Dude, nobody is more expert on foreign banking and taxes than Willard 'Mitt' Romney. Also financial espionage and covert overseas bookkeeping.
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Dude, nobody is more expert on foreign banking and taxes than Willard 'Mitt' Romney. Also financial espionage and covert overseas bookkeeping.
Officerrob
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Those are beautiful
I hope some of you appreciate this. It's from Private Eye, a venerable British institution/satirical magazine.
Private Eye makes the Onion look like um, something less funny and mean. But still good.
airmangataosenai
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Political News Personality question: Wasn't Mary Katharine Ham originally billed as a liberal back when she was on Fox News? I realize Fox News Liberal is a bit of an epitet but guys like Juan Williams never just outright joined other conservative media ventures without also being billed as the liberal voice when he made the move, did he? Or am I mis-remembering her/mistaking her for someone else? Because immediately after Fox she went to TownHall, and then HotAir.
I'm fully expecting Obama to have some Medicare ads going in Florida this week. If he can do what he did with Romney's experience and paint Ryan as THE GUY WHO WANTS TO DESTROY MEDICARE right away, it won't matter what Romney's responses are. Counteracting those claims by saying "we're the ones taking this issue seriously" Isn't going to fly.
hydragonwarrior
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Lol how is that? Don't France and Italy hate him as a result of his Bain work?
Black Republican
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5mil raised off the Paul Ryan vp pick according to Team Romney
oh and looks like Palin wont be at the RNC convention, haha
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/12/us-palin-convention-idUSBRE87B0PV20120812
oh and looks like Palin wont be at the RNC convention, haha
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/12/us-palin-convention-idUSBRE87B0PV20120812
PhoenixDark
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Yup. There's a reason Ryan didn't go to Florida with Romney today
It can't be stressed enough that most senior citizens realize they're still alive, Obamacare hasn't killed their friends, and that they're paying less for prescription pills now. This is no longer 2010/2011 when people simply had no idea what was going to happen
So the right seems to be going further to the right, and I can't help but notice the left is doing the same thing.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/10/1118733/-The-Democratic-National-Committee-moves-its-money
Opening room for a third party?
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/08/10/1118733/-The-Democratic-National-Committee-moves-its-money
Opening room for a third party?
Mitt absolutely NEEDS Florida to win. Give him every other swing state and he still loses. Obama has been aggressive and capable of controlling the narrative for months, I don't expect that to stop now. Obama will get nasty if he has to. He's not going to let this opening pass him by.
TacticalFox88
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Mitt absolutely NEEDS Florida to win. Give him every other swing state and he still loses. Obama has been aggressive and capable of controlling the narrative for months, I don't expect that to stop now. Obama will get nasty if he has to. He's not going to let this opening pass him by.
Holy shit. I knew Mitt's path was extremely narrow but....O___O
Lol, Obama could just spend all his money in Florida and he'd still win.
Sorry Mittens. Your political ambitions end on November 6th
Black Republican
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Mitt absolutely NEEDS Florida to win. Give him every other swing state and he still loses. Obama has been aggressive and capable of controlling the narrative for months, I don't expect that to stop now. Obama will get nasty if he has to. He's not going to let this opening pass him by.
extra 1 ev if Obama can pull of Omaha again
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Mitt absolutely NEEDS Florida to win. Give him every other swing state and he still loses. Obama has been aggressive and capable of controlling the narrative for months, I don't expect that to stop now. Obama will get nasty if he has to. He's not going to let this opening pass him by.
Yeah, which really makes me puzzled as to why he chose Ryan.
The Technomancer
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Mitt absolutely NEEDS Florida to win. Give him every other swing state and he still loses. Obama has been aggressive and capable of controlling the narrative for months, I don't expect that to stop now. Obama will get nasty if he has to. He's not going to let this opening pass him by.
It really makes you wonder what they're thinking with the Ryan pick
Particle Physicist
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What are the odds of that happening again? Any recent polling in the district?
Mitt absolutely NEEDS Florida to win. Give him every other swing state and he still loses. Obama has been aggressive and capable of controlling the narrative for months, I don't expect that to stop now. Obama will get nasty if he has to. He's not going to let this opening pass him by.
PhoenixDark
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Republicans are claiming Ryan was picked weeks ago, but I see nothing to prove that's true. In fact, I'm seriously wondering whether they did any internal polling on Ryan's plan in Florida, NC, and other swing states.
Ohio republicans are bummed, and I'd imagine Florida republicans are even more bummed. Hopefully this means Alan West gets shit canned btw; that man should not be a United States representative.
Ohio republicans are bummed, and I'd imagine Florida republicans are even more bummed. Hopefully this means Alan West gets shit canned btw; that man should not be a United States representative.
Pretty sure it's likely R this time around. I heard that's why Romney stopped putting ad money into it; he's sure he's got it in the bag.
There's no real way to verify that he was picked a few weeks ago, so they likely came up with that story to make it seem like he wasn't caving to the overwhelming calls of conservatives everywhere.
I always wonder what the populace is like in these district that elect certified psychos (Bachmann, West, etc...)
You mean D?
The Technomancer
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I'm still fairly lukewarm on the idea that Obama has a significant chance at Florida though. I guess it'll come down to the poll numbers over the next month or so.
PhoenixDark
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Good point. It's basically tied right now; if we see any movement one way or the other in the next month, we'll know what's up. That being said, Obama's potential/ceiling are better there now than they were a week ago.
This is PoliGAF. We're more sarcastic than Britain.
Black Republican
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i'll cry with laughter if this happens, especially in this economy
http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=qNG
http://www.270towin.com/2012_election_predictions.php?mapid=qNG
Me too. This is the absolute best case scenario, I think. Unless Romney's taxes leak and he didn't pay any for a period of time, in which case who the hell knows what the map will look like.
speculawyer
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That image is awesome. And accurate.
metalslimer
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Even if Obama loses Florida that chart has him losing Ohio (LOL) and a few other states he will most likely carry. Mitt pretty much needs a perfect win to get to 270. Looking at this it's amazing how the electoral map is shifting to the point where it'll be impossible for a republican to win the presidency with their current strategy in about 10 years. I imagine if they lose this election you'll see a shit ton of support for dropping the electoral college.
It's also amazing how much of the country's area can go red and still lose the election.
It's also amazing how much of the country's area can go red and still lose the election.
empty vessel
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And also somewhat irrelevant, given that any attention to the deficit is a red herring intended to manipulate and distract.
Yeah, I don't expect Obama to lose Nevada, Iowa, or Ohio, I was just showing just how fucked the math is for Romney. Basically Obama only needs to win one or two swing states; Romney has to win next to all of them.
The Technomancer
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I also really hope people are overestimating how likely Ryan makes Wisconsin going red
Obama is not going to lose Wisconsin, either. I just made it red to further push the point home.
I asked this a million times before and none of you jerkbags ever responded.
Isn't there really one major master stroke argument that should destroy Romney/Ryan forever on medicare? And that argument being that if you give people the option of opting out of medicare to buy private insurance, won't that effect CURRENT RECIPIENTS because that means there's less people paying into the system?
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I believe that's how this whole medicare funding thing works. Shouldn't this be a slam dunk that every Obama subordinate should be shouting from the rooftops?
Isn't there really one major master stroke argument that should destroy Romney/Ryan forever on medicare? And that argument being that if you give people the option of opting out of medicare to buy private insurance, won't that effect CURRENT RECIPIENTS because that means there's less people paying into the system?
Forgive me if I'm mistaken, but I believe that's how this whole medicare funding thing works. Shouldn't this be a slam dunk that every Obama subordinate should be shouting from the rooftops?
You should have made Pennsylvania red too. It's gonna be super close this time.
Also:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm_6NVB3TR0&feature=youtu.be
That's where the faux comes in.
He wants to make taxes so low for those in the top bracket that they won't even need to use tax shelters.
Particle Physicist
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That shit is B-A-N-A-N-A-S!
For me, the short version is: their plan does nothing to curb the rising cost of healthcare. It just pushes it from the government to recipients. It's a pure balloon squeeze, and in the end it's seniors get squeezed along with it.
Remember this lovely ad about Medicare featuring Paul Ryan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U
The magic fairy dust of the free market will of course curb costs, duh.
Just like with social services; we don't need the government to provide them, the good will of the American people will result in them overwhelmingly donating to charities enough to offset the losses from welfare programs being destroyed!
TacticalFox88
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Holy shit, I never knew how large electoral college landslides were back in the day. Modern Presidential races don't come even close to Nixon, Reagan, Eisenhower, etc.
It wasn't a landslide. Complete and utter annihilation.
It wasn't a landslide. Complete and utter annihilation.
The Technomancer
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Exactly! Those kind of charities are so plentiful and able to provide for the needs of the people that that's why we never had to set up government programs for all of these services in the first place!
empty vessel
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Yep, that's exactly what it does. To curb health care costs, a buyer has to exert downward pressure on prices, which are currently being pushed upward by rent-seeking corporate entities taking advantage of the non-market that is human health.
But Ryan wants to eliminate tax loopholes like charitable deductions. But yeah you're right, I am sure billionaires will donate to charities when there's zero deductions.
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