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Pokémon XY |OT4| Don't Bank On It

Tiamant

Member
I'm still very much so a competitive Pokemon noob. I wasn't quite done building the team I wanted, and threw it together last second just cause he was talking shit. Lol. Glad I won some though. Any suggestion for a good Stealth Rocker? I'm eyeing Mamoswine and Forretress. He has Ferroseed who I sure he'll use for Rapid Spin.

Steelix is a good stealth rocker, once you've set up you spam Dragon Tail to no end.

Also any Rock/Water is a good counter to The Stupid Bird, Carracosta being my favorite. Kabutops, Barbarnacle, Omastar... All of them OHKO him without a sweat.
 
Had some competitive matches with a Smogon-obessed friend the other day. Talonflame w/ Gale Wings and Brave Bird is seriously infuriating - probably more so than Mega Kangaskhan. I managed to beat him a few times with my team though - never felt so good.
 

Sigmaah

Member
I'm not looking for anything in particular, but Victini and Deoxys would be awesome.
I don't want to trouble you though dude!

If I have the time, which I do this week, it's no problem my dude!

Is that from going to Gamefaqs?

Yessir!

Sigmaa

have you ever seen defog calm togepi, calm magic guard clefairy, bold painsplit rotom-w on gamefaq?

I'm pretty sure ppl have them, I don't think I've seen a list with them but just make a topic asking and someone should pop up and say that have it. I'll look for them tonight!
 
Nice. Just hatched a shiny Scyther. Second random shiny I've ever gotten in one of these games.

Adamant, Technician, 31/31/31/31/20-23/31.

Notbad.jpg

Also, thanks to onslack for the boss Ditto clone.
 

RoySFNR

Member
Lord, finally hatched a 5IV Jolly Sneasel with Pursuit, Fake Out and Icicle Crash. Feels good.

Anyone want a 4IV reject before I unleash them on the GTS?
 

Wichu

Member
Is cloning with a single 3DS (and a digital copy) possible at all? All methods I've seen requires 2 people or 2 3DS'.

Nope, the 3DS keeps track of the last digital save internally, so you can't do save/restore shenanigans unless you hack your 3DS.
 

onslack

Member
Is cloning with a single 3DS (and a digital copy) possible at all? All methods I've seen requires 2 people or 2 3DS'.

I clone with a OG 3DS with a physical copy of Y and on my 3DS XL is a digi copy of X

Nice. Just hatched a shiny Scyther. Second random shiny I've ever gotten in one of these games.

Also, thanks to onslack for the boss Ditto clone.

No problem at all.

Nicely done with the Scyther
 
Is getting a 6IV Poke through breeding impossible? Someone above mentioned using the God ditto + a 5IV Poke will garner a 5IV child. Is that the maximum or is a 6IV child just extremely rare?
 

SeZMehK

Member
Protects both you and your doubles buddy from damage, no priority and only works on the first turn Greninja is out.

Oh, I guess it's like fake out. Just more powerful...? Lol.

Is getting a 6IV Poke through breeding impossible? Someone above mentioned using the God ditto + a 5IV Poke will garner a 5IV child. Is that the maximum or is a 6IV child just extremely rare?

6 IV is possible. It's all according to your luck.
 

DaBoss

Member
Is getting a 6IV Poke through breeding impossible? Someone above mentioned using the God ditto + a 5IV Poke will garner a 5IV child. Is that the maximum or is a 6IV child just extremely rare?
Getting a 6 (31)IV Pokemon is just RNG dependent. 1 out of the 6 IVs is random, while the rest are passed down from the parents.

There aren't many cases where you want a 6 (31) IV Pokemon. Ideally, for Special Atk focused Pokemon, the Attack IV is 0 so Foul Play would be weaker.

They are very useful for breeding within egg groups.
Oh, I guess it's like fake out. Just more powerful...? Lol.
Fake out has +3 priority. It is more like Quick Guard, except no priority and blocks any non-priority non-status attack that comes from a Pokemon that Greninja outspeeds.
 

Quest1

Member
Quest, did you play your match yet for the Nugget Bridge Tourney?

Backlot, I just noticed that you're in the same ladder as I am.

Yeah last night. I was playing from behind and made two perfect plays to finish and win the first game. Literally, read exactly what he was gonna do and countered it. It was awesome. I think he was so shook after that I won the next game 4-0.
 

Son Of D

Member
Nope, the 3DS keeps track of the last digital save internally, so you can't do save/restore shenanigans unless you hack your 3DS.

Ah crumbs. I'll have to find someone with a 3DS I can trust then.

Is getting a 6IV Poke through breeding impossible? Someone above mentioned using the God ditto + a 5IV Poke will garner a 5IV child. Is that the maximum or is a 6IV child just extremely rare?

I think it's a 1/32 chance of getting a 6IV child with a God Ditto and 5IV parent. That's what I heard anyway.
 

onslack

Member
Is getting a 6IV Poke through breeding impossible? Someone above mentioned using the God ditto + a 5IV Poke will garner a 5IV child. Is that the maximum or is a 6IV child just extremely rare?

I've got a few 6IV pokemon from breeding with 2 5IV parents before I got hold the God Ditto
 
What happens when breeding with two Destiny Knots?
You lose the opportunity to select for nature by having one parent hold an Everstone.

As long as at least one parent holds a Destiny Knot, the child will draw five of its stats from the parents collectively, rather than three. Adding another won't do any extra.
 
You lose the opportunity to select for nature by having one parent hold an Everstone.

As long as at least one parent holds a Destiny Knot, the child will draw five of its stats from the parents collectively, rather than three. Adding another won't do any extra.
Ah okay, I was thinking it could increase the chances of possibly getting 6 IV offspring. Oh well...
But I didn't know that it was from the collective parent IV pool. So using a god Ditto with a non perfect pokémon won't guarantee 5 perfect IVs on an offspring? Hmm... but then everstone can pass the ditto nature... I'm conflicted on how I feel about that.
 

B-Dubs

No Scrubs
Ah okay, I was thinking it could increase the chances of possibly getting 6 IV offspring. Oh well...
But I didn't know that it was from the collective parent IV pool. So using a god Ditto with a non perfect pokémon won't guarantee 5 perfect IVs on an offspring? Hmm... but then everstone can pass the ditto nature... I'm conflicted on how I feel about that.

Just throw the knot on one of them and the stone on the one who has the nature you want to pass. Then replace the bad IV mon with better and better ones until you get 6.
 
Ah okay, I was thinking it could increase the chances of possibly getting 6 IV offspring. Oh well...
But I didn't know that it was from the collective parent IV pool. So using a god Ditto with a non perfect pokémon won't guarantee 5 perfect IVs on an offspring? Hmm... but then everstone can pass the ditto nature... I'm conflicted on how I feel about that.
Right. You've got twelve stats to pick from. The child will select five of them.

The good news is that it's pretty quick and easy to iterate once you've got one perfect parent. Say you've got your Ditto and a completely non-exceptional parent you want to breed with it. Half of your collective IV pool will be perfect and half will be junk. For each stat, you've got a 50/50 chance of the inherited IV coming from your Ditto. So your offspring will average about 2.5 perfect IVs each.

So you take one of those 3IV offspring and you toss it in there with the Ditto. Now you're working with a pool of 9/12 perfect IVs. So you can expect at least two perfect IVs per egg with an average of 3.75.

So you repeat that until you've got a 5IV parent and the Ditto. Somewhere along the line, keep an eye out for an offspring with the nature you want and drop an Everstone on it when you stick it in the daycare. At that point, most of your eggs should be 5IVs so you can just breed until the draw for the imperfect stat falls into the one you don't care about.
 

Alchemy

Member
Oh, I guess it's like fake out. Just more powerful...? Lol.

I view it more like a really restricted double protect, since your opponent can still set up on you if you use it and you don't break any potential focus sashes. It is pretty easy to play around.
 

Boogiepop

Member
i am reading this comic right now
http://itsahardlife.smackjeeves.com/archive/

omg...its really good
is there any other nuz luck challenge comics other then "hard mode" and this ?

I swear I've seen another, but I can't quite recall what it was. It may have been linked to that awesome journal style written let's play of one of the really crappy rom-hack games. I think maybe Topaz or something? It was a hack of Emerald for sure. If anybody knows what I'm talking about, btw, please speak up, because I'd love to reread that and absolutely can't remember what it was.

Edit: It was Pokemon Quartz. Now let's see if I can find/remember what the Nuzlocke I was thinking of is. One sec...
Edit-edit: Geez, I'm trying really hard to remember. I think they had some extra rules on top of normal Nuzlocke to make it harder, and I believe at some point during it they may have got a shiny? I'll keep looking.
 

Kirlia

Banned
I've a couple of Savanna Vivillions if someone is interested. Any other Vivillion would be fine.

Could you save one for me, if possible? I have other Vivillion and will see if I have a spare Polar or something. I at least have some Friend Safari Moderns, though.
 

Kirlia

Banned
anybody..? plz.

edit: Also whats the use of being nice and wonder trading if everyone only trades magikarp? When did this mess start?

They aren't trading Magikarp to be spiteful, at least; people have been trying to breed Moxie Gyarados, so keep a lookout on the ability of the Magikarp you receive. If it has the Rattled ability, it will become a Moxie Gyarados. But even if it just has Swift Swim, you can tell that the person tried to breed for a Rattled Magikarp if it's at level 1.

Personally, it's the level 15 Luvdisc that get annoying. And the elemental monkeys, who are almost always from Santalune Forest and NEVER from the Friend Safari.
 
They aren't trading Magikarp to be spiteful, at least; people have been trying to breed Moxie Gyarados, so keep a lookout on the ability of the Magikarp you receive. If it has the Rattled ability, it will become a Moxie Gyarados. But even if it just has Swift Swim, you can tell that the person tried to breed for a Rattled Magikarp if it's at level 1.

Personally, it's the level 15 Luvdisc that get annoying. And the elemental monkeys, who are almost always from Santalune Forest and NEVER from the Friend Safari.
Oh really? Yea I thought it was some troll thing they started online everyones name says "release teh kharp" It got annoying.

Damn so no one can help give me a zorua? I really want to breed it for shiny as Im on a streak. Got an shiny eevee and totodile in less than 24 hours.
 

Boogiepop

Member
I've noticed that I get way, waaaaay too many Froakie and Fletchling from Wonder Trade. Even though they're often blatantly breeding rejects, which can be cool, I just have WAY too many. I was hoping that things would get a bit better since Bank is (kind of) out, but it's only improved ever so slightly. Oh well, I guess I'll try to find a good time to at least get some more Japanese Pokemon later...
 

macklelol

Member
Oh really? Yea I thought it was some troll thing they started online everyones name says "release teh kharp" It got annoying.

Damn so no one can help give me a zorua? I really want to breed it for shiny as Im on a streak. Got an shiny eevee and totodile in less than 24 hours.

I saw some picture telling people to wonder trade tons of Magikarps on today's date, so probably is some troll thing going around today.
 

Kirlia

Banned
I saw some picture telling people to wonder trade tons of Magikarps on today's date, so probably is some troll thing going around today.

Awesome! Now I know not to Wonder Trade today.

Also, I think I do have at least one spare Zorua. If not, breeding is an option. I can trade it this evening, Mello.
 
I saw some picture telling people to wonder trade tons of Magikarps on today's date, so probably is some troll thing going around today.
Someone is evil..how is that fun unless its the moxie thing. Its like how in brawl everyone taunted the whole match. If you tried to fight everyone will jump you
 
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