I don't need anything in return, just send me whatever you have
Ok, I was breeding some Flabebes when I left the game, but I need a minute to update it seems. You good on time?
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Ok, I was breeding some Flabebes when I left the game, but I need a minute to update it seems. You good on time?
Sure, just send me a trade request when you're ready
Exploiting things is still cheating. It may be possible, but it's exploiting something.
RNG abuse requires external software to find seeds in order to do it, too.
They aren't as bad as editing the savefile, but there is no doubt that they are cheating.
I provide tools to help, but aside from the IV Calculator, these things are available in guides too. It doesn't help people exploit glitches/holes in the game to achieve things.
too much green and blue
No not at all. I was planing on going all green, but then I found a shiny Shroomish so I left that plan. But I'm still trying to go for a all green ending when I reach the league since the Breloom will show as green on the certificate.
I never read any guides so I did not know that.
Not sure if it counts as RNG but how do you stand on the time travel breeding method? That one you can do for sure without any externals.
I didn't really take into account how strong they are in the games with mine, just chose my favourites of each type. You can use any criteria you like, though.
Going to bed now as I need to wake up to play a children's card game tomorrow. Just before I do:
I said I enjoyed that it was something you could crowdsource (facilitated by cloning like we used to do in RBY) and was bringing people together. I enjoy the different ways Pokémon allows people to interact. To me that's the core Pokémon experience. Trading to finish your collection, battling, secret base hunting, multi battle against the AI (RIP Battle Factory), whatever. I love the different ways Pokémon allows people to play together. This was a new one.
Of course my Pokémon in Gen 5 were RNG'd. I already said they were. I said Pokémon XY because that's the last team I built in-game and the current game used for tournaments. I didn't find the RNG method in XY to save enough time to be worth it either.
No I didn't get a Cresselia yet but if I end up using it for next year, I likely will unless I was a specific one that nobody has in which case I'd soft reset for it. I don't understand where people are catching up here. If they want a Cresselia they can soft reset too like these people have. You'll eventually get one. I don't have a Power Save. I don't understand why people think they need one to keep up?
You are making up a definition. I already quoted you the rulebook. That is the dictionary definition as far as a tournament is concerned. If you have your own dictionary that you wrote that's cool. Nobody else is going to know it. You don't seem to understand what is and isn't enforceable either I already explained that what is enforceable is different from what is written there. I sort of need to know the differences as a tournament organizer and judge. If it is unclear I can help in the morning.
I said I enjoyed that it was something you could crowdsource (facilitated by cloning like we used to do in RBY) and was bringing people together. I enjoy the different ways Pokémon allows people to interact. To me that's the core Pokémon experience. Trading to finish your collection, battling, secret base hunting, multi battle against the AI (RIP Battle Factory), whatever. I love the different ways Pokémon allows people to play together. This was a new one.
Of course my Pokémon in Gen 5 were RNG'd. I already said they were. I said Pokémon XY because that's the last team I built in-game and the current game used for tournaments. I didn't find the RNG method in XY to save enough time to be worth it either.
No I didn't get a Cresselia yet but if I end up using it for next year, I likely will unless I was a specific one that nobody has in which case I'd soft reset for it. I don't understand where people are catching up here. If they want a Cresselia they can soft reset too like these people have. You'll eventually get one. I don't have a Power Save. I don't understand why people think they need one to keep up?
You are making up a definition. I already quoted you the rulebook. That is the dictionary definition as far as a tournament is concerned. If you have your own dictionary that you wrote that's cool. Nobody else is going to know it. You don't seem to understand what is and isn't enforceable either I already explained that what is enforceable is different from what is written there. I sort of need to know the differences as a tournament organizer and judge. If it is unclear I can help in the morning.
Matt Attack
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Muku
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Where are they? Saw you ask and was like "Good, cuz I dunno where they are." Then you edit. xD
Edit: Okay, I feel a bit lost. When the hell did Gyarados get to be Dark type? I knew it could learn Bite, but didn't it used to be Water/Flying?
Yeah Stella! Gastrodon is a great example for me of a Pokémon I didn't care about that I have a huge soft spot for now I think Sejun Park and Pachirisu will probably go down as the one that takes the cake for that example though. He must love the thing now.
I think Sejun Park and Pachirisu will probably go down as the one that takes the cake for that example though. He must love the thing now.
If there is a way to export what you're missing or your collection in some way -- or if you have that in a doc, PM me and I'll see if I have old stuff I have you need that aren't useful to me anymore.TCGO is pretty horribly designed. It's like flash crap on my iPad. So ugly, loads like ass, craps out on me a lot, and indeed can be confusing as hell. Like the gems, which you just cleared up for me, LOL. I'd rather just get physical stuff if paying same price.
Thing with TCGO trading is packs and all you buy with the in-game currency you earn, says you can't trade any of those. Which is okay with me ultimately, because I'm trying to build up my digital collection. But I don't get why even then I can't trade them. I put time into building up my in-game currency since I long maxed out the offline stupid NPC stuff to get coins.
Did they swap over who handles it? Because it's pretty awful. I figure you can make decks and battle friends, but from what I gathered you could only use decks with random strangers online. If not... I might have to look into it further. I've been not putting a deck together because I want to do one based around my fav Eeveelution. But haven't gotten lucky out of the two packs he can come out of. ><
Would have been great before yen dropped through floor, LOL.
I'm just going to share my views on the IVs matter.
Yes, RNG/cloning/etc could be considered cheating in a sense. However, I believe that they're actually fair in a tournament setting - without them, the person with the best Pokémon is the person with the best luck and/or most time to spend doing pointless tasks. RNG and cloning equalised that playing field, and made the competitive game what it should be - a completely fair battle between two trainers, where pre-battle luck/time don't factor into it.
I think that one of the issues here is that Joe doesn't believe the same thing (that each player's Pokémon should be at their maximum potential to guarantee a fair game) - however, most competitive players would disagree with him on that.
I do like IVs as an in-game thing, so I'm actually (mostly) fine with the way it is now. IVs still exist, but the breeding system lets you max out your Pokémon for competitive play. I would like there to be a way to guarantee perfect IVs on legendary Pokémon, however (three perfects each time is a good start).
Is RNG still cheating if you do the research/calculations yourself, without using any third-party programs? Is just knowing the game internals, and using that knowledge, cheating?
Yes, RNG/cloning/etc could be considered cheating in a sense. However, I believe that they're actually fair in a tournament setting - without them, the person with the best Pokémon is the person with the best luck and/or most time to spend doing pointless tasks. RNG and cloning equalised that playing field, and made the competitive game what it should be - a completely fair battle between two trainers, where pre-battle luck/time don't factor into it.
I think that one of the issues here is that Joe doesn't believe the same thing (that each player's Pokémon should be at their maximum potential to guarantee a fair game) - however, most competitive players would disagree with him on that.
I do like IVs as an in-game thing, so I'm actually (mostly) fine with the way it is now. IVs still exist, but the breeding system lets you max out your Pokémon for competitive play. I would like there to be a way to guarantee perfect IVs on legendary Pokémon, however (three perfects each time is a good start).
Is RNG still cheating if you do the research/calculations yourself, without using any third-party programs? Is just knowing the game internals, and using that knowledge, cheating?
Only his mega is Water/Dark
Muku
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Yeah Stella! Gastrodon is a great example for me of a Pokémon I didn't care about that I have a huge soft spot for now
If there is a way to export what you're missing or your collection in some way -- or if you have that in a doc, PM me and I'll see if I have old stuff I have you need that aren't useful to me anymore.
Is there a way to do it in browser? If not would have to be manually I guess. I only got in recently when it came to iPad really. But you know I should take a digital count of my stuff. I do it with my physical collection.
Edit: Ah, okay thank you MicH. Looking on Serebii under specific types and saw under Dark it was listed. Guess it was pulling the Mega info off the page instead.
Edit 2: Thank you Macka! Used to have that bookmarked.. swapped browsers recently, guess that site didn't get moved over.
pokemondb.net/sprites/
Just checked how to get all the legendaries, apparently Cresselia is super rare.
I found it on my 3rd day but it was when I thought legendaries's mirage spot only appeared every 8 hours when you connect to internet to update mirage islands/secret bases (Yes, that was stupid from me).
And I'm serious.
Everytime I connected to internet and got the mirage spot update message, I used roar and always found a legendary, then wait the next day to repeat the process and it never failed. Guess I was also lucky to meet the requirement for those too.
Welp.
I found it on my 3rd day but it was when I thought legendaries's mirage spot only appeared every 8 hours when you connect to internet to update mirage islands/secret bases (Yes, that was stupid from me).
And I'm serious.
Everytime I connected to internet and got the mirage spot update message, I used roar and always found a legendary, then wait the next day to repeat the process and it never failed. Guess I was also lucky to meet the requirement for those too.
Welp.
I'm getting mine from here http://pldh.net/
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
This is what I do when I'm bored.
Blue Ninja
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How can you get your hands on a shiny Xerneas, Yveltal and Zygarde? I figured they were shiny locked in XY and saw someone with all three in a secret base. Nintendo says they can be caught in ORAS, but I have no idea if it's true or not.
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Nah, they hacked them in XY and are shiny locked; can't be caught in ORAS.
You made it much prettier, HawthorneKitty
Milotic/Talonflame/Aggron/Zigzagoon/Umbreon/Scizor <3 Good choices. What is that legend though? I see Charmander lol.
Gligar/Donphan/Hitmontop/Crobat/Gengar/Krookodile/Lugia are high up in my rankings too.
Milotic/Talonflame/Aggron/Zigzagoon/Umbreon/Scizor <3 Good choices. What is that legend though? I see Charmander lol.
No worries
Gligar/Donphan/Hitmontop/Crobat/Gengar/Krookodile/Lugia are high up in my rankings too.
You made it much prettier, HawthorneKitty
Milotic/Talonflame/Aggron/Zigzagoon/Umbreon/Scizor <3 Good choices. What is that legend though? I see Charmander lol.
No worries
Gligar/Donphan/Hitmontop/Crobat/Gengar/Krookodile/Lugia are high up in my rankings too.
Mew
It respawns atop Sky Pillar the next time you defeat the Elite 4.
Not much. No new areas, but there are a bunch of legendaries you can catch in mirage spots that can only be accessed by Soaring on Lati@s. Then there's the Battle Resort which has the Battle Maison (which is a direct cut & paste from X&Y). That's it.
WrenchNinja
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Nah, there's 721 of these, having to choose the favourite of each type sounds difficultWould you believe me if I told you this took over 2 hours to complete?
Muku
Member
This took me a while. Few of them it's kind of a tie for multiple things. Like the Mega there are a few I really dig (and Electabuzz... Electabuzz, Magmar, and Scyther were my original series fav Pokemon with Pikachu). Electric I went with my basic default, but I also dig Ampharos. My Grass addition is a recent love for that turtle with a tree on his back because he looks like a badass.
After putting it together, I realized how many original Pokemon there were...
Yeah I would because it took me about that long too
HypnoDarkrai
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So much Cradily love. <3
Gengar, Umbreon, Gardevoir, and Lugia are really popular. :O
Haven't bred any because of no dusk ball. :{
Gengar, Umbreon, Gardevoir, and Lugia are really popular. :O
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Yeah I also got Cradily because Armaldo sucks.
I don't like both fossils though.
Blue Ninja
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Went with primary types where possible, unless I really had a favorite with that particular secondary type (looking at you, Gardevoir & Talonflame).
HawthorneKitty
Sgt. 2nd Class in the Creep Battalion, Waifu Wars
Ground was the hardest for me to decide; then I remembered WooperZ.
I was also surprised how balanced the generations were.
I was also surprised how balanced the generations were.
Blue Ninja
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I was more surprised at how little pure and primary flying-types there are.
Starwolf_UK
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With what you can get legendaries for on GTS I think I have the consensus that players either hate legendaries or hate doing any of the following:
-Breeding for IVs
-Leveling up
-Slightly convoluted evolution methods
-Earning the Starf or Lansat berry themselves
I'm also surprised as I'd expect everyone to dump their worthless Kanto dogs (with the 4*0 IV) on offers now when they could but I was putting up but nope I get Gen VI ones.
-Breeding for IVs
-Leveling up
-Slightly convoluted evolution methods
-Earning the Starf or Lansat berry themselves
I'm also surprised as I'd expect everyone to dump their worthless Kanto dogs (with the 4*0 IV) on offers now when they could but I was putting up but nope I get Gen VI ones.
I wonder when hidden power will get reworked. I feel a physical version is overdue (see Giga Impact) but also no HP Fairy is a little odd. Then there is the fact HP fighting is now impossible for legendaries to have (3 perfect IVs stops HP fighting from happening).
Muku
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Kind of surprised about that too. Umbreon, Lugia, and Pikachu are my top favs, so interesting to see two of three get that kind of love. Though my husband always loves to call Umbreon his Japanese name, "Blackie". Haha.
Lugia is best Gen 2 bird. End. Of. Story. Ain't got no room for Ho-oh on this party bus.
I think I like Ho-Oh just a teeny tiny bit more than Lugia, but they're both so damn awesome.
Also my favorite electric Pokemon is actually Manectric despite having Pikachu as my avatar
Gimme Manectric version pls
Muku
Member
I think I like Ho-Oh just a teeny tiny bit more than Lugia, but they're both so damn awesome.
Also my favorite electric Pokemon is actually Manectric despite having Pikachu as my avatar
BLASPHEMY! Naw.. Manectric is pretty cool too.
HypnoDarkrai
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I bet it has to do with the anime!
Lugia and Umbreon were both prominent in the Johto anime!
Blackie is cuter than Umbreon so I agree.
Blue Ninja
Member
BLASPHEMY! Naw.. Manectric is pretty cool too.
Had a tough time deciding between Ampharos and Manectric, but ultimately the electric sheep just wins it all.
Muku
Member
I bet it has to do with the anime!
Lugia and Umbreon were both prominent in the Johto anime!
Blackie is cuter than Umbreon so I agree.
Were they? I only watched the Kanto stuff. Even then it became sporadic after a certain point in time. It was originally on Saturday morning, right? If so I know exactly why I stopped watching it then. Pokemon League came into town and my morning was better spent at the league having fun. :3
Edit: Blackie is kind of cool, but at same time more descriptive of the Pokemon than a name. Haha.
HypnoDarkrai
Member
There was a mini arc involving a Lugia and its baby being captured by Team Rocket.
Gary's Eevee also evolved into an Umbreon.
Edit: forgot about Pokemon 2000 as well!
Pokemon 2000! The second Pokemon movie. Lugia's theme is so good
Muku
Member
That's true. I did see first three movies at theater. First was on my own. Second two were due to work at a day care. Had field trips to go see the movies. Worked for me. Got me the cards and kids wanted to leave and talk Pokemon.
Edit: ffdgh, I actually kind of wanted to put Espeon in. Espeon is up there with Alakazham for me. But I already had two Eeveelutions and it felt like overkill.
Sylveon is there because well.. not overly a fan of look of Fairy Pokemon. Almost went with Marill though. He's up there. Though kind of miss some of the Fairy Pokemon old typing.
Spinosaurus
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Fighting type was realy hard. It's my favourite, and I really couldn't choose between Machamp, Primeape, all the Hitmons, Hariyama, Breloom and Hawlucha. I ultimately settled with Hitmonchan because Boxing is my favourite, and the one that I actually know myself.
My choices are probably odd lol
Wyndstryker
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Tie for a lot of things, but I'm pretty satisfied with my list. I'm very much a gen 4/5 person lol.
MrCookiepants
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Eh, might as well.
Most of these were easy choices.
Most of these were easy choices.