HypnoDarkrai
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Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire |OT| Hoenn Finally Confirmed
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0. Unless my transferred ones from XY count.
My shinies off the top of my head:
Radar chaining:
- Shinx (multiple, in Platinum)
- Litleo (multiple, in X)
- Ditto (multiple, in X)
RNG abuse in Platinum:
- Dratini
- Charmander
- Ponyta
- Eevee/Umbreon
- Feebas/Milotic
Random encounter:
- Rattata (Black 2)
- Diggersby (X - I was enabling the Poke Radar but it actually broke my chain of Litleos at the very start)
- Feebas (AS - I think this also counts as a random encounter rather than chaining, since I was fishing but it came up immediately; I wasn't even trying to chain)
- Spheal (AS)
Chain fishing:
- Dratini (X)
- Dragonair (X)
- Magikarp (both X and AS)
- Poliwag (X)
- Poliwhirl (X)
- Luvdisc (X)
- Clawitzer (X)
Masuda egg hatching:
- Litleo (X)
Trades and events:
- Raikou
- Entei
- Suicune
- Jirachi
- Metang
- Gyarados
- Charmeleon
- Ninetales
- Latias
I'm planning on SRing for shiny legendaries once I have the Shiny Charm in AS.
Radar chaining:
- Shinx (multiple, in Platinum)
- Litleo (multiple, in X)
- Ditto (multiple, in X)
RNG abuse in Platinum:
- Dratini
- Charmander
- Ponyta
- Eevee/Umbreon
- Feebas/Milotic
Random encounter:
- Rattata (Black 2)
- Diggersby (X - I was enabling the Poke Radar but it actually broke my chain of Litleos at the very start)
- Feebas (AS - I think this also counts as a random encounter rather than chaining, since I was fishing but it came up immediately; I wasn't even trying to chain)
- Spheal (AS)
Chain fishing:
- Dratini (X)
- Dragonair (X)
- Magikarp (both X and AS)
- Poliwag (X)
- Poliwhirl (X)
- Luvdisc (X)
- Clawitzer (X)
Masuda egg hatching:
- Litleo (X)
Trades and events:
- Raikou
- Entei
- Suicune
- Jirachi
- Metang
- Gyarados
- Charmeleon
- Ninetales
- Latias
I'm planning on SRing for shiny legendaries once I have the Shiny Charm in AS.
Having nearly completed my living dex (1 Arceus short!) I decided to try my hand at online battling for the first time ever. 5 straight losses later... all I can say is that damn, that was demoralising. I got beat every which way - with status effects, with pure power, with tricky moves and all sorts. Was also making all kinds of errors and not predicting what my opponent would do at all. You really need to know all the pokemon you might come across. I knew nothing about Heatran other than it's type, so I thought Fire moves might be okay to knock off the last 10% of its health. Big mistake.
It was tons of fun, though, and I can imagine you never make the same mistake twice. It's one thing to look something up - it's easily forgotten. If it costs you a match you're much less likely to forget. There was other stuff that cost me matches, though, like an Infernape outspeeding my Greninja, that I couldn't understand. I guess I'm going to have to start learning speed stats. It's the paramount stat, isn't it?
Glad I gave it a go, though. I just wish the single player game had the same kind of battles.
It was tons of fun, though, and I can imagine you never make the same mistake twice. It's one thing to look something up - it's easily forgotten. If it costs you a match you're much less likely to forget. There was other stuff that cost me matches, though, like an Infernape outspeeding my Greninja, that I couldn't understand. I guess I'm going to have to start learning speed stats. It's the paramount stat, isn't it?
Glad I gave it a go, though. I just wish the single player game had the same kind of battles.
You just need to learn the metagame, which comes from both studying and experience.
It's the best feeling in the world isn't it? People usually complain about games being too easy, but then you hop on online and do some ranked battles, and you get your ass handed to you back and forth. It's disheartening sometimes, but I can easily say that I love it. It just makes every single win you get so satisfying.
Every time I hop on online, I always have the Global Link site open and quickly check the most popular moves and what people are running when a new mon I never battle before shows up. It helps avoid some situations that are obvious to most but first timers. I still remember the first time I left my Dragonite against a Nidoqueen not knowing that they carry Ice Beam most of the time. Little things like that can change the entire battle in one move.
Generally an Infernape shouldn't outrun a Greninja. Are you familiar with Natures and IV's? If not you may have more research ahead of you than you thought.
NormalFish
Banned
So this is my rudimentary ORAS VGC team:
Anyone have thoughts?
Anyone have thoughts?
Pegosaurus
Banned
what does your team look like?
Indeed. I run nothing but "gimmicks" and creative strategies that I create, and they often work well (though my latest one, not so much, thanks to the mass amount of Garchomp) mostly because the other players don't know wtf is going on
My newest one is so evil in theory. I just need to test it.
I just started watching the Genesect movie and what the hell is up with the sound effects? The dialogue all seems to match up, but things the Pokemon are doing seem to make no sound. Weird. Also I really don't like that Mewtwo has a female VA. I heard this is a different Mewtwo to the one in the first movie? How did that even happen.
PreyingShark
Member
So like, I'm SRing with one hand here and I just realized that if I had a New 3DS XL I wouldn't be able to do this because I can't just place my left hand's thumb on the Select button like I do now. I can do it all one-handed because I have my XL stand up on its side so I can just gently push the R button into the table and use the left-hand for everything else (I just use the touchscreen to open up the Pokemon menu).
SRing with my left-hand on a New 3DS XL would be, well... Some pretty hardcore shit, that's for sure.
SRing with my left-hand on a New 3DS XL would be, well... Some pretty hardcore shit, that's for sure.
Pegosaurus
Banned
hmmm I have an interesting strategy cooking up in my head
seems too crazy to work though
seems too crazy to work though
NormalFish
Banned
you'd be surprised how many cheese strats work in Bo1s... Just make sure you plan out the strategy in that you have enough balance between making the strategy work and making sure a pokemon like Garchomp or Talonflame can't just straight up sweep you 6/4-0.
Pegosaurus
Banned
well it involves a mega slowbro trickroom team with 2 unorthodox pokemon
Slowbro should be able to wall those two with it's massive defense, but I'll have to worry about some other threats
(Volcarona) (F) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Flame Body
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
– Protect
– Quiver Dance
– Heat Wave
– Bug Buzz
(Tyranitar) (F) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Jolly Nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
– Brick Break
– Rock Slide
– Stone Edge
– Crunch
(Metagross) @ Metagrossite
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
– Meteor Mash
– Bullet Punch
– Protect
– Zen Headbutt
(Ludicolo) (F) @ Sitrus Berry
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 188 HP / 4 Def / 108 SAtk / 140 SDef / 68 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
– Fake Out
– Scald
– Ice Beam
– Giga Drain
(Amoonguss) (M) @ Chesto Berry
Trait: Regenerator
EVs: 236 HP / 84 Def / 4 SAtk / 84 SDef / 100 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
– Rage Powder
– Spore
– Giga Drain
– Protect
And the last member of the team is kinda undecided. I switch between a bulky Rotom-W and TalonFlame
This is my first competitive team that i put together a year ago but never really played with it till now when i got back into pokemon. It is a complete knockoff of this one http://nuggetbridge.com/reports/ludimoth-topmoth-loser-2013-masters-us-national-champion-report/
I feel like its garbage in this meta now.
I was told to find a team that looks cool and i really liked this one back then. Its really fun in free battle unranked, which i win a lot... ranked is another story i get crushed.
The all star on the team is surprisingly Ludicolo. The ice beam does gods work taking out Dragon types and others that have ice weakness, it seem like they are never expecting that move on ludicolo.
NormalFish
Banned
When I ran a baton pass shuckle team (hilarious. Also did it with dunsparce) I chose my baton passers really deliberately to be able to cripple or straight up beat some of the more common threats to my shuckle. That's the sort of thing you need to be mindful of. It sucks to be trying your strat and suddenly you realize that you have absolutely no way to deal with a common threat.
This also applies to normal teams. You need to choose your pokes in a deliberate way that deals with threats in a complimentary way. If you're playing doubles this is even more important due to an emphasis on pairings.
For example, who specifically do you want to pair Amoonguss with? It's a pretty strong pokemon in its own right, but on your team it doesn't seem to synergize as well with any individual other pokemon. Volcarona can make use of the support, but do to the prevalence of rockslide, Rage Powder doesn't do as much as you might like. Perhaps something like Azumarill that deals with Rock Slide spammers can be added so that Amoonguss and Volcarona don't have to worry about that as much.
That's just an example, though (and a relatively poor one, tbf). Just gotta keep these things in mind.
Pegosaurus
Banned
Thanks for the tip.
I'm gonna test it out a few times in Showdown and edit as I need to. If I don't end up scrapping it I'll post it on here.
Different experiment so different Mewtwo
Good point about synergy and pairing.
Not knowing anything about competitive play when i copied this team, my goal was just to have something i could play at the time.
I suppose i should focus on a well rounded team with some synergy while i learn what the different types of pokemon do.
I Want Your Cat
Member
How would you like to hand over that Shiny Charmeleon for a shiny Rayquaza? Good IVs and nature is jolly. EV trained in speed and attack.
NormalFish
Banned
Browse the nugget bridge or smogon RMT section (on the forums). Lots of people give out good advice on those boards for team building and synergy. I also really love Nugget Bridge's reports section for getting ideas. I'd also familiarize myself with the showdown usage stats (LINK). They're super useful for planning out your team on paper.
Just remember to practice and don't be afraid to try out different pokes. If you're not sure of something, try it on Showdown or see if you can find someone else who used it and wrote about it.
I always thought Mewtwo was a freak chance success though? Like wasn't the Mewtwo in the first movie just the first successful clone of Mew? Plus the Rocket scientists enhanced its DNA and you'd think any records of how they did that were lost when Mewtwo blew up the lab. Pretty BS if anyone other than Team Rocket made this one though, and they'd have no reason to considering last I heard Giovanni had all memories of Mewtwo wiped.
I'm overthinking this lol.
Yeah
My theory is that they originally wanted the original Mewtwo, but the voice actor didn't want to return. Japanese studios tend to not like changing voice actors for the same role...often, they retire the character should the voice actor quit or pass on, though not always. So here I guess they decided to go a different way.
I maintain the movie would have worked better if it was the old Mewtwo trying to calm the Genesect who were going through the same existential crisis it did
Says who? The anime has never followed the "only one" legendary "rule".
NormalFish
Banned
I thought I remembered mention of there being only 1 Mew in the movies, too actually. I definitely remember that being from somewhere, but perhaps I'm remembering something from the game or from "fan lore".
Pegosaurus
Banned
lol there was a huge chink in the armor of my plan
Outside the awesome reports our contributors right, this is a great spot for usage stats: http://3ds.pokemon-gl.com/battle/oras/#double
NormalFish
Banned
Garchomp so low down? Clearly inaccurate.
Good suggestion, legitimately surprised at some of those.
NormalFish
Banned
Honestly most physically defensive pokemon deal with kangaskan fine. It's not actually so ridiculous in doubles. Mawile is scarier. MegaMence is probably also scarier, though I haven't played it very much. Your amoonguss should do fine. Gengar also deals with it very well. You can try spamming Scald or using will-o-wisp if you need to deal with it better.
As for talonflame... I personally love my TTar + Quick Guard combo for it. Allows me two seperate ways to deal with it.
What does your Ttar build look like?
Edit: Ohhh i just noticed the request i put to change my Screen name months ago finally went through!
NormalFish
Banned
I use a trickroom team, so mine is a bit atypical.
**Gonna explain it since it really is odd. This TTar is slow enough to guarantee first turn sandstorm against any drought or drizzle user. I combo it with a focus sash gengar for guaranteed trick room + sand into a free switch to mawile (since gengar takes a hit, and then takes sandstorm damage for a KO). Fling combos well with trickroom and ironball for really interesting speed management as well as stupid strong dark type stab.
Currently, a mixed attacker set is really popular. You can find it in a lot of Nugget Bridge reports with various tweaks.
I'm gonna scour nugget bridge for more info.
Is a trick room team too advanced for someone like me who is relatively new to the competitive scene?
I play lots of strategy games and TCGS, and i've always leaned towards the more reactionary and counter type strategies. Things that throw the opponent off. I've never been an all out offensive type player. Is there any sort of teams i should look into?
That sounds really badass. I like what you describe.
NormalFish
Banned
Trick room teams are a good example of low barrier of entry, but really high skill cap. You can do crazy stuff with them, but you also can completely bone yourself. If you just play it as a set up move though, it's easy as piss.
Well you've sold me on testing out a Trick room team. If anything it will be so fun to try out some other than fake out quiver dancing every game i play. LoL
NormalFish
Banned
Yeah, you should definitely try it out. Here's the team i used in XY VGC:
That 6 IV on TTar is because breeding for the 0 IV was impossible, and 6 is slow enough for everything I needed. There are better trickroom teams, but I really enjoyed playing with this.
Nice, thanks for this list.
So ideally every Pokemon on a trickroom team will have 0 Speed in its IV right?
If you're able to maintain trick room then yes
Yeah, unless you want to put in a fast pokemon or two in case you can't start Trick Room.
Trick Room teams are pretty fun, but I'm pretty bad at using them.
I think I managed 5 straight wins in the 1-round, swiss match portion of the GAF tourney, but when we got to the best 2 out 3 regular match portion my team completely crumbled.
It's hilarious knocking out a Level 100 Blissey when you have a Pokemon that has been transported from another game with Lucky Egg and Exp O-power Level 3...you get more than 50,000 experience points, no joke.
Unfortunately I can't actually move that one from my Black 2 cartridge, since, ah, the Poke Transporter finds it to be "problematic" (pretty sure the person who traded it to me hacked it, lol >_>).
You can have the one that I RNG'd if you want though, which is actually now a Charizard. Mind you, I didn't RNG it for anything other than shininess, so it doesn't have any perfect IVs (it has a Calm nature).
Unfortunately I can't actually move that one from my Black 2 cartridge, since, ah, the Poke Transporter finds it to be "problematic" (pretty sure the person who traded it to me hacked it, lol >_>).
You can have the one that I RNG'd if you want though, which is actually now a Charizard. Mind you, I didn't RNG it for anything other than shininess, so it doesn't have any perfect IVs (it has a Calm nature).
You have to be careful with it because if someone reads it and has a counter you're boned. Just be sure to have a back-up plan just in case because if you can't get it down or someone kills your set up Mon and you can't finish them before it wears off then you're done.