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Pokémon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire |OT| Hoenn Finally Confirmed
- Thread starter ColtraineGF
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We're in a battle, and you've just KOed one of my Pokémon. I bring in Salamence and Intimidate your Pokémon. It can't KO Salamence easily. What do you do?
Close my 3DS and play something else.
Take a hit, let my pokemon die and kill M-Mance on the next switch in with something designed to counter.
Either that or just play doubles. You have infinite more options of dealing with things in doubles. M-Mance is strong. He'll be in the rotation with Kang, Zard, and Mawhlie for sure. How big he is remains to be seen.
That is the correct answer
But seriously, there's pretty much nothing that can switch into Salamence and either KO it or force it to switch out. With Mega Salamence's 130 base Defense, there's no Ice Shard user that can take it out with priority, while Salamence can easily KO any Ice-type with +1 Return or Double-Edge.
After a Dragon Dance, there's nothing other than Choice Scarf users that outspeeds it. Sure, you could bring in Scarf Noivern, but if you predict wrong you die and if Salamence has a special wall teammate you're forced out and take another 25% from Stealth Rock.
TL;DR: In singles, the only non-gimmick Pokémon that can effectively beat Mega Salamence is Mega Salamence, and therefore in a meta where it is allowed, you have to run it to have a chance. Banning Mega Salamence would remove this restriction, making teams way more diverse.
EDIT:
OK, so Mega Salamence just got a free kill, and can immediately switch out of its counter to get another free kill later.
Smogon's banlist only applies to singles. I agree that it's way more manageable in doubles, so I'm not expecting it to get banned there.
Charlie0108
Member
So who uses Mega's during the story? I testing one out in my first playthrough of X and Y and they're just way too OP, drained all the fun out of the battle.
Im only doing it for Mawile since its my favourite pokemon. For the others, ill leave it for post game.
Blue Ninja
Member
Can't wait to teach my Shiny Rayquaza Dragon Ascent. Ballinnnnnnnn'
NormalFish
Banned
I think the game is less than 2 days old and already banning things "preemptively" is incredibly stupid.
**For a more detailed response, speed control is invaluable against sweepers, and low tier singles players never utilize it. There are plenty of pokemon that can switch into Megamence and survive a hit. There are also pokemon that can survive an intimidate hit. Having a pokemon like this doesn't mean that you have to bring it, it means you have to prepare a team to deal with it. Trick room teams with mega mawile, for example, should crush it.
Wyndstryker
Member
Bringing over some old favorite pokemon into AS. Not all my oldies since I'm not too fond of all of them. Just one team. My Empoleon, Milotic, Kricketune, Luxray, Delphox and Golem. Should be interesting seeing these continue to gather more medals as the gens go by.
SoulUnison
Banned
But when there's 700+ Pokemon to choose from it's anti-fun to have a *need* to build your team specifically to counter a small handful of specific Mons or team builds.
I don't like Smogon at all, really, but I even less like seeing the same 10 or so Pokemon on every single team over and over again.
X/Y made me SO SICK of Mawile, Togekiss, Kangaskhan...
NormalFish
Banned
This has been true in literally every single OU meta. There are always top tier threats. in 4th gen, for example, Scizor was the "holy shit" mon, and before that Garchomp (which eventually got banned). If you want to play pokemon competitively, you need to build your team around the major threats.
That said, I am not opposed to Mega mence getting banned; I am opposed to Mega mence getting banned right now.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
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SoulUnison
Banned
I honestly don't know which way to go with it.
I hate seeing the most popular and perceived to be powerful Pokemon on 75% of Battle Spot teams, but at the same time my IRL Pokemon Rival *loves* Smogon rules and would remove all luck and chance from the game if he had the chance.
He'll disconnect from a match and tell me I'm being unfair if I dare to use a Non-Uber tier Legendary I happen to like the design of. He'd ban critical hits and status effects, if he could.
NormalFish
Banned
He should learn to play a different game. I know people of all kinds love pokemon, but the people who rage about those things are just really in the wrong game :\
OT: I am pretty impressed thus far. Got to rustboro and will probably get to slateport later tonight. Music is pretty great, and the art is better than XY, as was my impression with the demo.
Wyndstryker
Member
I'm someone who hasn't really played Hoenn much in the past AS is so much better than XY. I would probably go ballistic one Sinnoh comes around since that was my first real pokemon gen I got into
sorakirosaki
Member
ah mah gawd i love the dex nav managed to find a sky attack taillow and brave bird taillow in route 104 this game man this game
I have spent so much time on this. I hope they keep this feature for future games. So much fun.
sorakirosaki
Member
it seriously is spent the longest time in the starting areas than any other pokemon game
I almost had my starter team get wrecked by a sky attack Taillow. Was incredible hahaha.
Yep, it was great! I haven't reached the first gym yet (or, more accurately, the first one I can actually beat), but it already looks promising enough. I'd like to keep playing now, but the battery was running low and I had to plug the console in, so I'll play some more tomorrow.
HypnoDarkrai
Member
A Poochyena did that to me, I thought I was a goner and then it used Odor Sleuth giving me another turn to catch it.
You do realize you can play the game while it's charging, right?
I do, but only the Pokemon I use the most. Makes it feels more personal when my favorites all have their own names
dakkumauji
Member
Only in Pokemon Yellow where she gave you a Squirtle.
I never used them in X/Y caused I only used Gen 6 Pokemon (what variety) so I'm looking forward to smashing the game with them this time. :]
I have in the past, usually try to get a theme going. I named most of my team after Mass Effect characters once
I don't normally name my Pokemon (Save for a couple of particularly desirable legendaries like my Pseudo-flawless Japanese Zekrom Susanoo), mostly because I seldom think to. I attempted to change that last time in X/Y, but kept forgetting to name new team members. Maybe this will be the first major exception.
I'm doing the opposite, coincidentally (at least for Alpha Sapphire).
Definitely using M. Starters in the battles against the version mascots though, because I sure as hell am not going into a battle against a Mega Legendary without being armed to the teeth.
I'm doing the opposite, coincidentally (at least for Alpha Sapphire).
Definitely using M. Starters in the battles against the version mascots though, because I sure as hell am not going into a battle against a Mega Legendary without being armed to the teeth.
Spiritreaver
Member
Yep, on every first play through I nickname every single first Pokemon I catch. It's fun going back to old games and seeing what theme I ran with.
I'll admit though I'm creatively spent this go around. My Mudkip is called Swamp Thing, such a meh and overdone nickname. Oh well.
I'm sorry but the Pokémart music is way too catchy to be limited to the rare specialty shop we get occasionally. As long as they the music inside of the CenterShops isn't dynamic I'll always prefer them separated. <3
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Question how do we get the items from the ORAS demo?
It says once per day, sent successfully but where do I pick it up?
Thanks guys
It says once per day, sent successfully but where do I pick it up?
Thanks guys
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Wait what. Why is the contest background tge camera background?
I usually turn the sound off in these games after a few hours. Connivance of all in one > occasionally hearing some good music in my book. Every time.
For some reason, I kept reading Brave Bird as Gale Wings. I was like, "wut, when did Taillow become Smogon bird 2"
I need to go to bed :/
Yes, but I wanted to play it while lying in my bed, lol
Surely you have a conveniently located power outlet close to your bed..........right?
Rhomega Beta
Member
Does the Exp. Share as a Key Item return from X/Y? Do you still get it relatively early? I want to avoid grinding.
PreyingShark
Member
You get it even earlier this time.
Rhomega Beta
Member
Awesome, thanks. Also still wondering about the photo spots.
PreyingShark
Member
If you talk to a certain NPC before the event then that happens.
When I tried it out I saw... pretty much jack shit. Top tier camera, 10/10 experience.
Really not sure what I think of new Mauville City in this game.
What did you send over? Not sure if the items work differently, but I just sent over Glalie, and there's a Pokemon Link option in the ORAS start up menu to send it to the PC box.
What did you send over? Not sure if the items work differently, but I just sent over Glalie, and there's a Pokemon Link option in the ORAS start up menu to send it to the PC box.