There is also the wise glasses/muscle band that gives a 15% boost to special/physical with no downside. Also from my Goodra's experience assault vest can be pretty crazy on sweeper who has some bulk by default. With light screen and the vest and 0 SPD evs I've had ice beams hit him for like 30 damage lol.
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There is also the wise glasses/muscle band that gives a 15% boost to special/physical with no downside. Also from my Goodra's experience assault vest can be pretty crazy on sweeper who has some bulk by default. With light screen and the vest and 0 SPD evs I've had ice beams hit him for like 30 damage lol.
Eternal Darkness
Neo Member
echoed voice or fury cutter + metronome are destructive, but it need some really good defense and speed
I think I will train an amaura for this strategy.
Scythesurge
Member
Well Lum Berry can be pretty useful to prevent annoying statuses, and Focus Sash can be very useful as well. Weakness Policy and Adamant Vest are items I've been highly considering too.
theprodigy
Member
King's Rock+Skill Link #haxstrats
Mother Green
Member
How to EV train an adamant Larvitar? 252 Atk/ 252 Speed / 4 HP or 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4? or something entirely different? I also want it to keep Dragon Dance and Pursuit.
Oh man, Focus Sash, forgot about that completely.
Alright, I got Focus Sash, King's Rock, Air Balloon and Lum Berry, so now everyone is covered with an item.
UPDATE
Alright, I've given out some stuff so I'm going to update this with what I have left.
Froakies are all on reserve now I believe.
Goomy x 2, 5 IVs, ALL male, no hidden ability cause sap sipper is important to my team, sorry!
Rotom x 14, 5 IVs, ALL of them are modest and have perfect attack cause fuck RNG.
Mawile, 4 IVs, Male
PM me or say something here if you want any of this for FREEEEE! Also make sure to give me your in game name so I can keep track of who wants what.
edit for FC: 1203-9507-1587
Alright, I've given out some stuff so I'm going to update this with what I have left.
Froakies are all on reserve now I believe.
Goomy x 2, 5 IVs, ALL male, no hidden ability cause sap sipper is important to my team, sorry!
Rotom x 14, 5 IVs, ALL of them are modest and have perfect attack cause fuck RNG.
Mawile, 4 IVs, Male
PM me or say something here if you want any of this for FREEEEE! Also make sure to give me your in game name so I can keep track of who wants what.
edit for FC: 1203-9507-1587
Mother Green
Member
Can I have a Goomy and Rotom?ign Buzz, FC is in my profile.
I added you!
Could I get a Froakie (with Protean) and a Goomy?
In game name: David, FC in profile
Oh my god
Added.
Also forgot to put my FC in that last update, will edit, but for those that need it it's: 1203-9507-1587
natethegreat409
Member
Thanks for the Pokemon Zenax!
The Real Napsta
Member
I'll take any froakie you are willing to part with.
Gillian Seed
Banned
My pleasure.
Well, I was going to say the only Froakie I have left is the torrent one, but, Kami just sent me a protean with 2 IVs. Do you want the torrent with 5 IVs for the protean with 2?
SkullHydra
Member
Good game Busaiku. That Flareon is quite tough...
Like a baller.
Mother Green
Member
Now I need your FC.
Yeah, sorry I forgot about it in my list. 1203-9507-1587
SkullHydra
Member
I was wondering why it wasn't healing. Lol. Good game! That Flareon man... it's powerful.
SkullHydra
Member
Adding you now, my FC is 4914-3588-6854 (Alon)
So, what exactly is the deal with spreads that dump EVs into non-HP defensive stats? I mentioned this yesterday, but I was looking at the old spread for Reuniclus and it divides it 172 HP, 28 Def, 252 SpA, and 56 Sp. Def. Apparently this was for the specific purpose of dealing with a dragon gem boosted Draco Meteor from Latios, and I'm guessing the heavy shift of the metagame wouldn't make that a smart spread in X/Y. But is it still worth trying to subdivide like that? I always seem to see 252 HP first and foremost defensive EV-wise, with the explanation being (I thought) that HP is always better to go for since it "covers" both defensive stats instead of just one, and it only seemed to get broken for things like even Substitute divides or whatever.
So should I try to math out a new EV spread standard, or is 252 HP fine?
So should I try to math out a new EV spread standard, or is 252 HP fine?
theprodigy
Member
if you're starting off, a 252/252/4 spread is fine
in high level play though, EVs are typically manipulated to survive certain hits (such as Dragon Gem Draco Meteor from Latios, though this doesn't actually exist anymore)
MAY I GET A GOOMY PLEASE?!?!
My FC is 1048-9257-7593 and ign is Jody! I'll add you now!
SkullHydra
Member
I have no idea. Thanks for the win though. =PUm what. It forfeited me? What did I do
Added you.
Also, this will be my last trade for a few hours since things have slowed down a bit I'm going to be afk. Send me PMs if you want anything I have left, still got a bucket load of Rotom to get rid of.
Now that I think about it, I guess I can always just reset the EVs if need be. Lazy, non-calculation method it is!
Thank you bro! Made getting a perfect Goomy way easier for me!
Many thanks to Tenck for hatching this beauty for me:
31/31/31/0/31/31 Jolly Tyrunt
It's so... beautiful
No problem! Enjoy your Dinosaur.
Now to get my router to work so I can check my eggs.
Oh yeah. Just read through some of the OP, and it says super training will cap stats at 252? That sounds like it'd make it way easier to round out stats when EV training, IE getting those last 2 points. So I should be good to horde battle till I get to 250, then take on a +4 challenge or use a bag or whatever and that'll take me to 252 instead of overshooting and screwing up my spread?
Edit: And while I'm thinking of it, do we have a good collection of images of the shinies for the XY pokemon? When I've needed to they've shown up through googling individual pokemon, but I'd like to just flip through the whole lot of them.
Edit: And while I'm thinking of it, do we have a good collection of images of the shinies for the XY pokemon? When I've needed to they've shown up through googling individual pokemon, but I'd like to just flip through the whole lot of them.
Thought it caps at 252 even if you're not in Super Training. So even if you are somehow at 251 HP killing a horde of Gulpin will only give you 1HP since you've reached your cap.
I think EVs in general cap at 252 instead of 255.
The cap is 252 regardless of what method you use. So, feel free to just horde battle a bunch. : p
SkullHydra
Member
Or you can just do horde battles until you're way past 252, and it still won't give you too much. Lol.
Scythesurge
Member
I love that they finally capped it at 252, it just makes so much sense!
SkullHydra
Member
Good game upandaway. I'm not falling for your whole "Be gentle" nonsense next time. Lol.
Hahaha man, that was fun. Charizard Y's Overheat is waaaaay stronger than I expected!
Guess we're 1-1 now after that forfeit :lol
Mother Green
Member
Looks awesome!
I think I need to give this Instacheck thing a try. Mhhhmm competitive shinies...
Ultimadrago
Member
Many thanks to Tenck for hatching this beauty for me:
31/31/31/0/31/31 Jolly Tyrunt
It's so... beautiful
Congrats, MicH! It's certainly on my short list.
SkullHydra
Member
Overheat is dumb. My Ditto copies that stat decrease, and comes in weak. Lol.
That Forfeit doesn't count, lol. It's 1-0. I must not let this stand!
I spotted that Carbink. Metagross lead, mwahaha.