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Pokemon Gold / Silver for DS announced
- Thread starter neo2046
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nintendo needs to give pokemon to retro. I feel like this is finally a somewhat of a step where it should logically go with the pokemon following now but it took to long for something like this(yellow was a tease) Retro should either make the next handheld gen pokemon or make it a revolutionary step to consoles.
Dabookerman
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ant1532 said:
Retro.. As in Retro Studios??? Metroid Prime Retro Studios???
The hell o_o
Dabookerman
Member
Forkball said:
Busty Misty.. and Leggy Gardevoir.. and me, on a night of passion..
I like your thinking.
ShockingAlberto
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I'd be happy with a Level 5 co-developed Pokemon title.
Don't let them make many game design decisions, but I think they could make a really nice world.
Don't let them make many game design decisions, but I think they could make a really nice world.
Hero of Legend
Member
I just want Stadium 3 damn it, and with Hajime Wakai back as the composer, Stadium 2's soundtrack was the shit!
Sad that Pokemon on Wii retail seems to be a thing in the past, PBR sucked, but that's no reason to quit Wii retail, I mean didn't it sell well (well... maybe not for a Pokemon title...)?
Sad that Pokemon on Wii retail seems to be a thing in the past, PBR sucked, but that's no reason to quit Wii retail, I mean didn't it sell well (well... maybe not for a Pokemon title...)?
Masked Man
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Dabookerman said:
YES OMG <333
Seriously, GSC had the best soundtrack.
Lkr said:
its not a matter of taking it away from Gamefreak, you can relax im not a pokemon hater, i fully understand that everyone is awesome. WHAT IM SAYING IS that retro knows how to make a leap in a franchise for a new but just as good experience which expands on the series. There hasnt been any huge changes in pokemon really, and some of them are dead obvious. I feel like Retro would hit those obvious leaps and changes and do something really unique with the franchise.
AND NO I DONT WANT IT MATURED to that person who assumed that.
Eteric Rice
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ant1532 said:
I don't really think Retro would be the right company to do Pokemon, really.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Me neither, but Gamefreak certainly isn't in any hurry to improve it that much.Eteric Rice said:
Honestly, I actually get a little angry whenever I see someone get hyped over these remakes. As fun as Pokemon is, it might be the most stale franchise in all of videogaming. The solo quest never really changes from game to game. The fanbase is perfectly satisfied with incremental third versions of each game, and now one remake per generation is becoming a trend. If that doesn't scream bare minimum effort, I don't know what does.
The only reason I'm even thinking about buying HGSS is because I skipped GSC the first time around.
Eteric Rice
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GCX said:
Maybe...
But I think some people here are underestimating Pokemon's depth. It may not look like much on the front, but the depth is in it's mechanics. And if you try to play competitively, your head will explode.
Why does every single franchise ever have to have huge evolutions? Can't I just have my Zelda where I enter a fucking dungeon from an overworld and get my item to beat said dungeon while finding a map and compass and shit? Can't I have my Pokemon with it's simple story and simple yet deceptively complex mechanics?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
What does that have to do with anything? I'm up on current events wrt the competitive scene. I read Smogon and all.Eteric Rice said:
Unless I'm mistaken, HGSS isn't going to give us much of anything competitively that isn't already in DPPt. There's no real Pokedex-related reason to get it like there was in FRLG, as almost all of the existing 493 critters can be obtained in existing games. There's no major gameplay shift, as these games are still 4th generation entries. There probably won't be any new Pokemon either.
As far as I can tell, the only real draw that HGSS has for longtime Pokemon fans is nostalgia that I don't have. I'd rather be exploring a new continent with new Pokemon with a new quest structure rather than collecting 8 badges and revisiting a gimped version of Kanto that I tired of a long time ago.
Eteric Rice
Member
Sixfortyfive said:
Well, I think people are looking at it as "lol u have four moves." They've perfected a formula, and changing it to much could cause major damage to the franchise.
Pokemon is practically a new Dragon Quest, really.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I think you're reading posts that don't exist.Eteric Rice said:
Pureauthor
Member
Eteric Rice said:
...You're not actually replying to what he's saying, you know.
Curious about the Pokewalker...
I'm not sure I ever really intend on using it, but I'd hope they have plans to support it in the future... but that might require a level of software planning uncommon in the Japanese development community. It'd be a shame to make a bunch of electronic hardware that will be used exactly once.
That said, it does seem pretty likely that this will be the first Nintendo handheld hardware generation to get two main-line Pokemon games, so it's definitely possible.
I'm not sure I ever really intend on using it, but I'd hope they have plans to support it in the future... but that might require a level of software planning uncommon in the Japanese development community. It'd be a shame to make a bunch of electronic hardware that will be used exactly once.
That said, it does seem pretty likely that this will be the first Nintendo handheld hardware generation to get two main-line Pokemon games, so it's definitely possible.
ShockingAlberto
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There's definitely some changes the game could stand to make that would not affect anything fundamental.
Like, in every Pokemon game, you always go to a cave early on, and that cave always has zubats and Geodudes. There's always a small bush blocking your way, and you can't proceed without a move that fucks up your blossoming moveset. You're always going to see someone powerful do something cool and they will probably ask for your help at some point.
Just add some variety in the game. Just because it's a Pokemon main series game does not mean it needs to be a remake of Red and Blue.
Like, in every Pokemon game, you always go to a cave early on, and that cave always has zubats and Geodudes. There's always a small bush blocking your way, and you can't proceed without a move that fucks up your blossoming moveset. You're always going to see someone powerful do something cool and they will probably ask for your help at some point.
Just add some variety in the game. Just because it's a Pokemon main series game does not mean it needs to be a remake of Red and Blue.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Unless I'm missing the point, the GBA had RSE and FRLG.Ravidrath said:
That's probably why HGSS bothers me the most. Since this is becoming a trend of sorts now, I guess we have to look forward to RS remakes for the next handheld.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Ah, you're probably right. The DSi should definitely be around long enough for another one.Gravijah said:
Pure speculation, but I wonder if they wouldn't make the next one DSi only or at least incorporate a bunch of DSi exclusive features. Something like the transition from GB->GBC I guess.
ShockingAlberto
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They did exactly this with Pokemon Crystal, so I wouldn't doubt it.Sixfortyfive said:
overthehill99
Member
I am taking this around everywhere with me. It will always be in my pocket. Any word on what exactly it does other then add happiness to your Pokemon?Captain N said:
overthehill99
Member
Holy shit exp? That seems very.....exploitable.Captain N said:
Yeah, sorry... as others have deduced, I meant two non-remake mainline games, i.e. two generations.
I don't expect them to do it (I wanted them to do it with HG/SS!), but I'd LOVE to see the 5th gen games as DSiWare only.
Not only would it be an awesome Trojan Horse to get kids familiar with digital distribution, but, more importantly, it could seriously put a dent into the rampant cheating and cloning going on that has only become more prevalent on the DS. And... you could actually keep event Pokemon secret, by patching them into the game when they're released.
Can you imagine? An event Pokemon being actually new and surprising?
The more I think about it, the more I think Pokemon needs to be entirely digitally distributed, like... yesterday.
I don't expect them to do it (I wanted them to do it with HG/SS!), but I'd LOVE to see the 5th gen games as DSiWare only.
Not only would it be an awesome Trojan Horse to get kids familiar with digital distribution, but, more importantly, it could seriously put a dent into the rampant cheating and cloning going on that has only become more prevalent on the DS. And... you could actually keep event Pokemon secret, by patching them into the game when they're released.
Can you imagine? An event Pokemon being actually new and surprising?
The more I think about it, the more I think Pokemon needs to be entirely digitally distributed, like... yesterday.
It's not like exp. is really that big of a deal, especially for competitive stuff.
From the video, it looks like you just get exp. alongside your watts. They ask what watts are, and she says that you can trade them for special items. The transfer screen doesn't actually show how many exp. points they got for their 123 steps, but I'd actually imagine it is 1:1 just based on the fact that they didn't feel the need to show you how many you got.
And without a paint shaker or a seriously hardcore exercise regimen, 1:1 steps/exp. is pretty nothing-y. Pokemon need over 1 million exp. to reach level 100. 1 million steps is about 425 miles, and the average person walks 3000-5000 steps each day, so we're looking at about a year to level one up for the "average person." At those kinds of numbers, I'd even imagine actually playing the game will level you faster than a paint shaker will... not to mention be a lot quieter and easier on your PokeWalker.
Basically, it's just a nice little exp. supplement, with the added bonus of strengthening your bond with a particular Pokemon in the game and as a game player, and getting you items to go along with all that.
Hopefully the items you can buy with it are interesting, and more than the usual rare berry / hold item selection... wait, hopefully not, because even though I think this is pretty neat, I'm not sure I want to actually carry it around. But, hey, maybe it'll get me back to the gym every morning.
From the video, it looks like you just get exp. alongside your watts. They ask what watts are, and she says that you can trade them for special items. The transfer screen doesn't actually show how many exp. points they got for their 123 steps, but I'd actually imagine it is 1:1 just based on the fact that they didn't feel the need to show you how many you got.
And without a paint shaker or a seriously hardcore exercise regimen, 1:1 steps/exp. is pretty nothing-y. Pokemon need over 1 million exp. to reach level 100. 1 million steps is about 425 miles, and the average person walks 3000-5000 steps each day, so we're looking at about a year to level one up for the "average person." At those kinds of numbers, I'd even imagine actually playing the game will level you faster than a paint shaker will... not to mention be a lot quieter and easier on your PokeWalker.
Basically, it's just a nice little exp. supplement, with the added bonus of strengthening your bond with a particular Pokemon in the game and as a game player, and getting you items to go along with all that.
Hopefully the items you can buy with it are interesting, and more than the usual rare berry / hold item selection... wait, hopefully not, because even though I think this is pretty neat, I'm not sure I want to actually carry it around. But, hey, maybe it'll get me back to the gym every morning.
shykyoichi
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No.Ravidrath said:
Dabookerman
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All of you guys saying Pokemon needs to do this and that are missing the point. Pokemon doesn't need to do anything, no matter what it does the games always are guaranteed million sellers. They aren't at that stage where they need to make drastic changes.
Look at RSE. It's a huge downgrade from GSC, it still sold millions of copies.
Look at RSE. It's a huge downgrade from GSC, it still sold millions of copies.
The Question Mark
Banned
Hmm, in which way?
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
I don't think they need to do a thing.Dabookerman said:
It'd just be pretty nice, you know?
AKingNamedPaul
I am Homie
hard mode, with good A.I, who switches (at least for the gym leaders) is all I would ask for.
Dabookerman
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Sixfortyfive said:
The one thing I wish they would do is provide more battle options. They are still slow as hell.
Sixfortyfive
He who pursues two rabbits gets two rabbits.
Wouldn't even have to be in the main quest. Maybe some post-E4, Battle Frontier cameos with normal versus rules (no items and such).FootNinja said:
Hero of Legend
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Ravidrath said:
Cosmo Clock 21
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While I'm not for total digital distribution, I feel they could gain a lot by using the DSi's capabilities to introduce patching to the game. Legacy DSes might be able to get by using a bundled GBA expansion cart.
Wii Will Rock U
Banned
Not sure where I should post this but I can confirm to you all that Ho-Oh and Lugia are going to be the stars of the next Pokemon movie coming out next summer. It seems as though they are really taking this Gold and Silver revival seriously, so much so that a movie is going to be based around their legendaries.
drtomoe123
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Wii Will Rock U said:
Finally.
However, I do think that Ho-Oh should play a big part in the anime when it ends (if it ever does, haha)...that connection with Ash throughout the series is just too good to pass up, and I really don't think that a movie will do it enough justice.
Oh, and I've got both pre-ordered now...September will NEVER come soon enough.