Fucking brilliant. Only way it could have been better is if he'd equated coffee with apple pie.
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Fucking brilliant. Only way it could have been better is if he'd equated coffee with apple pie.
speculawyer
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I know . . . but why did New bring it up? I guess he may have said 'coffee' by accident and then realized the mistake & backtracked. I just wonder if it was another backhanded smack at Romney who Newt clearly doesn't like.
Oh it was full on properly thought out megatroll.
I'd like to point out that today started with the Romney camp arguing there has been no major events or evidence to support Romney falling further behind in the polls.
Now, it's ending with Romney asking for a truce with Obama on the issues he's been taking a beating on.
Things that make you go hmmm.
Now, it's ending with Romney asking for a truce with Obama on the issues he's been taking a beating on.
Things that make you go hmmm.
ClovingWestbrook
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I am still amazed that Romney actually is 'asking for a truce'. It's akin to a bully who picks on the wrong kid, kid fights back, and the bully asks him to be nice.
Huntsman would be crushing right now.
Had a clear specific topic everyone would rally around, tax reform, with a real plan already emerging early in the primaries. Moderate conservative, understands international relations (foreign ambassador to two countries, one of them being China), has a record as a job creator from his time as governor that he could really run on. No hot button issue that completely sinks him (Bain for example).
He was basically the perfect anti-Obama candidate as the base would be forced to accept his moderate stances on climate change and civil/moral topics because his fiscal policies make him a far better candidate than Obama. It wouldn't even be much more (if any) of a "pinch your nose and vote" hurdle for the base as voting for Romney is going to be.
speculawyer
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That is definitely the way Newt rolls.
Man . . . I'm constantly trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.
ClovingWestbrook
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What? Huntsman would be DOA even more than Romney because the base wouldn't be supporting him AT. ALL.
Aaron Strife
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Romney: "I don't want any of you to talk about my business record. Well, okay, we can talk about all the jobs I saved at Staples, but all those people we laid off, forgeddaboutit. Oh, and my taxes? We should be asking about JOHN KERRY'S WIFE'S taxes!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasZzenuYxI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rasZzenuYxI
NullPointer
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I usually don't like the whole "wimp" aspect that gets brought up during elections, mostly because it feeds right into the idea that presidents have to bomb some country back to the stone age just to show that they're tough enough for the job.
But in this case? Sheesh. If Romney wants to talk about the issues why doesn't he just go ahead and bring some up?
cartoon_soldier
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Rass. Poll shows Romney +2 in Iowa
Some Friday good news for Mitt
Some Friday good news for Mitt
You really think the base would vote for Obama or sit out on their chance to beat him? No, they'd vote for Hunstman just as much as Romney. Romney's stances and past make him toxic and completely confusing to independents. Hunstman, I think, would have won a lot of them over. Sure his base may not have been as riled, but it'd be made up for by Huntsman not fucking up every 3 seconds like Romney has been.
cartoon_soldier
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lol @ Breitbart
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/08/10/huntsman_to_speak_at_democratic_convention.html
Reports that Huntsman Jr. will speak at DNC Convention. I doubt it. If it happens though, holy shit. Primary candidate, immediately backed Romney...
Also, recommended reading by Karl Rove : http://freebeacon.com/the-killing/
http://politicalwire.com/archives/2012/08/10/huntsman_to_speak_at_democratic_convention.html
Reports that Huntsman Jr. will speak at DNC Convention. I doubt it. If it happens though, holy shit. Primary candidate, immediately backed Romney...
Also, recommended reading by Karl Rove : http://freebeacon.com/the-killing/
ClovingWestbrook
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.... no way...
"It will give Democrats more to attack me on." That's pretty much his whole defense.
NullPointer
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Maybe he's worried we'd find out there were some tax avoidance schemes he might have missed, and that would mean he lacks the wits for the job. You can't be president unless you do whatever it takes to avoid paying into society. Or so I've heard.
Sounds more like a cheerleader than a team captain. And now the Bush years make more sense.Norquist said:
Aaron Strife
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That'd be really cool actually if it sets up a run for Senator of Utah in four years.
TacticalFox88
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I still want to know what would've happened had the Cain train kept on going.
I really really hate Norquist. Like, I passionately hate that guy to the point that I think I would seriously consider punching him if I ever saw him in real life. Honestly I think I'll be happy when that idiotic troll finally croaks. Not that I actively wish death upon anyone, since I'm sure outside of politics he might be a great dude, but I just don't see any other way he'll stop completely plaguing our political system with his idiocy.
Dat pander.
cartoon_soldier
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Aaron Strife
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If he endorsed Obama he'd probably do so from the viewpoint that Romney is a fuck-up and would be disastrous for foreign policy. Huntsman's position with the Obama administration was as ambassador to China so it wouldn't be too hard a sell from him.
And if he ends up running for something as a Democrat one day, he can walk it back by saying "I thought this alternative sounded like a good idea, but we've seen the positive effects of Obamanomics and I'm convinced."
I'm not going to lie, when I read posts like this, I have to wonder why there aren't more Democrats in the world.
Let's not forget Newt's line of credit at Tiffany's
I'm certain we'd all be hearing cries for him to reveal what that was all about.
CNN and TIME suspend Fareed Zakaria for plagiarism
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/08/cnn-suspends-fareed-zakaria-for-plagiarism-131695.html?hp=l1_b2
http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2012/08/cnn-suspends-fareed-zakaria-for-plagiarism-131695.html?hp=l1_b2
That can't be real, can it?Well he already has it from the left and middle
it's real, Newsweek has troll covers all the time now since their business is tanking.
thezerofire
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that is a fucking terrible article. Obama's campaign propped up by millionaires and billionaires? fucking lol
it always amazes me how smart people can be so dumb
HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH. AWESOME. I just booted up my iPad Newsweek app, and yep. You're right.
The post actually more or less explains the core Republican strategy -- the only reason this guy identifies as a Republican is that he's pro-life. (And he "believes in the free enterprise system," as if Democrats don't.)
TacticalFox88
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How in the hell can any self respecting person still identify as Republican is beyond me. What he wrote was good and all, but the fact that he's too chikenshit to cut ties of being associated with a bunch of out of touch, selfish businessman leaves a lot to be desired
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
At this point I'm not even sure a majority of republicans in Congress want the Ryan budget.
cartoon_soldier
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Also, people keep forgetting Sen. Kelly Ayotte for VP candidate. She has a good outside chance now I think
Huntsman would be weird, but I fully expect Charlie Crist to speak at the convention.
el retorno
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Why are Dems so excited about Huntsman maybe running again? He's not liberal or even centrist. He's pretty far to the right. He's for the elimination of Capital Gains tax, lowering the top rate to 23 percent eliminating Alternative Minimum Tax.
He's just a little more sane on social issues.
Yea this is disappointing. Imagine this stuff goes on more than we see because of the turn around on these columns is so quick when responding to current events.
He's just a little more sane on social issues.
Yea this is disappointing. Imagine this stuff goes on more than we see because of the turn around on these columns is so quick when responding to current events.
I just read this detailed description of the DNC plans. It's going to be fucking brutal.
The "Real People" segments, the Social Contrast stuff, and then using Republican speakers to hammer Romney; awesome.
The "Real People" segments, the Social Contrast stuff, and then using Republican speakers to hammer Romney; awesome.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
Many many people vote on social issues first.
el retorno
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But how does that explain dems wanting him to run? He's not to the left of dems on those social issues and he's still behind on things like gay marriage and being pro-choice (this one I understand is not as black and white but I'm more referring to GAF who are overwhelmingly pro-choice).
Dems won't win every election. When they lose, I'd rather a reasonable Rep win than a crazy person.
AlteredBeast
Fork 'em, Sparky!
What guevara said. And also, a lot of dems are soft liberals who still might "cling to their guns and religions"
Aaron Strife
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He's much better on gay marriage than many Republicans and quite a few Democrats.
I'm sure if he did run again as a Democrat he would move to the left/center, but with him it wouldn't be as sharp a contrast between his old and new positions.
The main thing though is I'd want him to run as a Democrat for UT-SEN simply because he and Jim Matheson are the only "Democrats" who could win there. If you can run as a Democrat in Utah and win, you deserve props no matter how conservative you are.
el retorno
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He's not changed his positions. He's not a democrat. He's a republican whose had his base move from him. Where is there any motive to run as a democrat? He's not Arlen Specter who did not share many of the orthodox beliefs of his party (he supported Affirmative Action, voted against giving millionaires tax cuts in the 90s, somewhat pro-union, etc).
I'd rather have him running in the republican party than the current tea party crazies but why on earth would you cheer for him running as a dem. Are people that nostalgic for the GOP of 90s?
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