I can see for this game, and the concept as a whole, rather than the game specifically in its current state.

Battle system is garbage.
Nearby feature is atrocious.
Rural areas are screwed.
Servers are barely holding together.
Pedometer only works with both app and screen active.

^ Dire problems that need addressing if this game will last.
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I think the tap-battle system would be fine with more varied animations and better feedback for when attacks should be initiated and when you should dodge. And the 1hp glitch needs fixed desperately.
 
If you want to review a game based on "what it is" instead of "what it does" then sure, Pokémon GO is mediocre. Otherwise it's a solid 10.
 
Oh my good god I need to start seeing more than rats and pidgeons.

Is there some kind of bizarre spawn circles around areas or something? I honestly dont get any change within something like 2 miles.

Yesterday I walked 5k from my part of london to another and saw maybe 3-5 new shadows at the very end of that walk
 
sorta feels like the least reviewable game of all time though I did enjoy The Verge's review (which doesn't use a score).
Pokémon Go is a paradox, a bland and repetitive game that nonetheless delivers the series' tacit fantasy better than any entry in its 20-year history.
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If people are going to review it with their traditional system and scales I guess I'd prefer they give it bad ratings. Looking at a review for it with a 7/10 or an 8/10 or a 10/10, even a 5/10 purporting to denote it as average, and comparing it to games from the same review organization that received those same ratings, they really kind of both lose meaning. A poor score at least kind of reflects the truth that "look, if you want to try and stack it up against these other games, it just doesn't." The game also deserves to lose points in the traditional sense for the frustrating server and software issues still being worked out.

But it's a bit hard for a by-the-numbers traditional game review to not completely miss the point of the thing, which to their credit a lot of them are pointing out within.

I mean, I now belong to three Facebook groups, two for my metro area which have over 1000 and ~1500 people in them, and one for my local 'hood's Mystic players with a little over 50. I have 8 new Facebook friends. My nephew was out of the house by a lake catching Venonats when I got back from the airport with my sister yesterday, and she goes "I've been begging him to just go outside for weeks." People are setting up giant events all over the world. All of this happened organically and within days.

It's silly to think or argue that it doesn't have flaws or need investment and work to have any kind of longitudinal success. But the things it gets right, it gets right- and those things set it apart frankly from any other game that has ever existed.
 
Gonna head out for a walk at the park; servers please be with me.

I wanna use this Jolteon at gyms finally. Still need some Eevees to power him up though.
 
Hoo-doo said:
Anything else would make hatching eggs completely trivial. It's meant so you actually go outside to play the game, not just farm eggs while you're commuting.
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GPS functionality could still work the same way without having the screen on. Could still calculate whether someone is driving or waking the same without needing the phone in their hand.
 
I'm getting more bummed every day they fucked up rural and suburb areas that much.

It's no fun seeing all you guys sitting in front of thousand lures on Stops and I'm here all alone, battling some turkish kids in one arena.
 
Anarion07 said:
I think Eevee is a great get for the Candy you get
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This is very true. For me, however, I'm in no shortage of Eevees to hit the 25 candy marker for evolution when I want.

Madridista said:
Should I keep multiple Eevee's? Will they evolve into the different kinds?
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The evolution does seem random. So you could evolve 10 Eevees and get 10 Flareon... or evolve 3 and get all 3 different Pokemon. I usually keep a couple of higher level CP of each Pokemon just in case.

Pau said:
I wanna use this Jolteon at gyms finally. Still need some Eevees to power him up though.
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I'm so disappointed at how weak Jolteon seems. Hopefully you have better luck.
 
deoee said:
I'm getting more bummed every day they fucked up rural and suburb areas that much.

It's no fun seeing all you guys sitting in front of thousand lures on Stops and I'm here all alone, battling some turkish kids in one arena.
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I've made my peace with it. I'm getting one new Pokémon every day so far and I'm still having fun.
 
deoee said:
I'm getting more bummed every day they fucked up rural and suburb areas that much.

It's no fun seeing all you guys sitting in front of thousand lures on Stops and I'm here all alone, battling some turkish kids in one arena.
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Yeah it sucks, shame because it would be perfect to have the rarer ones in non populated areas.
 
Anarion07 said:
Why is it atrocious?
So far I almost got every pokemon I saw and wanted.
If you keep it open you can perfectly track if you're getting closer or further away (not talking about the prints)
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Only times I haven't really are when it fails to update and they disappear or when I'm on a set path for my commute and can't really alter it much. (The latter is so frustrating but it's not the game's fault I have to get to class or meetings.)
 
ahoyhoy said:
GPS functionality could still work the same way without having the screen on. Could still calculate whether someone is driving or waking the same without needing the phone in their hand.
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Of course they could, they could do that with their eyes closed.

But they want to you walk while playing the game. That's the point. That's what makes you engage with the game and makes egg hatching less trivial.
 
Pau said:
Only times I haven't really are when it fails to update and they disappear or when I'm on a set path for my commute and can't really alter it much. (The latter is so frustrating but it's not the game's fault I have to get to class or meetings.)
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Once you know how to use the Nearby feature (and when to recognize that a Pokemon has glitched out on it for whatever reason), it's really good actually.

I've become a master at closing and restarting this app. It's a dangerous business, but dammit, I will not have that 3-paw Dratini mocking me all night.
 
MajorMane said:
Once you know how to use the Nearby feature (and when to recognize that a Pokemon has glitched out on it for whatever reason), it's really good actually.

I've become a master at closing and restarting this app. It's a dangerous business, but dammit, I will not have that 3-paw Dratini mocking me all night.
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Every restart costs dearly. Feels like 1% battery each time
 
just downloaded the app, how can i tell if i approach a nearby Pokemon?
lots of users said the footprints arent a good way to measure in which direction you should go
 
Hoo-doo said:
Anything else would make hatching eggs completely trivial. It's meant so you actually go outside to play the game, not just farm eggs while you're commuting.
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They could still have the speed limiter, ya know? As someone who lives in a place with just one pokestop in a big radius, having totouch the screen whiile I go on a walk to hatch some eggs is fucking ridiculous. It's not playing the game at all, it's touching the screen to keep it from turning off. Makes no sense whatsoever.
 
Damn, I just used about 35 balls on a red beedrill (CP???)... bastard ran away after breaking free a few times. I have two stops in my desk's vicinity and there are lures on both so I didn't feel too bad to just keep throwing, but I thought for sure after dropping a fruit and then getting an excellent throw on the next toss that I'd get him.
 
MajorMane said:
I'm so disappointed at how weak Jolteon seems. Hopefully you have better luck.
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What makes you say that? Low HP? Low attack power? :(

Mine has Thundershock and Discharge. Not sure if that's the best combo but seems to be useful for all the Pidgeots and Vaporeons around.
 
Madridista said:
This game is battling it out with Overwatch as my GOTY currently. It's so much fun.
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It is mine with a bullet.

As much as I am loving Overwatch, am sure I'll enjoy Doom, and am omega-level hyped for No Man's Sky, from all of them I either get or expect very high-quality traditional gaming experiences, where the enjoyment is derived from things I've expected from videogames for years, decades, really.

This came out of nowhere and it's undeniable that I've never experienced anything like it. To say it isn't responsible for the most fun I've had this year would be kidding myself. Even if the servers go offline tomorrow and it is all halted forever, I've made some of the most ridiculous and coolest gaming memories of my life in the last week.

oti xero said:
If you want to review a game based on "what it is" instead of "what it does" then sure, Pokémon GO is mediocre. Otherwise it's a solid 10.
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That's a good way of putting it.
 
Honestly, the game would probably review much better if you didn't have to keep restarting the damn thing because of it freezing.
 
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