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A lot of the surveys during the primaries showed most Republicans, including Tea Party ones, to be more concerned with defeating Obama overall than with the individual Tea Party positions.
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Where is this from?
A lot of the surveys during the primaries showed most Republicans, including Tea Party ones, to be more concerned with defeating Obama overall than with the individual Tea Party positions.
Excellent.
Sounds like a deal they would propose. Bipartisan!
Joe Shlabotnik
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Losing as a VP candidate doesn't really damage your future. If anything it shows you're ready and motivated for the Presidency. Ryan's not going to escape his ideology and there's no reason why he would want to--from his point of view, a VP run would be win-win. In fact, Romney's failure would obscure any clear indication that Ryan's values killed the ticket. Even with Palin, there's no way to say that McCain would have won with anyone else. He probably wouldn't.
All that said, Romney ain't picking him.
Edit: At this point, I'd say the race is trending towards Obama in a walk, barring a major "event" between now and the election. A major economic crash, something to upset the status quo. I don't think a stagnant or even slightly deteriorating economy is going to motivate enough GOP voters now or swing enough independents for Romney.
Blergmeister
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It's funny because the number seems outrageous, but the fact that it's not really means it is!
Orbis Tabula
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The thing about Paul Ryan is that, if he's VP and Obama makes and ad saying "Paul Ryan's budget, which Romney supports, does this and that to Medicare" all Romney's camp has to do is put out an ad saying "Politifact's 2011 Lie of the Year!" Which would send a much stronger message, I think.
So long as Obama doesn't utter "end Medicare," I don't think that's the case.
The Technomancer
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It would be close enough that the Romney campaign would run the ad. Hell, if the tables were turned it would be close enough that the Obama campaign would probably run the ad
Meh, I don't think it's be all that difficult to phrase it a whole bunch of different ways (Drastically alter Medicare, fundamentally change Medicare, deny future Medicare recipients access to the services enjoyed by the current generation, etc.) that the constant drumbeat of references of it continuing to exist would drown out a "Ending Medicare was the lie of the year!" ad.
It's all moot, Ryan isn't the VP anyway.
It's all moot, Ryan isn't the VP anyway.
Romney Camp Pushes Back Against Recent Polling Data
Haha man they are delusional as hell.
http://livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/entries/romney-camp-pushes-back-against-recent-polling-data
Haha man they are delusional as hell.
Palin became a superstar overnight because she was female and bizarre and every time she opened her mouth inaninty and insanity fell out like a fat burglar hiding in a wardrobe. That is not going to happen with ANY male outside of Trump.
You can't make a white male republican a superstar overnight, or that would be the first name on the ticket to begin with.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
Wait, so within the same exact thought he states effectively that Birtherism is fucking crackpot nonsense not worth wasting time on (via the tax question) but that Donald Trump is awesome and a fantastic asset to the republican party.
WHAT THE FUCKING DERP
I think we just discovered Kosmo's real name.
But he's not here to defend himself. Also, wtf is with the Pig latin spelling of this man's name?
What's it like in that bubble?
we had the discussion earlier that calling someone a liar, especially in the political arena, is a horrible horrible idea.
The fact that Romney has already done this should be enough evidence
PhoenixDark
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And yet the budget is still extremely unpopular among senior citizens and independents. Even if democrats can't argue it ends Medicare "as we know it" they can certainly freak everyone out by constantly using the word "voucher" without getting hit with a penalty flag. It's a toxic plan
Trying to force Ryan onto the ticket tells me that
1) conservatives feel if they're going to lose, they want to lose on their own terms
2) if an economic disaster occurs, this pick could end up being the perfect Trojan horse to get Ryan and his budget into the White House
Barring some catastrophe this will be a close election. If the world blows up like it did in Sept 08 then you might as well hand the election to Romney. That's truly the best way to get him into office. Who knows, maybe Wall Steeet plays along to make it happen
ClovingWestbrook
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God, please let us Romney select Ryan.
speculawyer
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Yeah . . . that is probably true. And that is the scary part for your campaign . . . the economy is weak, everyone knows it, but your campaign still can't seem to get anyone to like your guy! Most people don't believe he'll make anything better with his plans disrespecting gays and taking from the middle class to give to the rich.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I'm wondering how much that Tax Report had to do with it.
The media reported it as non-partisan report, showing that Romney will raise middle class taxes. It's far fetched, but it's not coming from a Candidate. It might have had an impact.
PhoenixDark
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A Romney win would likely be equal or smaller than Bush's 2004 ev margin. I'm away from a computer and can't use 270towin.com but let's say Rimney recovers in Virginia, wins Ohio, wins Nevada, and wins Florida and NC.
i agree with you on that side, but an Obama win would have him at 300+. I'm not sure what people call close on the EV side of things
PhoenixDark
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You're right, I should have said a Romney win would likely be close barring some national disaster. Whereas an Obama win could easily replicate 2008's ev or close to it
yeah, i think close, i dont think he can carry NC again, at the very least. Either way the popular vote will be much closer.
Hah, I think that's Gallup's largest spread for Romney. They've been all over the map this cycle with these weird swings.
It'll swing back in a few days.
That's just the Obama approval/disapproval. Obama and Romney are tied at 46.
Yup. Silver said as much. Convention is right around the corner, which should bump Romney to a tie or a small lead. Then he gets to begin spending his huge campaign war chest, and the end is nigh. Adios, Obama.
Yeah but the point of him doing this is because he wants to win Iowa and the Midwest. You aren't going to do that by having a photo op with a farmer who is about as far away from being a real midwestern farmer as you can get lol
Cool thanks.
Joe Shlabotnik
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Nobody gives a shit about fact-checking, for better or worse (mostly worse). "That's a lie" is a defensive statement. Which is why the Rove playbook was to just fucking lie all the time.
Actually, I think they buried the lede on this one: "While its unclear if Trump will speak at the Republican Convention, the top Romney surrogate is slated to be awarded Statesman of the Year honors by the Republican Party of Sarasota, Florida at a fundraising event a day before the festivities begin."
Seriously, I know it's just local Republicans but still: in what universe is Donald Trump 'Statesman of the Year'? I mean, just how far out of the mainstream are these people?
speculawyer
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Well at least they did not give it to JOHN BOLTON!
Maybe the Statesman of the Year thing is a way to throw a bone at the clown and not give him a convention speaking slot.
There is no way that is true. I mean, just no way. I mean I know it's Florida, but how are we supposed to even take them seriously at this point?
Cant help but chuckling to myself as I am reading this article about Romney taking the 'high ground' in the campaign. Of course you've taken the high ground, you've covered all ground with your flip-flops silly.
They must have been drunk at the time.
speculawyer
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They ceded the 'high ground' the moment they took video of Obama quoting McCain and used the video as if Obama was making the statement.
http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hil...e-firms-may-push-forward-with-layoff-notices-
Will Congress even manage to cut defense?
There is probably an extension in the works, it wouldn't surprise me. This wouldn't look good for anyone.
PhoenixDark
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Shouldn't the Romney camp be even more concerned that despite nothing huge happening, their candidate is clearly losing? It's been a death by a million cuts so far, from the gaffes to the report on his tax plan to him not releasing his own tax information.
Still, Silver doesn't think Obama is leading by that much, and agrees nothing has happened to explain the big lead polls are showing
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...ional-polls-shouldnt-panic-romney/#more-32980
Still, Silver doesn't think Obama is leading by that much, and agrees nothing has happened to explain the big lead polls are showing
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...ional-polls-shouldnt-panic-romney/#more-32980
BotoxAgent
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Jesus christ, is there a shed of honesty at all in his campaign? There's enough hypocrisy packed in to make everyone's head explode. I'd like to hear one honest truth that have come out of his mouth, just one.
Romney's worry should be that the polls are settling to a spot where they should have been all along.
I'm not sure one gallup poll makes any more difference than one cnn poll.
Unless people are just giving up on Romney, I honestly doubt the convention changes that as everytime he has had a chance to make a statement it backfires. Now he will just make those blunders while the world watches live
If Clinton breaks out the sax during the convention......
You didn't think he was going to speak did you? He's the musical guest!
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