Particle Physicist
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The HORROR!
"from the Republican Party tent"
same thing. Yeah.
I find it hilarious how you have been in hyperdrive this past week or so. lol
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"from the Republican Party tent"
same thing. Yeah.
I find it hilarious how you have been in hyperdrive this past week or so. lol
SirButterstick
Banned
U luv Kosmo
Not to mention a good deal of liberals and people within specifically spoke out against the stuff he posted when it cropped up. We can't do much about idiots who demean us but we don't expect that from officials, or representatives from the party. That kind of behavior is bad for everyone and its nice that at least 1 republican at that event didn't like the punching bag there too.
TacticalFox88
Banned
Oh the irony of people posting their explicit hatred of government on a government created entity, that helped expand businesses AND the economy simultaneously.
Yeah. For an election forecast, their model ably accounts for campaign dynamics that are notoriously difficult to quantify.
It has been apparent that neither will accede to strong opposition to Assad's regime. They've boycotted every international meeting with elements of the opposition. And they've blocked prior UNSC resolutions. Libya was a rare confluence of circumstances unlikely to be replicated. And as both the opposition and Assad's regime perceive the situation a zero-sum, the likelihood of a pacted compromise is remote. And no one, prudently in my opinion, is willing to interject themselves into the situation. Unfortunately for the Syrians, the conflict will probably prove protracted.
Political advertisements, insofar that they're effective, typically have a greater effect on people who are less politically engaged; although, this is hardly absolute. Consequently, I doubt they'd have a greater effect on people who listen to talk radio. They're probably firm conservatives, so the advertisements merely reinforce their position. And I'd conjecture that there's little difference between consumers of new and old media. Those who are engaged are probably still self-selecting their media, and those who are disengaged probably could not care less. Altogether, the effects of political ads are greatly exaggerated.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Some local poligaf observations;
So this guy is running for TAX COLLECTOR in my home town (Charlotte County in SWFL), which as you probably know, do not make many decisions, and none about tax policy.
Yet, based on the number of political signs around town (The large expensive kind, on every corner), is spending 10s of thousands of dollars to get elected... makes you wonder.
I love the claim he will save 1 million dollars in tax collection costs per year. That's $6.27 a person per year. I doubt it costs that much in the first place to collect the taxes.
So this guy is running for TAX COLLECTOR in my home town (Charlotte County in SWFL), which as you probably know, do not make many decisions, and none about tax policy.
Yet, based on the number of political signs around town (The large expensive kind, on every corner), is spending 10s of thousands of dollars to get elected... makes you wonder.
I love the claim he will save 1 million dollars in tax collection costs per year. That's $6.27 a person per year. I doubt it costs that much in the first place to collect the taxes.
Byakuya769
Member
Because he would have been told, "Work harder!"
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
I wouldn't want to pay Texas, either.
lol i changed it.
Been watching some of the Obama ads about Romney. Man are they good.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
BotoxAgent
Member
considering the stock rose from $6 a share to $96 a share, that means romney had more than the modern day equivalent of $300,000 in just one company as a college student, all given to him by his dad. And that's with far cheaper tuition costs back then compared to now, even when adjusted for inflation.
Give me a break.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
God the college situation in this country drives me insane thinking about it. I come from a borderline-upper middle class family, I work as full time as is feasible while also taking a full courseload, and I'm still going to graduate with over 20k in debt. The costs just seem too unreasonable compared to the financial realities of most American families.
Aaron Strife
Banned
lol.
I had 1/4 of my college expenses paid for by scholarships, the rest paid for by my grandparents. About $80k total over 4 years (including rent, food, books, etc).
Looks like tuition for BYU in 1969 when Romney went there was $215 for LDS members like him.
http://yfacts.byu.edu/article?id=85
What cost $215 in 1969 would cost $1263.96 in 2010
So this fuck had over 300k in just one company and tuition just over 1k, and he and his wife say they were struggling.
TacticalFox88
Banned
I wonder if colleges even realize that their high prices are going to severely bite them in the ass in the long run.
Yup, I really cant understand people who say its totally doable to go to college, pay your own way, graduate debt free, and either act like thats a good thing or something that most people should do.
Sure, i guess its possible if you do the whole community college and work 40 hours a week on top of that, but why the hell would you want to be either studying, going to class or working for ever waking moment of your day? Who the hell thinks that is a good thing? It simply isnt healthy and complete bullshit that you are basically forced to have no social life or down-time if you want to graduate with no debt
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Sounds like lazy poor-person talk to me.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I've found that it seems hard to understand for people who were born with a trust fund.
Well what do you expect them to do with continual cuts from state funding. The burden Is going to get passed on to the students.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
It's two fold right now, actually three if you count the real problem.
1.) States are cutting back on funding public colleges.
2.) Tuition is rising both with and without inflation.
The real problem, or rather cause of #2, is: Colleges have lowered standards to attract even more students, this has caused a domino effect in which classes become easier, and degrees decrease in value.
It has basically artificially increased the demand, and thereby prices.
I have no idea how to fix the core problem. The problem was in part created due to the mantra in the 90s that everyone should go to college, when not everybody is cut out for it.
Perhaps a national requirement that must be met to attend college might help (of course could only apply to public colleges). It would have to include accomplishments made while in High School, standardized test scores, writing ability. Perhaps even recommendations from teachers. An all encompassing set of marks, as just basing it on tests does not work well. Edit: Requiring some community service to attend college would also weed out people not serious about it.
Edit: One other thing I forgot about; encourage a movement from college to vocational schools for certain types of career aspirations.
Just look at the absurdly low requirements for FGCU:
SAT - Critical Reading >= 440 or ACT - Reading >= 18 and ACT - English >=17, and
SAT - Mathematics >= 440 or ACT - Mathematics >= 19, and
SAT - Writing >= 440 or ACT - Combined English/Writing >= 18 OR
Obama and Biden having lunch shortly after the Supreme Court upheld Obamacare.
http://media.talkingpointsmemo.com/slideshow/2012-july-obama-white-house/1-273372
http://media.talkingpointsmemo.com/slideshow/2012-july-obama-white-house/1-273372
http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/07/taxes-and-rich-0
A good article to link if someone claims that the rich pay more than their fair share of taxes. Hint - they dont
A good article to link if someone claims that the rich pay more than their fair share of taxes. Hint - they dont
Salvor.Hardin
Banned
Nah. They'll just enroll more international students.
How do you know it's 2000?
We know he's lying due to SEC filings. More and more proof that he's lying keeps coming out.
He is definitely lying, the question is:
Was he lying to shareholders
or
Was he lying to the IRS
or
Was he lying to the media
And of course, ALL OF THE ABOVE is possible.
He claimed he left Bain in 1999 to run the Salt Lake City Olympics, but Bain's SEC filings show him as owner and manager through 2002.
Basically, he either got paid at least $100k/year to do nothing for 3 years and lied to the SEC (which is possibly a crime) or he lied to the public about his involvement in Bain for some reason.
Well this is kind of interesting:
He worked at Bain until 1999, when he retroactively retired from the year 2002.
He worked at Bain until 1999, when he retroactively retired from the year 2002.
ClassyPenguin
Banned
Brilliant.
On the college issue, my parents are low-income so I got most of community college paid for and some of University to but I still had to pay about $10K in loans. Not like the universities are innocent either, there is some shady accounting practices and other issues going on.
But at the end, I still got to go to a university which without federal and state aid, I wouldn't be able to go.
Also, there was a bit of a dispute about whether or not Romney met residency requirements to run for Massachusetts governor. One of the key parts of Romney's argument for residency was that he was constantly in the state for business meetings as the president, ceo, director, and owner of Bain.
So he's potentially committed perjury, too.
Now, it's pretty clear that Romney was involved with Bain, imo. He's just trying to run from it because of some dirty laundry. But that's just making things worse.
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
O'Donnell had a clip of Romney saying, outloud, "I WORKED AT BAIN TWENTY FIVE YEARS." Problem? He started with Bain in1977.
Math, people.
Yeah that clip's been around a while. I think I saw that on Talking Points Memo quite a while ago.
metalslimer
Member
Romney's dug himself into such a hole with this one.
The state funding cut backs as also compounded by the fact that with rising enrollment rates the state funding naturally has to go up to keep pace with enrollment but when it instead decreases it hurts twice as bad since not only was there a decrease in overall funding but there was an additional decrease in per student funding.
The problem with tuition rising beyond the rate of inflation is not due to actual teaching costs but with auxiliary costs like new buildings and especially cutting edge research buildings which cost a hell of a lot more than the "cutting" edge research 50 years ago and I believe administrative costs have gone up.
I agree there should be better programs to divert students to what would be better for them like learning trades but I do think there should always be a push for additional education beyond high school since there is no such thing a good paying blue collar jobs anymore which is why the additional education is almost necessary.
SouthernDragon
Member
Parents are... low middle class, I'd say.
Got my bachelors fully paid for for the first 4.5 years, ended up paying 7k for the last 1.5 years.
Not bad, but the last 1.5 were a total scrape. I almost didn't pay for my last semester, had to ask an uncle for the last bit of money to pay.
Got my bachelors fully paid for for the first 4.5 years, ended up paying 7k for the last 1.5 years.
Not bad, but the last 1.5 were a total scrape. I almost didn't pay for my last semester, had to ask an uncle for the last bit of money to pay.
Ether_Snake
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Why is the bankruptcy of the US not a bigger topic right now?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483230
And did Obama ever even talk about the Libor scandal?
I mean seriously, there is no coming out of this mess until the banksters are removed from power. Neither the Republicans or Democrats will do it, they play along with them. Not just in the US, it's the same shit everywhere.
Down the line, it doesn't matter who wins, the US is still fucked, because banksters runs the US.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=483230
And did Obama ever even talk about the Libor scandal?
I mean seriously, there is no coming out of this mess until the banksters are removed from power. Neither the Republicans or Democrats will do it, they play along with them. Not just in the US, it's the same shit everywhere.
Down the line, it doesn't matter who wins, the US is still fucked, because banksters runs the US.
It's basically a fake problem? US treasury bond yields are negative right now -- people are willing to pay a fee to lend us money. The correct thing for us to do is to borrow enormous quantities of cash, since we could put it in the bank and make a profit. America's not bankrupt -- Republicans are tugging on the purse strings hard.
I agree about the LIBOR scandal though. I think everybody's still waiting for something to happen that they can actually explain to the public.
Ether_Snake
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I doubt that even with a Democrat majority, that the cities in bankruptcy would change. They would still be run by the same idiots no? And for how long will the bonds yields be in the negative? They aren't borrowing massively to fix anything. Why would they later?
PantherLotus
Professional Schmuck
wait what, was he banned already?
Link to his ban?
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