ScraftyDevil
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Toxic + Infestation + Protect = CHEESE ALL DAY
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Pokémon XY |OT3| How's That? Owned, Suckah!
- Thread starter ColtraineGF
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Toxic + Infestation + Protect = CHEESE ALL DAY
Indeed, one of Shuckle's many fine strategies. You see, Wichu? Choose the superior pokemon, choose Shuckle!
Damn, I forgot about Defog. It's an egg move for Crobat, so it can get it before Pokebank.
If you're not a Taunt guy, then you could maybe run U-turn over it.
Infiltrator is strictly better than Inner Focus now, so you should always use it on Crobat. Anyway, i'm assuming this is for 6v6. In that case, you'd probably want to run a moveset consisting of Defog / Taunt / Roost / Brave Bird.* Between Taunt, Roost & Defog you can pretty much dismantle any stall team on your own.
If you're not a Taunt guy, then you could maybe run U-turn over it.
Incandenza
Banned
Um, so I'm about 7 hours into this game. I've played Pokemon a bit before but this is the first one I'm planning to put serious time into.
Can someone please explain what exactly Super Training does and why to use it? Or Pokemon-Amie? Or the Player Search System? Actually, come to think of it, I really don't understand anything that's happening on the bottom screen. Is it just weird minigames or should I actually care about this stuff?
Can someone please explain what exactly Super Training does and why to use it? Or Pokemon-Amie? Or the Player Search System? Actually, come to think of it, I really don't understand anything that's happening on the bottom screen. Is it just weird minigames or should I actually care about this stuff?
podracer35
Member
The idea of Vivillon is both amazing and rage-inducing. I want to catch them all, but I doubt I'll simply be able to trade for them. 
KittenMaster
Member
PSS - makeshift MMO functionability tied together with duct tape
Super Training - Increases stats you train in (more than you would need for single player and isn't even the fastest method of doing so so you can just ignore it)
Pokemon Amie - Tamagotchi simulator
Super Training - Increases stats you train in (more than you would need for single player and isn't even the fastest method of doing so so you can just ignore it)
Pokemon Amie - Tamagotchi simulator
cool, thanks! Ill keep both movesets in mind. I play mainly 3v3, so I probably wont need Defog.
You want pokemon that can be built into a sun team or just support pokemon?
good question, this being my first team i'm a little noobish at this
what would you suggest?
PreyingShark
Member
I would suggest Pokemon that play nicely with the Sun but don't rely on it. A lot of the time the sun isn't going to be up and if your team is incapable of functioning in the sun then you're going to run into serious consistency issues.
EDIT: *outside the sun what the hell am I on
that's a very good point, can you recommend any that i should breed ?
You might want a bulky Volcarona/Archanine. Both can function on their own, take a lot of hits and set up Sunny Day. You'll have to breed Morning Sun on Archanine, though. Volcarona can make due with roost.
You'll also want a spinner/defogger to take out entry hazards as they really eat into fire pokemon, especially Charizard and Volcarona. Excadrill/Foretress/Donphan/Hitmontop and Crobat/Mandibuzz are solid pokemon for this role, though they won't benefit from the Sun. Rapid Spinners can't hit ghost while pokemon that use defog can, but they will also remove your own entry hazards.
Thinking about it more you might want to skip using Excadrill and Foretress. If they're out during Sunny day then you're putting them in extreme risk due to their weakness to fire attacks, especially Foretress. This is why I didn't suggest any water-type spinners, though that's because water attacks become weaker in sunlight.
AnkiRendan
Member
Well, I finally tried the Battle Maison, and...
...I'm going to have to breed myself another Togepi. I can't go through with this. Goddamn it, Game Freak.
...I'm going to have to breed myself another Togepi. I can't go through with this. Goddamn it, Game Freak.
would crobat/mandibuzz be a better bet?
AnkiRendan
Member
Holy crap. I need an ability capsule...
I looked through my Wonder Trade results and I have 2 Eevees with HP Ice.
According to the IV checker, one has superior potential with 31 in Defense, Special Attack and Special Defense.
The other one is outstanding with HP, Attack, Defense, Special Attack and Special Defense, but the Speed is extremely low. I'm not sure how its type could be Ice, but that's what the Hidden Power checker says...
If you get a heat rock it'll make the sun last 8 turns instead of 5 but you won't be able to use that with mega charizard.
I built a bit of a doubles sun team with ninetales and venasaur carbink and talonflame/chandelure (because I already had the last two sitting around). Its worked OK so far but definitely needs improvements.
Professor Beef
Banned
Those Pokemon are going to die to fire with or without the sun, though.
Hitmontop, Donphan (it's in the game, right?), and Starmie make good spinners. Try raising one of them.
I don't think the latter is HP ice and I was hoping all the corresponding IVs were perfect since i don't wanna go through the hassle
SenorArdilla
Member
So you want something like 31/xx/30/31/31/31?
Yes exactly! If it's Timid that would be even better but if not it's still ok.
AnkiRendan
Member
I see.
Well, the Eevee is HP Ice. I'll trade it to anyone else here so they can confirm what I'm saying is true. I find it strange as well, but I checked multiple times.
Well, the Eevee is HP Ice. I'll trade it to anyone else here so they can confirm what I'm saying is true. I find it strange as well, but I checked multiple times.
cheers for the tip, i have a few heat rock's that i could use
i'd like to try doubles as well, but baby steps first with this team building/iv breeding/ev training lark lol
I have a timid HP ice eevee but it also has its ha, I'll have to check its IVs. I also have a box of eevee eggs but I lost the instacheck results on them so can't tell if they are until I hatch.
Checking this has made me realise I have 2 spare 5iv HA eevee (good espeon) and one normal ability (good jolteon). So I might as well trade them off. Unless they will make good other eevees?
SenorArdilla
Member
Did you still need one? Or did you already find someone?
Fury Sense
Member
link to next gaf tournament?
Gaming Truth
Member
Just curious, who's on the quest to 718? I'm on the fun quest of trying to have them all, but haven't made it all the way to White yet and am not exactly sure how many I'm currently missing.
Still neeed it. Just let me know which of the 2 legendaries you want. PM me if you want
BTW guys I want to run a defensive Volcarona for one of my teams. Should I run a calm or bold nature. I usually like to play to the pokemon's strength but I'm stuck with this one. Any advice would be appreciated
PreyingShark
Member
Most fire attacks will KO them cleanly, sun or not. It doesn't really matter. Just keep them away from fire-breathing things.
Muku
Member
I'm going to do it once it comes out. Will be a nice place to store them all too so when next game comes out transfer box over and wham bam got credit for 'em haha.
My problem is I've either lived in areas that didn't really have the events for some of the legendaries... or more recently, I've lived in Japan so I'm like in this odd in between. This is why I prefer Wifi so much more. But looking forward to Celebi. But I know there will easily be a few legendaries that I won't have. :/ Maybe I can find others with it that will want some old legendaries.
Gaming Truth
Member
Funny enough, I didn't bother going to the Toys R Us's and Gamestops to get them either:
http://www.pkmdb.com/
Until Rocks.
That's why it's doubles. Get a good partner and down go the rocks.
Speaking of that does anyone have a Protean Froakie?
What nature you running on it?
Incandenza
Banned
Okay cool, I feel less bad about ignoring that stuff completely now. There's seems to be plenty to do outside of it anyway.
The Volcanroa? Timid. One Quiver Dance and it outspeeds pretty much everything I've come up against. The power loss doesn't really seem too bad, everything goes down pretty fast. The only thing I've seen take more than two hits is a Blissey, most things go down in one.
Hmm, I was thinking about running a defensive set on it but it seems most of the internet thinks a speed or special attack set is better
I could see it working very well. The whole reason I want to use a Greninja alongside him is to get a free Dance off, counter his weakness to rocks and pick off anything that might survive a hit with a priority move. A more defensive set would let you get a dance off a lot easier but you'd lose a lot of the power and speed. He'd tank surfs and special moves better, not that he can't already do that easily after one dance.
I've got a one from wonder trading you can have, the IV's sadly aren't great
drop me a pm with your friend code if you still would like it
I finally made the tournament thread: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=739033
After spending a few hours last night on here and on smogons site reading about sun teams I've picked a few pokemon to try and piece together a team lol
I've got -
Charizard Y
Chlorophyll Venusaur
Arcanine
Donphan
Mamoswine
Zoroark
Do these sound ok? What could be changed?
Next noob questions, (not yet googled anything for these pokemon)what would be good natures and sets for these?
I've got -
Charizard Y
Chlorophyll Venusaur
Arcanine
Donphan
Mamoswine
Zoroark
Do these sound ok? What could be changed?
Next noob questions, (not yet googled anything for these pokemon)what would be good natures and sets for these?
Professor Beef
Banned
I'd replace Zoroark with Chlorophyll Exeggutor, but that's just me.